Heroes of Newerth Beta PC (dota clone)
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. Would be more than happy if anyone had any spares Lostconfused
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Is there actually anything to the games website besides the front page? And is someone sending you an invite the only way to get in at this point?
Lone_Prodigy
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What heroes would you recommend for 1v1 battles?
crimzonflame
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I really want to try this game out. If someone has an extra beta key, please send it my way?
I got a key, so nobody needs to send one my way any longer.
I played most of the day yesterday. I am completely new, never played DOTA. Read a few guides on their site, got the basic idea of the game. At first I thought it seemed pretty lame, then...well...it got addicting quickly.
Learning all the skills and all the classes is going to take a bit though. Looks like I will be in the Noob servers for quite some time.
I am mainly trying to play and get good with Thunderbringer. Harassing early and mid game, and trying to hold down the middle lane, which may not be the best idea for someone totally new to the game.
I played most of the day yesterday. I am completely new, never played DOTA. Read a few guides on their site, got the basic idea of the game. At first I thought it seemed pretty lame, then...well...it got addicting quickly.
Learning all the skills and all the classes is going to take a bit though. Looks like I will be in the Noob servers for quite some time.
I am mainly trying to play and get good with Thunderbringer. Harassing early and mid game, and trying to hold down the middle lane, which may not be the best idea for someone totally new to the game.
In 1v1 and high-level games, any invisibility char is useless because people can counter them.theMrCravens
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I'm also tempted, but I'm afraid that this game will only have a small niche community.Davidion said:
If everyone who joins up is in a clan or only wants to stack teams in their favor, I'll be left up searching for balanced games for a long time.
theMrCravens
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But almost every game I join has people locking up their clanmates and friends.Anso said:
Already makes it unfair.
They need a "AUTO-BALANCE ONLY" button where it auto searches other people and starts game without going to the lobby.
blitz64
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MrBen said:
That's automated matchmaking and they are working on that. It should come in the next few months.
There are average 10,000 players online at anytime with 200+ open games. That is not a small community at all. There are still millions of dota players who have not tried this game.
Lostconfused
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Can some one give me a spare key if they dont mind?
theMrCravens
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Heh. I heard people getting kicked from games because of the shield.blitz64 said:
Preordered as soon as the option was made public :3
Also, vote for my Meepo port!
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=13258
Also, vote for my Meepo port!
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=13258
Casval said:
Read it, doesnt Puppet Master have a skill called Whiplash? Might want to change the name on your hero. Why is the thread closed, though?
Surprising to see a beta forum mod on GAF!
EDIT: Surprising to see the creator of Meepo on GAF, hats off to you, good sir.
blitz64
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There is a S2 employee on gaf
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344919
Probably not posting here to avoid conflict of interest.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344919
Probably not posting here to avoid conflict of interest.
spootime
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Still playing this game with friends and loving it. Delay is almost nonexistent, even when playing on a european server. Try that in dota and it'll be unplayable. The hero control in this game feels very good. Denies are rewarding with the deny message and last hits also feel great with the creep explosion. I really recommend that newcomers try this game out. I see quite a few noob games going up, and you can always make your own. Hell, I'm sure anyone from the gaf clan would be willing to help you out.
S2 just needs to import some more dota heroes and this game will be perfect
Edit: Casval thats a fantastic remake of meepo, and ill make a post in that thread tomorrow, but have you thought of giving him a set bonus for each additional tentacle he raises? For instance, at 6 he raises 1 tentacle giving all tentacles + 3% AS/MS and side tentacles gain like an additional 5% of hiveminds hp, then at 11 he can get another % bonus. IMO the bonus's you gave him on the tentacles arent sufficient enough to qualify him as a great late gamer because of the set numbers, such as +25 dmg and +150 health.
S2 just needs to import some more dota heroes and this game will be perfect
Edit: Casval thats a fantastic remake of meepo, and ill make a post in that thread tomorrow, but have you thought of giving him a set bonus for each additional tentacle he raises? For instance, at 6 he raises 1 tentacle giving all tentacles + 3% AS/MS and side tentacles gain like an additional 5% of hiveminds hp, then at 11 he can get another % bonus. IMO the bonus's you gave him on the tentacles arent sufficient enough to qualify him as a great late gamer because of the set numbers, such as +25 dmg and +150 health.
Thanks for the comments guys. Unfortunately, I had to lock it. I denied [this hero] from reaching Top Suggestions. Basically, it's an internet meme from SomethingAwful, and it zerged over 100 yes votes in 3 hours due to a link being posted at SomethingAwful. After I denied it, my Meepo suggestion instantly got 3 downvotes because the SA Hivemind (how ironic!) got denied of their meme >.>
Anyway, idiots like them make me really appreciate GAF. I'm still new here, but even the trolls here at least make me smile once in a while :lol
EDIT: Reopened the topic, hopefully it's blown over by now = /
Also, regarding your suggestion, that was my original plan, but I decided it would be too linear a skill progression. I wanted specifically to cater to different playstyles; the +HP and MP is no joke though =P
I don't want the Hivemind to be a late game beast; that would cause a lot of problems, seeing as how his survivability is already much higher than Meepo's, his mobility is higher too (being able to Poof to Earthbinded enemies), and his Poof damage is higher too (due to Earthbind now removing magic armor).
Anyway, idiots like them make me really appreciate GAF. I'm still new here, but even the trolls here at least make me smile once in a while :lol
EDIT: Reopened the topic, hopefully it's blown over by now = /
Also, regarding your suggestion, that was my original plan, but I decided it would be too linear a skill progression. I wanted specifically to cater to different playstyles; the +HP and MP is no joke though =P
I don't want the Hivemind to be a late game beast; that would cause a lot of problems, seeing as how his survivability is already much higher than Meepo's, his mobility is higher too (being able to Poof to Earthbinded enemies), and his Poof damage is higher too (due to Earthbind now removing magic armor).
Ogrekiller
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Does anyone have any beta keys left
Ogrekiller
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blitz64 said:
Yea, but I'm giving them away to friends because they're huge DOTA fanatics. Personally I prefer more traditional RTS games.
ShadowPampers
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30 bucks is way to expensive for my taste. Its not that I can't afford it, is just that I don't think that it's the right price.
Why? A couple of reasons, first because its a pretty straightforward game without much change game over game(with this I mean that its always the same mechanics around the game and it will be the players who will make each game feel different), that was how DoTA was and this is how I assume this game will be, sure, there are new maps here but I don't see them making things too different (I don't like the other 5v5 map but I do like how you can make faster-paced matches in the 3v3 map.
But most of all, because its just a remake, the same game with a new coat of paint, of a FREE game that wasn't even done by S2, it was made by someone else who is making a Free2Play dota clone(ironically).
Yes, its nice they have a few new maps and heroes, and I think I would gladly pay for this game, but 30 seems too much. Specially when you take into account the above.
People often argue in the forums against these claims saying that the effort put in the matchmaking and lobby, yeah, these are great, but a bit over-exaggerated.
Why? A couple of reasons, first because its a pretty straightforward game without much change game over game(with this I mean that its always the same mechanics around the game and it will be the players who will make each game feel different), that was how DoTA was and this is how I assume this game will be, sure, there are new maps here but I don't see them making things too different (I don't like the other 5v5 map but I do like how you can make faster-paced matches in the 3v3 map.
But most of all, because its just a remake, the same game with a new coat of paint, of a FREE game that wasn't even done by S2, it was made by someone else who is making a Free2Play dota clone(ironically).
Yes, its nice they have a few new maps and heroes, and I think I would gladly pay for this game, but 30 seems too much. Specially when you take into account the above.
People often argue in the forums against these claims saying that the effort put in the matchmaking and lobby, yeah, these are great, but a bit over-exaggerated.
ShadowPampers said:
When people bought Warcraft 3, they weren't just paying for the ladder game. They also paid for the custom content, like DotA.
HoN is going to be no different--except instead of just silly tower defense maps (there will probably be plenty of those), you can make stuff as crazy as fully functional FPS and platformers. I believe S2 is planning to show off the moddability of the game later in the beta. Don't quote me on that though =P
Teknopathetic
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30$ doesn't seem like a shabby price to me. Free is good as well. It's worth 30$ and I say that preferring LoL.
Teknopathetic
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Yeah, I forgot about multi-platform but that's pretty big, especially for linux users who never get any love (stop using linux, hippies).
ShadowPampers
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Casval said:
Precisely, people who bought W3 payed for a lot of things besides DoTA. Not to mention, who made DoTA never got any profit through selling it directly, even though it was one of the most popular online pc games.
ShadowPampers said:
Only two developers of DotA Allstars have truly contributed anything to the map though.
Guinsoo, who created Allstars by copying heroes from all the other DotA maps, and IceFrog, who added original content and balanced the game out.
Don't know about Guinsoo's financial status, but I know that IceFrog is well-off enough that he doesn't need any sort of compensation, or at the very least, doesn't want any.
But anyway, HoN is a lot more than just what you're playing in the beta. There are going to be a ton of awesome stuff that we'll see in the coming months as the game is expanded.
GhostRidah
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Yea I also hear the map editor will be pretty extensive and the engine is not limited to just tower defense and games like it, so you will be paying for hon and many future mods that people will make for it. I remember reading they do want the map editor in sometime during beta but its not high priority at the moment.
I also payed for it considering I have already 4days played on this account alone (after stat wipe) I think it has a lot of potential.
I also payed for it considering I have already 4days played on this account alone (after stat wipe) I think it has a lot of potential.