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EDIT: couldn't even say thanks, that was a damn interesting game and I think I threw it on the last turns. thanks.
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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added you
EDIT: couldn't even say thanks, that was a damn interesting game and I think I threw it on the last turns. thanks.
Acerac
Banned
Most classes actually have answers that you could play instead of being salty about losing, but you do you.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Good game. Could you edit out my username in your quote? Thanks.
I was just referencing one game where an opponent got a perfect draw. I only BM if BM'ed first.
Well idk about most classes. Not only that but the chances of any class having an answer to that on turn 2 is pretty darn slim.
Keyser Soze
Member
If you are going into Turn 3 of their Turn 2, or have the coin, there are lots of choices
Druid - Naturalize
Hunter - Hunter's Mark (you should have a minion on board on T2 if you are a Hunter), Adapt Poison, Freezing Trap, Misdirection (for fun!)
Mage - Frostbolt (to stall), Mirror Image (same), Glyph into Meteor after stalling? Same with Vaporize and Polymorph
Pali - Eye for an Eye, Noble Sacrifice and other 1 Mana Secrets can be nabbed from a 2 Mana Hydrologist to annoy, Aldor Peacekeeper helps
Priest - Silence I guess. Shadow Word: Death
Rouge - Sap to stall the buff nonsense, then get to Turn 5 will the likes of Vilespine Slayer
Shaman - Tech in a Earth Shock , Devlove, Hex
Warlock - PLAY RENOUNCE DARKNESS AND HOPE
Warrior - Something small and Execute or build a Taunt Wall
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Hmm what could you have done differently? At the end there, I was just cycling Jade Idols and you were near fatigue yourself. I assume your hand had a second DrakOp, Twilight, Netherspite, a Dragonfire? I had both Feral Rages and an Earthern Scales in my hand too.
Guess I had to mention that I was more talking about decks that people actually play. There's no point discussing hypothetical responses imo. Naturalize is trash, trap hunter is bad at the moment but curving into razormaw poison is a good answer, mage could handle it, paladin with aldor, priest with death, rogue's don't play sap in favor of vilespines, shaman devolve, warlock (lol), warrior wouldn't have a turn 1 minion so a 2 card combo and coin is needed or they die.
Not to mention none of these responses are even close to viable options for mulligan keeps (except hunter's)so the chances of actually having these responses is less than 6% for 1 card and way way less than that for 2 card combos.
You have every right to feel bad when a priest has that opener because in 95% of cases it wins the game and if it doesn't you still have tempo and it wasn't that big of an investment because you drew 2 cards.
SonicXtreme
Member
they're still good in wild, just kinda slow? there was def a reno dragon priest in the wild championships iirc
BananasWithGuns
Member
This game is fucking terrible.
Now we must all ask ourselves, what evil secrets is Lone_Prodigy hiding? Are they a legend-tier streamer? Do they BM opponents despite this post? Or do they merely not want hacked?
Find out NEXT TIME.
This game is fucking terrible.
Primordial into primordial into primordial into mirror image? What bullshit RNG is that? I'm super lucky if I get mana wyrm and primordial as starting hand and on second turn primordial into primordial.
slightconfuse
Banned
has blizzard explained why explained why secret activate when you kill mad scientist?
Assuming you're talking about the interaction with battlecries that kill Mad Scientist?
Hearthstone occurs in phases, and whenever you play a minion, the following sequence of phases occurs. On Play Phase -> Battlecry Phrase -> After Play Phase. The After Play Phase exists because it makes more sense for some cards to check conditions after the battlecry occurs. For example, Mirror Entity triggers in the After Play Phase so that identical minions are summoned from minions with battlecries that change stats. For example, when you play Twilight Drake, Mirror Entity creates a 4/x instead of a 4/1.
The key is that Hearthstone processes minion deaths at the end of every single phase. So here's how that sequence plays out.
On Play Phase -> You Play Fire Elemental
Battlecry Phase -> Fire Elemental deals damage to Mad Scientist, kills it
-----Death Processing -> Mirror Entity enters play
After Play Phase -> Mirror Entity checks condition, notices that you played Fire Elemental at the beginning of the sequence and triggers.
The trick is to run 'em out of Shadow Word: Deaths and make a 30+damage board that can't be removed with dragonfire potion. EZ GG NO RE.
(The *only* reason I'm even playing Jade Druid this season is I got so sick of Priests--I was seeing them in 40%+ of my matches, even though vSS says I should have only been seeing them 12% or so).
Do priests normally build lots of AOE? I've seen two in a row now, they seem to include the following:
2x holy nova
1-2 dragonfire
1-2 wild pyromancer
1-2 primordial drake
shadow visions to discover more copies of any of the above
Also just for fun, against my shaman deck an enemy priest discovered 3 different jade cards (one of them Aya, naturally) when my deck only had 5-6. That's something like 0.1% odds if I'm doing the math right.
2x holy nova
1-2 dragonfire
1-2 wild pyromancer
1-2 primordial drake
shadow visions to discover more copies of any of the above
Also just for fun, against my shaman deck an enemy priest discovered 3 different jade cards (one of them Aya, naturally) when my deck only had 5-6. That's something like 0.1% odds if I'm doing the math right.
Meanwhile all the Priest needs to do is go second and get six specific cards by turn 3.
Many priests include those cards because they're viable, however.
I think the point was that many of the responses aren't viable.
Mad scientist killed with a spell that pulls cat trick triggers cat trick. That will never not be stupid.
The trick is to run 'em out of Shadow Word: Deaths and make a 30+damage board that can't be removed with dragonfire potion. EZ GG NO RE.
(The *only* reason I'm even playing Jade Druid this season is I got so sick of Priests--I was seeing them in 40%+ of my matches, even though vSS says I should have only been seeing them 12% or so).
Still wasn't enough to get him to zero.
The only reason I went for so many damage spells is because I don't like and I don't trust priest. Hate them with a passion.
I had a deathwing on hand, a dragonfire, a mind control and a shadow madness, I'm pretty sure I could have gotten rid of the board as well as doing some serious damage if it wasn't for the taunts lol.
In any case, I was in a lost game since you would just override me with jades.
I also need to play jade druid better.
Still wasn't enough to get him to zero.
The only reason I went for so many damage spells is because I don't like and I don't trust priest. Hate them with a passion.
why you not get rid of the priest of the feast?
its suck to waste damage but you had to, and since apparently that is kazakus priest, he only had 1.
The sequence is pretty much the same with an On Play -> Spell phase -> After Spell Phase.
And yeah, I agree. I think it could be fixed with a simple rule change. If a secret is put into play it should be inert until the end of the sequence. Secrets are meant to be played around.
Yeah, but it does happen more often than you think, they are looking for 4/6 of those cards in the mulligan. Even so, the fact that it is very unlikely makes it feel even worse when it happens to you.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I'm just going to do all my quests tonight regardless of gold amount since someone tested changing their pc's clock to Wednesday and the double gold bonus was not showing in the client.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
when you go from having to win 1 to having to win 3 to rank up sucks so much.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
I forgot how easy it is to cheese out wins in wild with face hunter.
Karsticles
Member
Reno Mage pisses me off. Every other Reno deck has to make an intelligent decision about when to use Reno, and how low one's health can go before having to drop him. Reno Mage just waits for Ice Block to proc.
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
Three wins this morning on Miracle Rogue has put me in a really good mood. It feels good to have a deck that feels like it can adapt to many situations. I know gunther mage would probably be more reliable, but I don't like the uninteractive nature of how it plays.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Yogg still breaking hearts 2K17
We should know soon, Asia rolls over to Wednesday in a couple of hours. I went ahead and cleared all my quests on Asia this morning just in case.
SonicXtreme
Member
last 7 games of wild ladder for the night, faced 7 different classes, none of them were shaman or mage. #blessedformat
that is true, I forgot the timezones.
at what time is the change? I also suppose the brawl starts in some hours too?
Brawl is later in Asia and EU than NA. (A point of contention for those regions). It's Wednesday on Asia server and double gold is still live. Maybe it's going to be live until the new Tavern Brawl?
that has been the speculation, that double quests will go off the moment the frost festival takes over with the tavern brawl.
Yes. When people set their clocks forward, their current quests didn't have the bonus anymore. Clear your quests.
Fuck, is there any good hunter deck to clear quests?
The less time-consuming method: If it's the 5-win quest, just ask a friend to let you win 5 games, and help them with a quest (I'm sure one of us can help you if you don't know anyone). If it's the 50-card quest I assume you wouldn't ask because you don't have to win.
If it's not the 5-win quest, or the 50-card quest, reroll.
Probably, but why risk it?
I already rerolled, is the 3 wins quest
because I could reroll my 80g quest for a 100g or 120g, it's risky, I know... I'm not sure I should be doing it.