Spot on. Kuo is not making sense with this one.
"Hello Again" Apple holding mac-centric media event October 27th 10am PST
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Macbook Escape teardown: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Function+Keys+Late+2016+Teardown/72415
The Real Abed
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I don't resell my old Macs. I hand them down to family members for free. My 2010 MBP is still going strong as my dads main machine. My 2011 Air belongs to my brothers ex, and my 2012 Air is my brothers even though the battery died years ago.
I'm saving myself money now by only upgrading once every four years. About $650 per year if I get a $2600 machine then vs. $1300 or so per year if I upgrade every year. Since im not reselling them I'm not making anything back so I'm wasting money. So I'm much better off this way.
Is that what we're calling it now?
Leona Lewis
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jts
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Yeah that's what I think as well, they don't want to devalue the Touch Bar MBP so they advertise both at what the TB MBP can achieve.
In any case, good on Apple for going that route instead of just putting a smaller battery on the cheaper, which they did the opposite actually. Well done.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/1/13486116/boot-up-sound-effect-macbook-pro-apple-how-to
there you go, terminal commands to: turn off auto-boot upon opening the lid, and bringing back the startup chime.
as expected, really.
there you go, terminal commands to: turn off auto-boot upon opening the lid, and bringing back the startup chime.
as expected, really.
firehawk12
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I'm literally browsing right now on the exact same machine. It's still going strong, but I gotta wait another year for the prices to drop/specs to go up I guess.coming from a Mid 2009
Apple 13.3" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26GHz, 2GB RAM (upgrade to 8), 160GB Hard Drive, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, SuperDrive - Aluminum unibody
to the lowest basic 13" 2GHz intel core i5
RIP old man
got to buy dongles
The Real Abed
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That's awesome. At least there's options. Even if they're hidden.
Now, what's the terminal command to replace the polished aluminum Apple logo with a glowing one?
And bring back Happy Mac while we're at it. We're getting old school up in here!
My 2008 MBP just died, and I was leaning toward the 2015 models (to keep Magsafe and HDMI) to replace it; but I just noticed the 2015s have integrated GPU, while the new touch bar 15" has an AMD graphics card. I've never used a laptop with an integrated GPU (to my knowledge), how much power would I sacrificing here? I have a dedicated windows gaming rig (with a hackintosh drive no less) for when I want real performance, so I'm not too worried, but I've heard integrated GPUs denigrated in some circles.
Still leaning towards the 2015 since I prefer function keys and ports but I figured I should ask.
Still leaning towards the 2015 since I prefer function keys and ports but I figured I should ask.
There's a version of the 2015 15" model that comes with a dGPU too.
The Iris Pro 5200 in the old Pro is rated at around ~832 gflops, the GPUs in the new Pros go from around 1 tflop to 1.86 tflops. So you'd be losing anywhere between ~20% to ~120% GPU performance depending on what GPU you spring for.
Note that you may be able to find refurb 2015 Pros with a Radeon M370X, which came in around 1 tflop.
Possibly no AirPods until 2017 rip. http://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/01/airpods-launch-january-2017/
Apple must be having problems. It really was a huge oversight to not be able to adjust the volume without Siri.
I want to get a pair of Beats X wireless whenever they become available.
Apple must be having problems. It really was a huge oversight to not be able to adjust the volume without Siri.
I want to get a pair of Beats X wireless whenever they become available.
Oh snap, that's exactly what I needed to know. Was just looking at what was available on Apple's website; glad I didn't rush into anything. Thanks gaf.
god dammit
Wow, apple is kind of a clusterfuck right now. The whole headphone/port thing feels like a company that doesn't know what it's doing rather than a company making strategic and planned out decisions for the future.
badcrumble
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I don't mind changing the volume with my phone for the most part, but yeah, I think the AirPods would really benefit from the slightly added complexity of allowing single tap, double tap, *and* long press (for easy play, pause, and skip in addition to activating Siri). Volume controls are tricky, but more reliance on Siri isn't a great thing IMO (I live in New York, meaning I'm underground with no Internet reception a fair amount of the time).
I'm currently considering picking up a refurbed Time Capsule for $279 but it'll be annoying to do that if Apple ends up putting out a superior mesh networking product this spring.
Rocky Raccoon
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Fuck, Amazon is honoring price mistakes on the new MacBook Pros.
I was able to get mine for $1139.92 for the MacBook Pro without Touch Bar. 76% of the cost, 78.6% after student discount
A few lucky ones got the MacBook Pro 15" for $1999 that was originally $2799. 71.4% of the cost, 76.9% after student discount
I was able to get mine for $1139.92 for the MacBook Pro without Touch Bar. 76% of the cost, 78.6% after student discount
A few lucky ones got the MacBook Pro 15" for $1999 that was originally $2799. 71.4% of the cost, 76.9% after student discount
jts
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Suffering a delay is not about not knowing what to do. The unexpected happens, even for Apple.
That' being said, it is a bit too much to assume that removing the port on the iPhone 7 was merely a vehicle to sell AirPods, and one cannot live without the other or some sort. Of course the development of those 2 things is intertwined but the AirPods are for a small, small subset of IPhone 7 users that are willing to shell out $170 for an optional pair of earbuds, and a slice of fhe AirPods buyers will be on other iPhone models too. Meanwhile for the iPhone 7 there are earbuds packed in the box, there is a lightning headphone licensing program, any wired headphones are compatible with the included adapter, any bluetooth headphones are compatible, and Apple already have available a whole range of products branded as Beats. I don't see the big hoopla here, it's bad sure but the issue is the same as with any other product delay - people want to buy a certain product and will have to wait a bit more or pick up an alternative.
The fact that Apple bothered including a dongle for 3.5mm headphones with the iPhone 7 is a tacit admission that they know 3.5mm headphones aren't actually going anywhere. Same with the port's continued existence on the MBP, and I'd bet the next iPads will have one too. You don't see Apple including a dongle for USB-A with these MBPs, because they actually believe USB-C is where everything's going.
The removal of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7, I would wager, came down to this: they wanted a bigger camera system and a bigger Taptic Engine (have you seen the one in the 6S Plus? It's comically small), and they needed a vent so the barometer in the phone could work despite the waterproofing, so the headphone jack was removed to make room for all these things. They probably felt that, between including a dongle and offering wireless headphones, they could get away with it.
The removal of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7, I would wager, came down to this: they wanted a bigger camera system and a bigger Taptic Engine (have you seen the one in the 6S Plus? It's comically small), and they needed a vent so the barometer in the phone could work despite the waterproofing, so the headphone jack was removed to make room for all these things. They probably felt that, between including a dongle and offering wireless headphones, they could get away with it.
Interesting to see another variation on the PCIe SSD module. Guess it was expecting too much that they'd go with m.2... is the 5GBps speed more than that spec allows?
Duh. People who screamed that they were just trying to nickle and dime them completely missed the boat. The headphone jack is a dying technology but as much as Apple emphasized it, it's really the least important reason they removed it on the phone. If they could have adequately waterproofed it and had room for the taptic engine they would have probably kept it in while still pushing airpods or the like in anticipation.
I realize the unexpected happens, but if you're really planning things out that shouldn't happen as much. Apple took out the headphone jack in the phone and pointed to headphones like these as the future and the headphone jack itself as the past. Now we're living in a world where those future headphones are still in the future and their macbook can't plug into their own phone. They didn't choose the same port to go with on their own devices and it all seems like poor planning. It would have been a world of difference if the iPhone had USB-C and their future headphones were readily available right away, in my opinion.
We're also talking about a device that people typically have for 1 or 2 years. Delays of 3-4 months are kind of significant in the lifespan of your device.
eyeball_kid
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Delays happen, but it's not a good look when your narrative is that the headphone jack is dead, and you have the future the jackless iPhone 7 with sci-fi wireless earbuds but then your sci-fi future is delayed indefinitely.
better than saying it's the future, and then releasing a severely flawed product.
I mean the delay is bad don't get me wrong.. but a flawed product would be exponentially worse. one is "aw wtf... c'mon." the other is "you were wrong. period."
Did you look at the product that was linked to? The post you quoted reads very differently if you do.
what the hell Razer:
Never thought Samsung would look classy in comparison, but here we are.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
what the hell Razer:
Holy hell.
what the hell Razer:
So Razer is a guy?
eyeball_kid
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I agree if this was a minor issue or production issues, but there's no new shipping date, which speaks to something larger. If these are design flaws, it makes me wonder how they got to a product state. Rushed development in order to ship with the 7? Or was the no volume control backlash so loud that they decided to tinker with it? My guess is the former, though press people who had prerelease versions said they didn't have any major issues.
The Albatross
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what the hell Razer:
The fuck.
I actually went to Razr's website after the MBP announcement and being disappointed by it, thinking, "Maybe I'll get a PC laptop..." Was leaning towards Razr too if I bought a PC laptop, but now... I don't think so.
eyeball_kid
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what the hell Razer:
Funny, I've never seen a "pro" make a statement like "S my D" when representing their company in public.
what the hell Razer:
Yikes...
Hey Razer, if you need a new marketing guy let me know.
Zeyphersan
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No kidding
Dreams-Visions
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Awful tweet but LOL at it changing what you're going to buy.
Rocky Raccoon
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what the hell Razer:
Should've left out "S my D"
what the hell Razer:
We are talking about the same company that said:
The tweet would be fine without the last sentence, honestly, and even with that it's not a huge deal.
I'm not too terribly confident in the health and continued support of a company that would allow some fucking idiot to run their social media like that, and I like to have confidence when I'm putting down large sums of money.
Of course it'd be fine without the "suck my dick" reference, but they couldn't help themselves.
I had a similar reaction when Oneplus invited people to film themselves destroying their phone to win a new one (putting themselves at personal risk from smashed glass or battery chemical leaks) and then cancelled it in favour of a competition where women were asked to take photos of themselves and be judged on their forum.
So it wouldn't be offensive without the offensive part. Do tell!
TemplaerDude
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How in Pete's name does that not immediately sink that company.
I thought I was going to be able to ignore this situation and wait out a computer upgrade until Apple realizes they've pissed off a huge amount of their developer base and makes changes, but this morning I noticed that my Macbook Air 2012 was saying its battery needed service.
Going over again everything that was announced the new Macbook Pro Escape is not bad, but it's so uninspiring for the price that I could see myself buying another Macbook Air.
I'll probably just repair the battery on this Macbook Air 2012. It works fine and none of these new computers feel worth it.
Going over again everything that was announced the new Macbook Pro Escape is not bad, but it's so uninspiring for the price that I could see myself buying another Macbook Air.
I'll probably just repair the battery on this Macbook Air 2012. It works fine and none of these new computers feel worth it.
The Real Abed
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Side note, that trackpad location is pissing me off. I don't know why. Probably because I can only use trackpads on the left side, or on a laptop, below the trackpad, where it belongs. (I assume they offer left-handed models with it on the left?)what the hell Razer:
That aside though, another thing I cannot stand on a PC laptop is an offset keyboard. By which I mean keyboards with extra keys on the side push the keyboard off center and I make so many typos every time I have to put up with maintaining my sister and moms laptops. Plus an offset trackpad is just worse. Center that stuff and don't put the main keyboard area offset.
/silly rant
The 2012 Air is the same one I had with the battery dying. My brother uses it now but he's gotten so used to the battery being dead and having to use it as an always plugged in machine that he never got it replaced.
what the hell Razer:
Of course tis would come out from the "laptop for gamers" *smh*
Wowfunhappy
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Here's the thing—I really don't care why Apple did it. Neither of those things are anywhere near as important to me as having headphones that I can plug into my desktop, laptop, gaming consoles, and phone without an adapter. It doesn't have to be the 3.55mm jack—I'd be fine with buying USB-C headphones—but it needs to be a port that isn't exclusive to exactly two product lines in the entire world.
Edit: And to get back on topic, the same point applies for laptops. I need a normal keyboard. One of the main things I do on my laptop is TYPE, damnit, and I can't do that on a butterfly keyboard. If that's the price of making laptops so thin, it's not a price I'm willing to pay.
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