Karsticles
Member
As soon as they stop being lazy, for sure!
Just like the Overwatch team will stop being incompetent when they gain competency (but they aren't lazy).
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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Just like the Overwatch team will stop being incompetent when they gain competency (but they aren't lazy).
well toast finished his warlock one with a treachery majordomo lethal
Keyser Soze
Member
I was going to try and unlock the hero tonight, but I just did Priest and Druid and I am already tired. I must go on!
Ironically the best team at Blizzard is the one supporting HOTS.
They release content and new heroes fast and more importantly balance fix swiftly. They push out balance changes before most of the active community is even aware of a problem and the game is decently balanced for a MOBA. They are also on point with communication since they release patches often, they have to communicate as well.
As far as HS goes, it's not a matter of competency or lazyness, it's a matter of ambition. The reason why we don't have more modes or content aside from cards is that they probably don't want the game to become a behemoth on phones and become unwieldy too fast. As far as balancing goes, Blizzard has even admitted it is a problem but they haven't delivered on faster patches because the tech isn't there yet. We have been waiting on this tech for quite a while. My guess is that they don't have an efficient fix to this problem yet.
They release content and new heroes fast and more importantly balance fix swiftly. They push out balance changes before most of the active community is even aware of a problem and the game is decently balanced for a MOBA. They are also on point with communication since they release patches often, they have to communicate as well.
As far as HS goes, it's not a matter of competency or lazyness, it's a matter of ambition. The reason why we don't have more modes or content aside from cards is that they probably don't want the game to become a behemoth on phones and become unwieldy too fast. As far as balancing goes, Blizzard has even admitted it is a problem but they haven't delivered on faster patches because the tech isn't there yet. We have been waiting on this tech for quite a while. My guess is that they don't have an efficient fix to this problem yet.
T
thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
For the hunter one, I added in only barnes, y'saarj, and ragnaros, the same three minions I run on ladder. On my second try, turn 4 barnes summoned y'saarj, and then Ragnoros, and then y'saarj. Killed him turn 6 on a 50/50 shot. The deathknight wasn't needed at all, though it might have been if rag missed.
Even a 1/1 rag is fine for establishing early board control or doing some repeated 8 damage to face if you don't want to restart too much, which is why I personally include it in my ladder deck, though you might run out of gas without the deathknight for this boss unless you get y'saarj.
Even a 1/1 rag is fine for establishing early board control or doing some repeated 8 damage to face if you don't want to restart too much, which is why I personally include it in my ladder deck, though you might run out of gas without the deathknight for this boss unless you get y'saarj.
Does the ending change if you don't use the deathknight?
Karsticles
Member
I don't believe that excuse for a second.
Agreed on HotS. Their team is fantastic. Very tuned into the player base and meta, usually make good balance changes, release interesting content regularly, and have fantastic communication.
The Overwatch team is the worst. They have a goldmine game but look at character viability:
https://www.overbuff.com/blobs/1mnIBzmXX1z.jpg
How fucking incompetent do you have to be for half of your characters to see ZERO competitive play in a first-person shooter? Most of those characters have never seen competitive play on a regular basis, even though the game gets balance patches about as often as HotS. Imagine how bad you would have to be at game balance to patch a game every month or so and most of the characters are still not viable. Meanwhile your genius team straight-up deletes a character because "1HKOs don't belong in Overwatch", and then immediately after you add a character who 1HKOs everyone.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Wait since when did Reinhardt hit a 0% usage rate? Did they nerf him?
They put in a QoL change for Winston to make his cooldowns come up more often and accidentally turned the pro metagame into "ALL DIVE ALL THE TIME"
May I ask, which decks you used. So far I've only beaten the litch with warlock and shaman. This adventure is tiresome
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Karsticles
Member
WTF. So every class gets a penalty...but the Lich King just removes the ability for Priest players to emote?
rofl
It's like Blizzard knows!
rofl
It's like Blizzard knows!
Which excuse, the one about needing better tech to patch? Because that is actually a real one, they cannot actually balance patch cards in time because it's not a hot fix, they have to release a full patch. However, they can hotfix the number value of card frequency in Arena which is why they were quickly able to reduce frequency of Vicious Fledgling in Arena. And you know they care way more about Standard balancing than Arena balancing.
Brode showed a video of him tweaking numbers and values on a card in HS and it's like a 5 minute process. This is not a case of incompetency or lazyness but rather the tech not being efficient enough to deliver the changes via hotfixes. Now you can say that they are lazy/incompetent that such tech should've been in the game a long time ago but Blizzard made the game with card balancing in mind ie. metas develop over a longer period of time. Of course they didn't account for the ease of access to cards, online resources and the big community (not to mention the inherent simplicity of HS and in its mechanics) which results in the meta getting figured out really quickly so now they have to go back and change their tech to accommodate quicker balance changes.
Karsticles
Member
No way does it take months to change the numbers on a card.
hypersheep
Member
Managed to beat Paladin by turning the Lich King into Majordomo.
Beat Priest with Barnes cheese that pulled Y'shaarj and smashed his face in.
Warlock I used a Renolock.
Haven't tried out the rest, probably attempt a few more tomorrow.
Beat Priest with Barnes cheese that pulled Y'shaarj and smashed his face in.
Warlock I used a Renolock.
Haven't tried out the rest, probably attempt a few more tomorrow.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Who voices DK Malfurion?
HIs 'Cycle of Decay' emote sounds very Martin Sheenish.(I know he voices Nozdarmu..)
HIs 'Cycle of Decay' emote sounds very Martin Sheenish.(I know he voices Nozdarmu..)
Doesn't companies have to receive approvals from google and apple to release patches? Hots doesn't have the same problem than hearthstone and overwatch since that game is only avaliable on battle.net
Also I guess that changing could bring bugs too. plus they still have to playtest some of the changes to avoid a "heart of the card" situation again.
Also I guess that changing could bring bugs too. plus they still have to playtest some of the changes to avoid a "heart of the card" situation again.
Cards moving to the HOF from Classic. They credited the dust value to players.
No it's not from that, people are mentioning it on the subreddit too
What deck did you use for shaman?
mysteriousmage09
Member
These Lich King battles are beyond stupid. Forced into singular play styles with obscene rng. The amount of instant restarts alone just to have an attempt makes this shit even terrible.
slightconfuse
Banned
Got the easy ones out of the way(druid, warlock)
Thinking about doing pally or priest next
Thinking about doing pally or priest next
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Dear Blizzard please give me 2k dust
Druid is super easy.
Just got it as well. So what is the dust from? Hmmmm what to craft?
The Last One
Member
I just got 2000 of dust when I opened the game.
Why?
Why?
evolve works fine. just play all the eggs. It's very straight forward.
The Last One
Member
I remember this, but why I'm just getting it now? It kinda makes no sense. But oh well, I'm happy anyway.
I got 2k dust on Asia but nothing on EU or NA.
Didn't get any dust on any accounts the last time they gave out 2k dust (which was for a bug where people either didn't get an epic or a legendary they should have when pity timers were accidentally reset, 2000 being enough dust to craft one of each.)
I crafted DK Malfurion on Asia and I'm saving the rest of the dust for a rainy day. I would have rather gotten the dust on my main account but whatever, I guess.
Didn't get any dust on any accounts the last time they gave out 2k dust (which was for a bug where people either didn't get an epic or a legendary they should have when pity timers were accidentally reset, 2000 being enough dust to craft one of each.)
I crafted DK Malfurion on Asia and I'm saving the rest of the dust for a rainy day. I would have rather gotten the dust on my main account but whatever, I guess.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
lost the first game to black knight and bunch of AMS and bonemares for smorc. Didn't help that Malf was the bottommost card.
I did it!
found this hunter deck on reddit. don't need Barnes. Restart until have alleycat and hyena. It was way easier than I thought
AAECAYoWAA+NAaQCqAK1A4cEyQS7BZcIxQjbCYEK6asC6rsCjsMC180CAA==
Easy paladin list with majordomo. Murloc list is so hard to win with. This is better.
AAEBAYsWBOkP6RGdFYW4Ag1G3AP0Bc8G1gbtD+IR2a4Cu68Cs7sCuMcC2McC5csCAA==
The rest are straightforward, many things work.
Man, that was fun. I enjoyed it a lot. Best pve content yet.
found this hunter deck on reddit. don't need Barnes. Restart until have alleycat and hyena. It was way easier than I thought
AAECAYoWAA+NAaQCqAK1A4cEyQS7BZcIxQjbCYEK6asC6rsCjsMC180CAA==
Easy paladin list with majordomo. Murloc list is so hard to win with. This is better.
AAEBAYsWBOkP6RGdFYW4Ag1G3AP0Bc8G1gbtD+IR2a4Cu68Cs7sCuMcC2McC5csCAA==
The rest are straightforward, many things work.
Man, that was fun. I enjoyed it a lot. Best pve content yet.
It doesn't take months to change numbers on a card. It takes months to prepare a patch for multiple consoles (iOS, Android, PC), get it approved/certified, test it and then deploy it.
Changing numbers in HS isn't a hotfix, they have to actually release a file which patches the game just to change numbers on cards. At that point they would just rather save patches for when they have content to add rather than have to do them separately (cuts them time for patch approval and stuff, otherwise it would take even longer for stuff to get done).
I beat Hunter Lich King adventure by using double Stiches, Reno, Doomsayer as my only minions. Hard mulliganed for Stitces and Hunter DK, if I didn't get them I just restarted match. Getting that life steal Beast is a must in this match up.
SodiumBenzoate
Member
What are people using for the Warrior one? I'm struggling.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
So according to email I now received 2000 dust from the pack screw up thing. Not bad.
Tempo Patron Warrior seems to be the best. You can keep generating Patron boards that he has little answer to while generating armor with Armorsmith.
Here is my deck. Basically tried to run patrons but never had enough steam.
1 x Armorsmith
2 x Doomsayer
2 x Fiery War Axe
2 x Alarm-O-Bot
1 x Brann
1 x Coldlight Oracle
2 x Death's Bite
1 x Faceless Shambler
2 x Antique Healbot
2 x Corpse Raiser
1 x Faceless Manipulator
2 x Sludge Belcher
1 x Emperor Thaurissan
1 x Reno Jackson
1 x Foe Reaper 4000
1 x Grommash Hellscream
1 x Kel'Thuzad
1 x Ragnaros the Firelord
1 x The Lich King
1 x Blood of the Ancient One
1 x Ysera
1 x Deathwing V.1
1 x Deathwing V.2
While the deck may look like a mess, it actually has a number of win conditions. The only real strategy is to mulligan for fiery war axe and alarm o bot and let it ride from there. If you grab KT, FR4000 or the Lich King you're usually good to go. I actually had a lot of success with it but accidentally sabotaged myself twice.
BigJonsson
Member
Nice, 2000 free dust
What should I craft!
What should I craft!
slightconfuse
Banned
Congrats I'm at rank 3 right now
SodiumBenzoate
Member
Finally beat him with Patron Warrior off of 2x Grom Hellscream from Rotface.
Arthas' "You Are Beyond Redemption!" is the new meta for BM emotes. Highly recommended.
Arthas' "You Are Beyond Redemption!" is the new meta for BM emotes. Highly recommended.