Premade, yes. I do however imagine we need a few more reveals before they can base a TB solely on the Grand Tournament.
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Premade, yes. I do however imagine we need a few more reveals before they can base a TB solely on the Grand Tournament.
It's really just Mech decks that use Annoyotrons (or Hobgoblin deck) for the synergy. You don't see Hunters using that card.
Ebola paladins sometimes do as well. I suppose that's covered by "Hobgoblin deck." But yes, that's why it's a good example. It shows that a card being included in some rush/aggro decks does not magically transform the card in to an aggro card.
I use Dark Acolyte and Shade of Naxxramas in priest, though I'm only a mid-teens ranked player.
* and SSI: Agent in Rogue, though it's rarely played on the third turn. Fan of Knives, too.
toddhunter
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Quite correct and it is also extremely effective. There is nothing worse than lining up your trades to stabilise and then seeing an annoyotron come out to let them pour on the damage.
It also stands that just because face hunters do not run it, doesn't mean they shouldn't. People being too dumb to substitute a card into a deck because everybody else doesn't, is a different issue.
Officerrob
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They will ration them out very slowly and then just dump all the rest out the day before release for some unknown reason. I just don't get it. They should be putting out 4-5 cards a day and just be having people vote on the legendaries
That's what they did for GvG, right? Just dumped 60-70 cards simultaneously. Very strange.
Officerrob
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Yep, and going by the pace so far they are doing it again
Ok Acolyte is card draw. If you want to specify the cards more then yeah it doesn't control anything really, but all control decks require card draw to find their answers.
Warrior isn't punished as much as other classes if they miss a 3-drop or something because you can always gain life over your maximum with armor up. A new control 3-drop would make control warrior a lot better for sure.
Seeing all cards too early might make many hasty people think twice about buying those packs.
MonorailCat
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So far we have:
1) A new mechanic thats too slow to be used in constructed
2) A bunch of unplayable or mediocre cards
Expansion HYPE!
1) A new mechanic thats too slow to be used in constructed
2) A bunch of unplayable or mediocre cards
Expansion HYPE!
Seems two pretty good cards. The druid one is essentially upgrading your hero power to a 3 attack 1 armor, which is a really good hero power. The biggest problem with it is that i don't think that druid want to play 4 drops that don't stick, and it trade bad with piloted shredder. On the other hand, if you have 6 mana this make your hero power kill shredder, which is pretty good. 3 damage hero power in general seems really good since it kill so many relevant things and is a fast clock vs no taunts.
The other one is much better than a 6/6 for 5 (because of many reasons, mostly: 5 attack is the spot where u want to be, so a 5/5 and +1+1 is better than 6/6 in a vacuum, then there's the added versatility as pseudo-charge, better trading, more resilient against single target removals etc...), and a Mech, which mean that could easily cost 4 and have other bonuses (tinkertown!). Current mech decks are really all-in-ish, but they could be a bit less (think midrange hunter) with this card and something else. In a sense it's a bit sad how much better is this compared to Fel Reaver because of Fel Reaver 8 attack, and this is a common. I predict this to see play in mech shaman if that is still a deck after TGT, as well as possibly mech mage.
The other one is much better than a 6/6 for 5 (because of many reasons, mostly: 5 attack is the spot where u want to be, so a 5/5 and +1+1 is better than 6/6 in a vacuum, then there's the added versatility as pseudo-charge, better trading, more resilient against single target removals etc...), and a Mech, which mean that could easily cost 4 and have other bonuses (tinkertown!). Current mech decks are really all-in-ish, but they could be a bit less (think midrange hunter) with this card and something else. In a sense it's a bit sad how much better is this compared to Fel Reaver because of Fel Reaver 8 attack, and this is a common. I predict this to see play in mech shaman if that is still a deck after TGT, as well as possibly mech mage.
By the time you have 6 mana though, you have much better options.
Doesn't seem viable to me
Triggers on inspire so you'd have to play it on 6 to do that. It's actually decent value, 4-drop plus free Claw I guess, but the stats don't really fit Druid's game plan. Honestly if it wasn't for Shredder this could see play.
Finally some good cards. The druid card is pretty amazing especially when you factor in the changes to hero powers in the latest set. Great stats too.
Clockwork Knight is another solid mech card needed after mech has fallen off a bit. Great 5 drop on its own with a very selective Shattered Sun Cleric effect.
Clockwork Knight is another solid mech card needed after mech has fallen off a bit. Great 5 drop on its own with a very selective Shattered Sun Cleric effect.
yeah and that totem card for shaman. everything else is crap
The Druid-card is pretty beastly for Arena, considering you often drop the same amount of stats in a Tallstrider or Brewmaster on an empty board. You don't even need to get hero power value for it to be decent, and if you get it behind a Druid of the Claw the next turn you can get some serious value out of hero powering + 4-drop on turn 6.
Might even have to draft Savagery again*
I think it will see play in constructed as well because a 4 mana 5 attack creature is just what druid needs after being so heavily defense oriented. With lock and load Ancient of War becomes trash tier once again so a more offense oriented druid is needed.
You guys are a bunch of naysayers. I remember people shitting on Antique Healbot when it first came out too.
Deadceptor
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2 Aldors, 2 Spider Tanks and 1 BGH in my Control Pally.
2 Blademasters, 2 Shadow Word: Deaths and 1 Acolyte in control Priest. Been working great so far.
Trigger_happy
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Savage combatant seems like a very good arena card... but they better introduce some decent beast synergy for this card to be playable in constructed, 5/4 stat distribution isn't good at all in this meta.
Randomizer123454444
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I respectfully disagree about the priest card! It can roll out of control very fast if you let it be.
- Drop Holy Champion for 4 mana. Heal if you can. 3/5 or 5/5
- Next turn: Light of the Naaru x2, Heal hero power: 9/5 or 11/5 Holy Champion + 5/2 warden + 3/2 warden. Or Holy nova, or holy fire or do some circle of healing trickery
It's a good card IMO. Or at least playable.
I really like the beast. Nothing spectacular or game breaking like Shredder, but amazing for arena and another decent beast for those wanting to live the beast-druid dream.
Well it's the best mode in the game so...
Well it's the best mode in the game so...
This is also true.
Clockwork Knight could be good if you have mechwarpers alive. Maybe it could replace Yeti, but people don't seem to be running that these days, other than tempo mages.
For mech mage, 5 drop is contested by Azure Drake and Loatheb, you really need card draw to keep going and Loatheb does a lot more to protect your board than this card ever can. Still maybe this could have a place. It could be really great early play with mechwarpers, it's just that those are the first to die so it's not going to happen often.
There is Fel Reaver too, which you would rather play that earlier than this. MAybe it could replace it as Reaver has a huge risk attached to it and this one is a common card that more people can have/craft.
For mech shaman, it could be good again. Similar issues stand there as well. Maybe I feel differently about this one later, doesn't seem very exciting right now.
For mech mage, 5 drop is contested by Azure Drake and Loatheb, you really need card draw to keep going and Loatheb does a lot more to protect your board than this card ever can. Still maybe this could have a place. It could be really great early play with mechwarpers, it's just that those are the first to die so it's not going to happen often.
There is Fel Reaver too, which you would rather play that earlier than this. MAybe it could replace it as Reaver has a huge risk attached to it and this one is a common card that more people can have/craft.
For mech shaman, it could be good again. Similar issues stand there as well. Maybe I feel differently about this one later, doesn't seem very exciting right now.
toddhunter
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That is a pure arena card. You wouldn't bother in constructed, cheaper mechs are already better.
Well... I was thinking recently that Blizzard has been ignoring Mechs after GVG and it looked as if they were just pumping out minion types/mechanics and then forgetting about them but at least they're continuing to develop Mechs, somewhat.
edit: just realized from a comment on r/hearthstone, Savage Combatant is a buff to Webspinner and Hunter. 4 damage hero power...
edit: just realized from a comment on r/hearthstone, Savage Combatant is a buff to Webspinner and Hunter. 4 damage hero power...
Princess Carl
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These cards are seriously making me hesitate on this expansion.
Minsc
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Yeah, it should be able to I think, it's a normal playable Beast card... if you can get those 9/7 druid beasts that reshuffle from it...
And don't forget about the unstable portal buff too... Mage gets to direct 3 damage for 2 mana, which is not bad either.
Initially I was thinking (well for a few seconds anyway), maybe I'd pre-order the expansion when they announced the pre-order deal, but these cards they're revealing... I'm not feeling them at all. I see no reason for me to spend any money on such lackluster cards. The Inspire idea is neat, but it seems like they didn't commit themselves to it in a way it'd be relevant in an aggro meta such as ranked play.
Well it's a rare occurrance and it doesn't buff hunters hero power directly of course.
We haven't seen shit yet though. And we already have an incredibly potent inspire buff with Trueheart. I can see the meta slowing down if the inspire cards offer good enough sustain/value so that you can safely play 2 healbots, 2 belcher and other anti-aggro cards while still being able to outlast control decks. Like aggro decks aren't the whole problem, you can easily tech your deck to win 90% of the aggro matchups but then you lose to other control decks because you don't have enough value in your cards. Inspire might change that completely since the mechanic generates free value indefinitely.
I'm still hyped as fuck! Trueheart might be the first thing I craft.
At the end of the day GvG was more than alright, it'd be a huge bummer if they fucked up the second expansion. It's still too early for doom and gloom, does anyone have a list of GvG cards by release order though? I'm wondering if there had been any bombs in the first 30-ish GvG cards or if it was a similar situation to now.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/718-goblins-vs-gnomes-61-new-cards-upcoming-balance
Quick google result. Like looking at that list, most cards looked like trash and some were only identified as good post release. People forget how many filler cards there were.
Princess Carl
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Fair enough, about 17 good cards from that list.
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