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Heist [Mafia] |OT| Snakes on a Train

CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Burbeting (3)
Ty4on .348
squidyj .377
Karu .451

*Splinter (2)
Kawl_USC .88
cabot .92 .95
CornBurrito .254 .337
Ty4on .314 .314
Ourobolus .362

Ty4on (2)
Ty4on .61 .115
FluxWaveZ .484
*Splinter .485

CornBurrito (2)
Burbeting .110
Ty4on .115 .314
CrimsonFist .402

FluxWaveZ (1)
Mazre .55
FluxWaveZ .56 .154
Ty4on .314 .314

CrimsonFist (1)
Droplet .269

Karu (1)
Burbeting .64 .110
Ty4on .314 .314
cabot .351
FluxWaveZ .392 .484

cabot (1)
squidyj .60 .377
cabot .89 .92
CornBurrito .465

Mazre (1)
cabot .69 .89
Ty4on .314 .314
Royal_Flush .400

Ourobolus (0)
cabot .95 .220
Ty4on .314 .314

Droplet (0)
CrimsonFist .327 .402

redhood56 (0)
CornBurrito .135 .149
FluxWaveZ .154 .349

squidyj (0)
cabot .242 .351
*Splinter .443 .485

Royal_Flush (0)
CornBurrito .149 .254
redhood56 .156 .401
cabot .220 .242
CrimsonFist .276 .312

Kawl_USC (0)
Karu .74 .451
CrimsonFist .312 .327
*Splinter .329 .443


No active vote for Day 1:
redhood56 (has previously voted)



Day 1 ends:
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8 votes for majority
 

Ty4on

Member
While I don't really understand the people jumping on Ty4on for his earlier post, this one is sticking out to me - Mazre was calling out the fact that the day is ending and we don't have a clear path and that one player hasn't cast a vote. Hardly anti-town.

I find posts like that blaming town for behaving badly to be very scummy. They lower morale for town team, are easy to make for scum and can seem pro town.

Why doesn't he make an attempt to focus our attention? Tell us whom he thinks we should focus on? If he's a worried townie that's what I expect him to do.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
I find posts like that blaming town for behaving badly to be very scummy. They lower morale for town team, are easy to make for scum and can seem pro town.

Why doesn't he make an attempt to focus our attention? Tell us whom he thinks we should focus on? If he's a worried townie that's what I expect him to do.

I'll give you that, but short of giving everyone direction, I don't consider anti-town to at least bring it to everyone's attention.
 
There are multiple ifs there...

You've really not pressed a lot of people so far. Most of the posts I remember are similar to this one. A short, hostile response. A far cry from your long posts in DR.

It is D1 and DR was a very different game. I've also pressured Royal and Splinter at various points.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
No, a hypothetical where red flips town. Despite being attacked so much the interactions with him were really light. Mostly just "yeah, that town claim was suspicious".

Oh, your wording was confusing. Not sure what we'd find out from redhood56 flipping town, if anything. Again, it's like the couple of players in WW2 I pointed out before: redhood is making very strange posts and practically acting against town. I feel like I want to lynch them just for that, but they could very well be town and it might not be worth it.

I have pretty much never interacted with Crimson so I don't quite follow. Is it because we look like scum buddies?

I'd still keep an eye on him. My read on him is really soft and I've townread scum like that before.

I'm curious about what link you're seeing between us too.

It comes down to the few interactions between you two that makes me feel like you both might be on the same team. CrimsonFist is already my top scum read, so that's what I was paying attention to when going back through the thread. Mostly a gut feeling, mainly from the connotation in the use of words in this specific interaction: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189835145&postcount=300

Again, though, it's not like I would suddenly town read Crimson if Ty4on flipped town.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Well this developed into an...interesting 12 hours.

I'm sorry you feel that you aren't really getting a fair shake this game Cabot, that must be really frustrating. Looking at the thread I do feel that people weren't taking the Squidyj you are always scum to me post seriously. As some one who listed you in my blind spot, that doesn't mean I'm going to blindly vote for you once someone builds any type of case. I like you being active and your contributions and posting style, so I was merely saying I'll have to make an effort to check the good vibes you give me to make sure I'm not having the wool pulled over my eyes.

But if you really don't feel like going on with the game I understand.

As far as the votes on Ty seeming bandwagony, well yea it seems so far in this game its very much a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't by someone. Either its 5 hours out and we are scattered/meandering or well that bandwagon came out of no where.

Personally, I think it may behoove us to at least get two front runners so we can get some more meaningful patterns than just a dogpile on.

Of the people I mentioned as reading scum I think Flux is probably at my top so

Vote: FluxWaveZ

Although I'm not sure how the votes stand currently after the votes moving onto Ty so if this doesn't help create a more focused race for voting I would be open to moving it.
 

Kawl_USC

Member
Man I suck at formatting.

I see updated vote count posted. I'm fine with switched Splinter with Flux for one of the vote leaders as I feel more suspicious of Flux than Splinter.

Vote: FluxWaveZ
 

squidyj

Member
I was going to say my pushing on cabot was misdirection to generate some interactions and keep people looking one way so I can read things from another angle where I was also interested in how people interacted with what I was doing, it's true I have a hard time reading Cabot which is why I thought it would be best to target him with such a play. I picked up some interactions that I felt were pretty townie off of it and I noticed a few players that didn't really want to interact with it. So I think it was useful and I was going to call it done now and say that I have no real read on cabot one way or the other but that outburst. I dunno. That's a weird outburst. I look into my soul and ask myself if that is a frustrated town outburst and I don't know, it's hard for me to tell.


I do want to clarify that what I mean is that by posting before being caught up, leaves you liable to simply repeat past thoughts which don't help town but up your post count and look like contributing posts. You can do it if you want but it's not generally a good idea and pointing out that it's the way you always do things as a justification for posting things others have already said is pretty poor.

That said I've been rereading the thread and honestly I want to kill Mazre, when he has posted he has given us nothing, nothing! NOTHING! Mazre is practically Disney on Ice at this point

FluxWaveZ has also been saying some weird stuff and I see where Ty4on's getting all the heat from but I actually don't think he's a good target for a lynch today.

Vote: Mazre
 

squidyj

Member
Part of the weirdness of Cabot's outburst is that outside of my aggression I don't think he was ever really in any danger from anybody else so..... maybe just
"yeah whatever squidarryl" would have been the attitude for a town-member to adopt
 

Ty4on

Member
Oh, your wording was confusing. Not sure what we'd find out from redhood56 flipping town, if anything. Again, it's like the couple of players in WW2 I pointed out before: redhood is making very strange posts and practically acting against town. I feel like I want to lynch them just for that, but they could very well be town and it might not be worth it.
Yeah, I might have been a bit too defensive of red.
I don't really town read him. I haven't made a good read of him, but he behaves a lot like nervous townies I see on D1 in tons of games who go against the norm, are lynched and we learn nothing and missed our chance to prod the other players. Right now though there really isn't time for that.
I'll go back and make some reads of him, but I am leaning towards a lynch of him. He is quite fluffy and a lot of the other candidates seem more useful should they be town or like town who were simply busy.

It comes down to the few interactions between you two that makes me feel like you both might be on the same team. CrimsonFist is already my top scum read, so that's what I was paying attention to when going back through the thread. Mostly a gut feeling, mainly from the connotation in the use of words in this specific interaction: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=189835145&postcount=300

Again, though, it's not like I would suddenly town read Crimson if Ty4on flipped town.
That was exactly what was in my mind. As I drafted that post it occurred to me that I had town read him while never really interacting with him. We're really looking like scum buddies :S

Again; if he is town he is far too useful now to risk lynching, but I really regret not prodding him and letting him slide.

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If there's still mood for lynching me, I'm curious as to why?
 

Mazre

Member
It's amazing what some people can read into a handful of words.

Alright let's try this for focusing then, let's put myself up against Ty4on. You're all obviously free to vote for whomever you'd like but a 5 way tie at 2 votes a piece won't tell us much in the end.

VOTE: Ty4on


Also, since when was 2 (or even 3 votes) a bandwagon?
 

*Splinter

Member
I wanted to go out guns blazing and attacking the first post, but I agree.

I've been far too scared of hitting a townie in other games, but in this one especially it's inevitable.

This is also behavior I can get behind!

Vote: Ty4on
First post of the game, gives a pre-emptive reason for anyone who might think he's different to usual. Did indeed quote this post as soon as I accused him of anything.

Some meta discussion on scum knowledge and self voting

Everybody gets into college in Canadia.

VOTE:CornBurrito

Nah. I think we should keep the heat up against scum.

This vote looks reasonable, I agreed with it at the time at least. Hard to tell if it was serious, prod or pure fluff though.

Town-reads Burb (no reason given). Interesting as this is the first game where Burb has been getting more scum reads than town (I think)

As if we're in a game with NK immune PRs.

This is the first of a series of posts where you try to make a point against me based on semantics.

I never thought you did that, only that you slipped.

And here is where you dropped it. Honestly I never understood this post but I was tired of talking about it already. Never thought I did what? You just leave it at "you slipped" and slink off back to the sidelines.

I was feeling pretty uneasy about you at this point, but I looked through your posts and could never put my finger on why. There was just something missing from your posts, no hard stances or real pressure on anyone. A few too many meta posts and drive by nothingness.

The next day was slightly better. You prod Flux a bit and kind of had a point against him. Then there is this post:

Isn't this prime time in the US? Why is this thread so dead?

Conversation topics
-Corn vs Splinter:
These two have a bit of history both competing and being scum mates. What do you think of their confrontations? There's lots of show, but little substance. Really the weird part is when they misunderstood me reading *Splinter possibly being a scum who slipped both went hard on me. I haven't really followed any closely in a recent game**, but in Woof *Splinter was much more active in prodding people about current events, but here he's on the other side being prodded by Corn.

-Burbeting vs squidyj:
There's much more on the first pages BTW. I have zero experience with Burb, but while I know I town read him initially he is saying a lot of stuff that is easy to agree with and my read was colored heavily by him voting for the same person I was thinking about voting for. Squidy scares me because his playstyle isn't terribly different from in Night Vale where he was scum. There's something more townie about him though; he is less arrogant and his opinions seem to evolve as the game progresses.

-Cabot vs squidyj:
I just posted this because I looked through squidyj's posts and it really stands out. I immediately scumread him in MGS for his doctor claim, but he was town. Thankfully scum killed him for me. I've made no attempt at reading him, but nothing big stands out one way or the other.

**/*Splinter was town in MGS which I subbed in, but NK immune and played very differently (hence the comments on him playing scum looking town and vice versa), but I didn't see him this "meh" in Woof. I skimmed Woof so I didn't build much of an image of Corn. There are WAY less crazy ideas here than in DR, but he isn't playing super safe either. He is kinda avoiding deep prodding like *Splinter did in DR.
Legend: In DR Corn was town while *Splinter was scum. First game for both.

Which looks great but its a lot of recap and past game discussion. There's almost nothing in terms of conclusion or opinion. You even go out of your way to say "no read here, not even tried reading him, move along nothing to see here" (on squidy)

Not really, but I've found some good tracks to listen to in the darkness as I (hopefully) crawl through the old posts.

"hi guys I'm re-reading look how town I am"

Yes. I wanted to point it out because a scum playstyle often makes someone less visible. In DR CzarTim was the only person to not receive a vote D1 and in Night Vale, apart from squidyj's vote on Razmos, not a single scum received a vote D1.

Thank you for reminding me to read him more though. I honestly forgot about that even though I wrote about him in my big post.

VERY agreeable here, the thank you especially is weird to me.

Yeah, but you'd think he'd be done with that...

You've made a few posts like this throughout the game. Just a point half thrown out there to let town latch onto and "realise" for themselves. I think this passive-aggressive shit-flinging is whats standing out to me compared to your previous games.

Know that right now you're probably my top lynch candidate.

What do you think of redhood?

(@Karu) Unless I missed something this was the first time you even mention Karu. This suspicion isn't explained at all. Inactivity? The post you quoted was Karu saying he hadn't had internet access for 24 hours. Was there something else? Otherwise that makes Karu and Mazre that you've accused based on their (explained) absence.

And thats pretty much it, up to this post that I already explained is you taking a dump on the less motivated players:

What Corn's vote means? Well if he is scum he's being very lazy, but he might want to get a bored Cabot out before her turns into a threat.
As a townie I don't see what use his vote has if any. If be wants to vote out inactive/unmotivated players we have better choices than Cabot. Burn has given up, Mazre is acting like scum Mazre in NV and of course you.



I don't trust this Ty4on. I don't like his lack of hard stances. I don't know who he really trusts or suspects (I'd have guessed me/flux but apparently Karu is his go to). I don't understand him writing off Burb (and me) already.


He's scum.



Corn did our divorce go through yet? Also answer my question pls. Cabot town why?
 

Ty4on

Member
FluxWaveZ has also been saying some weird stuff and I see where Ty4on's getting all the heat from but I actually don't think he's a good target for a lynch today.

Eh, we still have some time. Fight me.

I also read Flux more as town now for putting the first vote on me. I don't see any reason for scum to do that.
 

Ty4on

Member
And here is where you dropped it. Honestly I never understood this post but I was tired of talking about it already. Never thought I did what? You just leave it at "you slipped" and slink off back to the sidelines.

You slipped because you're scum who can't die and posted with that in your subconsciousness.
All of that is speculative of course, but that's all I meant. You didn't press further so I thought you understood what I meant.
 

redhood56

Banned
Vote: Ty4on
You made some weird posts about voting for someone just because they didn't have any votes, the fight me comment a couple posts above as I'm writing this, and the self vote.
 

Ty4on

Member
Which looks great but its a lot of recap and past game discussion. There's almost nothing in terms of conclusion or opinion. You even go out of your way to say "no read here, not even tried reading him, move along nothing to see here" (on squidy)

Fuck, thanks for pointing this out. I was speaking of Cabot in Cabot vs squidyj. I had posted my opinions of squidyj further up in that post.
 

Ty4on

Member
Going to need more elaboration on that.

It's a way softer read than I thought it would be, but I was prodding people yesterday and townread Flux. I didn't have any votes so it could look suspicious (note a bunch of people questioning the bandwagon against me when I received only 2 votes at the time) and there are much easier targets than me.

That's just if they play as safely as I think they're playing though. Me flipping town will either way put Flux and Splinter especially under a lot of suspicion.
 

Ty4on

Member
It also feels pro town. I had made some of the same mistakes I always do by totally ignoring Red because he was getting so much attention.
 

Ty4on

Member
(@Karu) Unless I missed something this was the first time you even mention Karu. This suspicion isn't explained at all. Inactivity? The post you quoted was Karu saying he hadn't had internet access for 24 hours. Was there something else? Otherwise that makes Karu and Mazre that you've accused based on their (explained) absence.

My prodding of Karu has been really bad, but I've just forgotten about him. Right there I was heading to bed and wanted some pressure on him. I did the same earlier in the game with several players including Karu.
Meh, going to bed.

VOTE: Ourobolus
UNVOTE
VOTE: *Splinter
UNVOTE
VOTE: Mazre
UNVOTE
VOTE: Karu

...
UNVOTE
Vote: FluxWaveZ
I don't trust this Ty4on. I don't like his lack of hard stances. I don't know who he really trusts or suspects (I'd have guessed me/flux but apparently Karu is his go to). I don't understand him writing off Burb (and me) already.

I think you missed this post:
These aren't very accurate BTW. My vote for Burb is self explanatory, but Corn is leaning null. His interactions with *Splinter are interesting though.

Null: Droplet, redhood, Ouro, Cabot, Corn and maybe *Splinter and Mazre.
Scummy:
Royal is a soft read as he has been quite active, but his town rubs me the wrong way (and there's more of it than in Night Vale) and he hasn't been that active.
Karu has posted a lot of fluff and stuff I could imagine scum Karu posting.
Burb is also a little worrying in that he hasn't been involved in much friction. That's super useful for scum in the long run as there's less to suspect them with and harder to find mates if we finally lynch them.
Kawl has posted a lot of long posts, but what I've read ends up being very soft and meandering. Could be how he writes (Trigger in NV comes to mind) though.

I'm a little safer on Crimson, Flux and squidy. Flux has stepped it up and is actively in the conversation. I know Crimson fooled many in woof so I should go back to him, but he has also been active and looking like he was trying to get stuff done. I've said stuff about squidy before, but he looks similar, but more like a townie figuring out stuff and making gambits than a scum knowing everything and being bored.
 

*Splinter

Member
My prodding of Karu has been really bad, but I've just forgotten about him. Right there I was heading to bed and wanted some pressure on him. I did the same earlier in the game with several players including Karu.



I think you missed this post:
Fair enough, I definitely missed that post. Also the post with lots of votes I misinterpreted as "I don't know where to go now". The "..." in the middle I thought was short hand for voting every one. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo
 

Ty4on

Member
Fair enough, I definitely missed that post. Also the post with lots of votes I misinterpreted as "I don't know where to go now". The "..." in the middle I thought was short hand for voting every one. Eeny-meeny-miney-mo

It was to light their eyes up when they saw their names in read.
 

Karu

Member
All day silence reigns like nothing else and two hours before deadline the heat on Ty4on grews immensely. I'm not saying people don't have their legit suspicions, but if he turns out to be Town, I or we should take a real hard look at those Votes. Will leave my Vote on Burb, because the circumstances of last few hours stink.
Looking at the thread I do feel that people weren't taking the Squidyj you are always scum to me post seriously.
I have no idea how anyone possibly could tbh.


Also: Multiple people bringing moral down sucks just from a general perspective - every one of them is probably just honest, I've my moments to were everythig seems overwhelming. It just doesn't help.
 

Ty4on

Member
5 was a bit excessive, but we have 14 here excluding me.

I'll admit it was pretty intimidating.

Yeah, I should have just left you alone like the rest of town.

I know you've been busy Mazre, but what have your contributions been so far?
 

Mazre

Member
5 was a bit excessive, but we have 14 here excluding me.



Yeah, I should have just left you alone like the rest of town.

I know you've been busy Mazre, but what have your contributions been so far?

There's a thread search tool, go do your own homework sir. You've had no problem ascribing your own motives to my actions up to this point.
 

Ty4on

Member
Also: Multiple people bringing moral down sucks just from a general perspective - every one of them is probably just honest, I've my moments to were everythig seems overwhelming. It just doesn't help.

That's true. I apologize for being so sarcastic.
 

Ty4on

Member
There's a thread search tool, go do your own homework sir. You've had no problem ascribing your own motives to my actions up to this point.

I have had to do the same with my own posts. The search tool isn't the best tool in the world (especially stuck somewhere without my trust desktop) and nobody knows your posts like yourself.
 

Ty4on

Member
There's a thread search tool, go do your own homework sir. You've had no problem ascribing your own motives to my actions up to this point.

You've suspected me and Flux, but apart from an exchange (293-301-310) you've not provided much reasoning. Could I get some more thoughts from you?
 

Ty4on

Member
All day silence reigns like nothing else and two hours before deadline the heat on Ty4on grews immensely. I'm not saying people don't have their legit suspicions, but if he turns out to be Town, I or we should take a real hard look at those Votes. Will leave my Vote on Burb, because the circumstances of last few hours stink.
I have no idea how anyone possibly could tbh.

I honestly don't think the voting records will say much. Apart from redwood and a slight surge towards Mazre no one is really in danger right now so scum doesn't need to be worried. I'd look more at those standing on the sidelines.
 

Ty4on

Member
You've suspected me and Flux, but apart from an exchange (293-301-310) you've not provided much reasoning. Could I get some more thoughts from you?

There was really not much looking back. It was a little more confrontational than in NV I guess, but I don't have any better targets.

VOTE: Mazre

I didn't want to do that. Looks like I'm just protecting myself, but Mazre hasn't done much to convince me he is town and has received some votes.
 

Droplet

Member
Splinter and redhood's votes on Ty seem to be more of a hop onto the bandwagon rather than legitimate votes, and while Splinter justifies himself later, I'm not seeing the reason being particularly legitimate.

I am concerned by the amount of posts Ty's making right now. He's definitely on the cutting block right now and I think he's feeling it, but these posts come across more as wildly flailing. The other two targets he has right now are redhood and Mazre, which aren't particularly...hard targets to have? I don't like it. Not wanting to die is fine, and you should not want to die regardless of which side you're on, so I don't find it particularly indicative of one side or another (especially since we have no PRs you could possibly be saving). But if I was going to go out as town, I think leaving us with something, anything, that isn't about saving my own skin, would be more prudent than trying to redirect to the easiest target.
 

*Splinter

Member
Splinter and redhood's votes on Ty seem to be more of a hop onto the bandwagon rather than legitimate votes, and while Splinter justifies himself later, I'm not seeing the reason being particularly legitimate.

I am concerned by the amount of posts Ty's making right now. He's definitely on the cutting block right now and I think he's feeling it, but these posts come across more as wildly flailing. The other two targets he has right now are redhood and Mazre, which aren't particularly...hard targets to have? I don't like it. Not wanting to die is fine, and you should not want to die regardless of which side you're on, so I don't find it particularly indicative of one side or another (especially since we have no PRs you could possibly be saving). But if I was going to go out as town, I think leaving us with something, anything, that isn't about saving my own skin, would be more prudent than trying to redirect to the easiest target.
A 1 vote bandwagon? Flux and I both reacted to the same post - because it was a bad post - he just happened to respond faster
 

Mazre

Member
You've suspected me and Flux, but apart from an exchange (293-301-310) you've not provided much reasoning. Could I get some more thoughts from you?

That exchange is actually a decent part of it. You really came out of nowhere to answer a question directly posed to someone else. Add in your self voting, explicit town claims, and your recent flailing and yeah I consider you a possible scum. As I mentioned when referring to you and Flux a big part of this read is gut feeling, you're probably at about 65% right now, which is about the best you can really hope for D1 unless someone really plays exceptionally poor.
 

Ty4on

Member
I am concerned by the amount of posts Ty's making right now. He's definitely on the cutting block right now and I think he's feeling it, but these posts come across more as wildly flailing. The other two targets he has right now are redhood and Mazre, which aren't particularly...hard targets to have? I don't like it. Not wanting to die is fine, and you should not want to die regardless of which side you're on, so I don't find it particularly indicative of one side or another (especially since we have no PRs you could possibly be saving). But if I was going to go out as town, I think leaving us with something, anything, that isn't about saving my own skin, would be more prudent than trying to redirect to the easiest target.

I am kind of trying to do that. Looking back and posting my impressions of this thing and that thing. I dunno why though, but posting reads when nothing happens is for whatever reason harder.

Regarding saving my skin a lot of it is because a lynch like this tells town nothing. Had it been a back and forth fight versus someone else it would have been harder for scum, but right now they can just sit back.
I also feel like an active player trying to get some discussion going and fear it will die even more if I'm dead, but if I'll keep being a distraction I definitely understand the desire to seeing my flip and being done with it.

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BONUS READS:
Splinter is weird. On one hand he does some gutsy stuff, but many of his reads feel pointless like #203 (suspiciously being proactive saying he'll be stuck on his phone). He is also quite defensive of Mazre and Karu for having excuses to be inactive.

Corn has thrown a ton of shade against me, but is still without a vote.

Squidy tried to get something towards Mazre. I mean it could be scum trying to look town when I flip town.

Redhood has really stepped out of the ring. Weird given how he stepped into it yesterday. Could be timezone related, but he did briefly pop in and vote for me.

Royal_Flush has made no comment despite being quite suspicious of me yesterday. He's probably just busy and I can't read this one way or the other.

Ouro has been incredibly passive. He made a huge read list, but it almost felt like a necessity.

Droplet has made some good posts, but sadly a bit too few. I have no reason to be suspicious of you, but I hope you will be more active D2
 

squidyj

Member
I want mazre gone. The posts he's made throughout this game have been mostly useless, rehashes or clarifications of someone elses point. Now here he comes at the end of the day phase after A couple people brought him up and voted for him and he knows he cant not respond but at the same time I feel like he's hoping Ty4on will continue to hang himself.

I find it difficult to believe that Mazre is town while I find it plausible to believe that ty is town. Just look at Mazre's post history in this game.
 

squidyj

Member
What if the internet billions never made it on the train? what if somebody swapped them out at the start of things?
 

Droplet

Member
A 1 vote bandwagon? Flux and I both reacted to the same post - because it was a bad post - he just happened to respond faster

My bad, I looked back and I don't think yours is particularly bandwagony. Ty is at...4 right now though, which is a decent amount considering I don't think anyone else racked up 4 votes before this.

Going to take a look at Mazre.
 

Ty4on

Member
[...]A couple people brought him up and voted for him and he knows he cant not respond but at the same time I feel like he's hoping Ty4on will continue to hang himself.
[...]

Should I defend* or post reads?

*find old posts by me and argue why it makes me town
 
I say we start by turboing the client.
.

Anyway, I'm inclined to agree with Droplet that Ty4on's sudden surge of activity looks like someone desperate to avoid being lynched. His last post felt a bit more reasonable, with at least a few reads in it, however this:
a lynch like this tells town nothing
bugs me. A lynch like this would tell us a lot if you flipped scum, plus it would get rid of one scum.

Mazare doesn't seem to have contributed much of substance, true, however he did give an excuse at least for not being very active, and considering that Droplet seems to be getting a pass for inactivity, and Ouro has only really contributed those two read posts, he's not the only one I'd look at in that regard.
 

squidyj

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Anyway, I'm inclined to agree with Droplet that Ty4on's sudden surge of activity looks like someone desperate to avoid being lynched. His last post felt a bit more reasonable, with at least a few reads in it, however this:

bugs me. A lynch like this would tell us a lot if you flipped scum, plus it would get rid of one scum.

Mazare doesn't seem to have contributed much of substance, true, however he did give an excuse at least for not being very active, and considering that Droplet seems to be getting a pass for inactivity, and Ouro has only really contributed those two read posts, he's not the only one I'd look at in that regard.

my comments were not primarily about his post count but the insight he's brought to the table when he has posted and it's been honestly the worst in this game.
 
The way the conversation is going, Mazre and Ty4on are very unlikely to both be scum if one of them is indeed scum.

Not really impressed by squidy's reasoning, but I'll give him this one freebie trust.

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