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[bjaelke]

Only 4 Warlock cards left and one of them is bound to be some kind of discard mechanic. I almost feel sorry for that class.

 

[veryslowhand]

So, the rest of the set revealed today, don't know if I can handle it

 

[Apathy]

I did about 6 games as a Rogue and I won 5 of them. Each time I picked minions early to establish a board, which I usually did before my opponents, and then as long as I had a couple minions I started to pick spells. Spells are usually reactive so it is generally pointless to pick them early on. You don't know what you need to react to so you just end up picking whatever seems value. Which might not be what you need.

Knowing the cards is like 10% of all these brawls, 90% is being lucky out of your ass. To say that these brawls require any large amount of skill is so dumb when you're at the mercy of the discover

 

[Dahbomb]

I need Warlock to have a good early game single target removal and a solid 4 drop. That's all I want man.

 

[georly]

I did about 6 games as a Rogue and I won 5 of them. Each time I picked minions early to establish a board, which I usually did before my opponents, and then as long as I had a couple minions I started to pick spells. Spells are usually reactive so it is generally pointless to pick them early on. You don't know what you need to react to so you just end up picking whatever seems value. Which might not be what you need.

This is exactly how I played and I won 3 of 3 last night. I'll play again tomorrow when my dailies refresh.

Knowing the cards is like 10% of all these brawls, 90% is being lucky out of your ass. To say that these brawls require any large amount of skill is so dumb when you're at the mercy of the discover

I don't think it requires A LOT of skill, just some best practices and card awareness. Stuff that a good portion of brawl players might not have.

 

[Dahbomb]

Knowing the cards is like 10% of all these brawls, 90% is being lucky out of your ass. To say that these brawls require any large amount of skill is so dumb when you're at the mercy of the discover

Nah experienced players have a huge edge in this Brawl. Just like experienced players have huge advantage in Arena. Though in Raven Idol Brawl that is more of the case because you are deciding yourself whether you want a minion or a spell and that decision takes a lot into consideration.

And unlike Arena you can't go on Heartharena to have a site draft for you, you have to draft on the spot with this Brawl. Only issue is that everyone should just pick Mage and just try to force Discover Flamewaker/Apprentice then ball out of control. The Idols shouldn't be counted as spells in this Brawl or hell even as cards being played because it gives certain classes/cards an unfair advantage.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

This brawl isn't as luck based as the Esportal one, knowing when to look for spells or minions(or when to stop looking and just play something) is pretty important.

 

[fertygo]

You dont need to panic when opponent pull legendary ass minion. Its gonna backfire if try to outdraw something better.
If ýou still don't find answer tho. gg

 

[QFNS]

I suspect the stream will show a decent part of the set but not everything. Then they release the infodump of all the cards afterwards. You would think that Blizzard would choose the coolest and most interesting cards to reveal piecemeal and then just have a bunch of OK stuff later. However, knowing them they messed that up and there will be a couple pretty powerful and/or cool cards in the infodump (hoping!)

 

[Apathy]

Nah experienced players have a huge edge in this Brawl. Just like experienced players have huge advantage in Arena. Though in Raven Idol Brawl that is more of the case because you are deciding yourself whether you want a minion or a spell and that decision takes a lot into consideration.

And unlike Arena you can't go on Heartharena to have a site draft for you, you have to draft on the spot with this Brawl. Only issue is that everyone should just pick Mage and just try to force Discover Flamewaker/Apprentice then ball out of control. The Idols shouldn't be counted as spells in this Brawl or hell even as cards being played because it gives certain classes/cards an unfair advantage.

Of course an experience d player would know "hey don't start with spells, you need board pressence" or "don't go with a deathwing on first idol". Beyond first time players that is basic stuff (they are the ones building all taunt decks at level 25). You are still at the mercy at discover if you spend 4 turns and can't get anything under a 6 to play. The same way when you pick a spell to try and get rid of something later on you're at the mercy of whether you actually get a spell that would be useful instead of say a flare.

 

[bunbun777]

I did 6 games with mage won 5 of them. Sorcerers apprentice did some work. Seems like legendaries don't stop after turn 6.

 

[bjaelke]

I suspect the stream will show a decent part of the set but not everything. Then they release the infodump of all the cards afterwards. You would think that Blizzard would choose the coolest and most interesting cards to reveal piecemeal and then just have a bunch of OK stuff later. However, knowing them they messed that up and there will be a couple pretty powerful and/or cool cards in the infodump (hoping!)

Mysterious Challenger was revealed on Facebook as part of the post-stream TGT dump.

 

[Nirolak]

Kibler on card nerfs

He seems happy with the BGH nerf as the card's biggest opponent.

I don't think I've seen any streamers talk about the nerf not being enough.

 

[georly]

He seems happy with the BGH nerf as the card's biggest opponent.

I don't think I've seen any streamers talk about the nerf not being enough.

Makes it not auto-include, which is what the nerfing was mainly about. As he says, it now may mean OTHER cards might be auto-include in certain deck types (name dropping abusive as the leper gnome potential replacement), but at least these will still see SOME play in specific decks.

The rest of the nerfs were basically 'to not limit card design' which is fine. Kills old decks dead, but you have to hope blizz will fill the gap with other stuff.

 

[Apathy]

I was able to get a gigantic bolvar and my opponent couldn't find a hex

Summoning stone + bolvar in this combo is just nuts, you just gotta get lucky that they can't find removal

 

[mjc]

Sorry if it's been asked, what time is the stream today? (And is it on Twitch?)

 

[bjaelke]

Sorry if it's been asked, what time is the stream today? (And is it on Twitch?)

Yes, one hour from now.

 

[georly]

Yes, one hour from now.

Wish they'd stream on youtube, can't twitch at work ;_;

 

[Apathy]

Sorry if it's been asked, what time is the stream today? (And is it on Twitch?)

Should be on here https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone

10 am pacific/1pm eastern, I don't know euro times


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Merps and Adwcta posted on reddit that they moved their spreedsheet to an actual website now, http://thelightforge.com/TierList

I was using the list from heartharena, not sure how big a difference that would make.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

He seems happy with the BGH nerf as the card's biggest opponent.

I don't think I've seen any streamers talk about the nerf not being enough.

It's only "not enough" if you want the card to be nuked.

Also, now there's two 5 mana 4/2 dwarves with guns, that's even more confusing than 18 deck slots.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Only 4 Warlock cards left and one of them is bound to be some kind of discard mechanic. I almost feel sorry for that class.

Feel bad for the class that consistently has a powerful deck throughout nearly any and every meta the last 2 years?

 

[Fersis]

Feel bad for the class that consistently has a powerful deck throughout nearly any and every meta the last 2 years?

lol yeah
I think that with Standard and the Nerfs Blizz is lookin' to people to try new stuff.
Maybe we'll see some cool new stuff today :0

 

[Pooya]

Warlock is a complete class, they will always find a way and the spells they need are all in basic/classic. Good board clears and while shadowbolt is worse than darkbomb it's still direct damage removal they can play. Any good neutral minion they can play. Twilight drake and mountain giant are pretty much warlock cards. Molten was too and that will hurt but they can live. What hurts the most is the lack of healbot. If you're going to play new cards like cho'gall they would need more heals. I don't think Reno is as viable now with a lot less good cards to play.

 

[coolasj19]

So is mass card reveal gonna be in the form of a card dump or a stream? I'm at work so I would much much much rather just a gif dump.

edit. Haha. We broke for lunch. Stream here I go!

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Stream in 5 minutes

 

[ViviOggi]

Strim starting in 5 min https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone

Get on that GAF twitch chat

 

[georly]

Strim starting in 5 min https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone

Get on that GAF twitch chat

Sigh, wish someone would re-stream on youtube or something since blizz won't :/

 

[inky]

Feel bad for the class that consistently has a powerful deck throughout nearly any and every meta the last 2 years?

Indeed. Everyone else has had ups and down, but Warlock has been consistently solid throughout the whole history of HS. Moltens might be dead, but Handlock and other variations will keep on.

I think historically, Rogue is the class that has been picked on the most.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Strim starting in 5 min https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone

Get on that GAF twitch chat

We have a GAF Twitch chat? Someone invite me: LegendCobra.

 

[Apathy]

hold on to your butts, it begins

 

[Ladekabel]

BBrode almost gave me a heartattack.

 

[ViviOggi]

We have a GAF Twitch chat? Someone invite me: LegendCobra.

sent

BBrode almost gave me a heartattack.

4Head

 

[Apathy]

wow those priest cards, ok, i feel better

sorry is gone replaced with wow

 

[QFNS]

Haha Removed the Sorry emote? BM NERF IS REAL

 

[Emerson]

jesus these new cards are all solid

 

[squidyj]

yogg saron hype.

 

[georly]

wow those priest cards, ok, i feel better

sorry is gone replaced with wow

Haha Removed the Sorry emote? BM NERF IS REAL

wat

not gonna lie, Wow has way way way more BM potential, lol.

"Wow, you did THAT!?"

I need screenshots, stat ;_;

I cant watchhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[thekillermuffin]

I'm loving every card already on this stream. God, so hyped for Tuesday.

 

[Xamtheking]

CAN I GET SOME PICTURES

 

[Apathy]

I would watch a frodan + brode show in a heartbeat

Holy shit blade of cthun. Kill an minion adds it's damage to cthun

 

[thekillermuffin]

CAN I GET SOME PICTURES

Great live updates of pictures here: http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1374-whispers-of-the-old-gods-live-event-live-updates

 

[Emerson]

Holy shit that rogue epic lol

 

[Schnauzer]

I'm going to be stubborn and try to get dragon priest to work in standard. I do like these new priest cards though. I just love the concept behind dragon priest.

In all honestly, I doubt I'm going to be able to get it to become viable and will have end up changing to a Paladin Dragon Reno deck.

Luckily the nerfs don't hurt the decks I play besides demon lock, which loses what makes it great anyway.

 

[ricelord]

SUPER BGH

 

[LyleLanley]

Holy shit that rogue epic lol

Yeah, that's crazy.

 

[Owzers]

Blade of C'thun....was that rogue exclusive? Wow, 9 cost minion that destroys a minion and adds their atk to C'thun.

I feel like there are going to be so many things i dislike about the new meta Still goes back to aggro shaman though.

 

[f0lken]

Blade of Chtun is pretty good even if is a little slow

 

[squidyj]

assassinate with a 4/4 body and buffs c'thun.

5 mana for assassinate, 3.5 mana 4/4 0.5 mana c'thun buff?

 

[Pooya]

C'thun rogue and priest. C'thun looks like to be the standard, the support cards are too stupid not to play.

Priest without lightbomb looks so bad. lol

 

[georly]

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1374-whispers-of-the-old-gods-live-event-live-updates

embedding here for people just tuning in.

• No more Sorry emote
• You will get a quest to complete two games in Standard which rewards you with 5 free old god packs
• You will get another quest to complete seven games in Standard which rewards you with yet another 5 free old gods packs.

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Rogue

Warrior

Druid

Hunter

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Shaman

Mage

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