Azmodan & Abathur are really good at this.
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Azmodan & Abathur are really good at this.
It's a sure way to lose in most cases.
But it's probably because you're in Dirt Tier.
TLV are as bad as I imagined them, maybe even worse. Gazlowe is better now, he can actually do some damage with his turrets early on and soak 2 lanes if he wants too. TLV have better heroic and maybe late game if your team isn't losing due to losing every team fight prior, then he's better. They're about same... /rant
Team carry in qm days are over QQ
I could deal with being way weaker now but what's worst is that playing them now is really really boring as you don't have abilities for the most of the game, really terrible changes to a hero that wasn't even played nearly as much as others. Shelved forever. 0/10 for this patch and TLV, utter failure, like nothing is right with the changes. You have to deal with extra pressure and effort to manage three heroes and you will be at such a huge disadvantage still, every time one of you dies you're punished as harshly as possible when you can't even 1v1 most heroes with all 3 in.
Team carry in qm days are over QQ
I could deal with being way weaker now but what's worst is that playing them now is really really boring as you don't have abilities for the most of the game, really terrible changes to a hero that wasn't even played nearly as much as others. Shelved forever. 0/10 for this patch and TLV, utter failure, like nothing is right with the changes. You have to deal with extra pressure and effort to manage three heroes and you will be at such a huge disadvantage still, every time one of you dies you're punished as harshly as possible when you can't even 1v1 most heroes with all 3 in.
Level 9.
Seriously, don't do it, she has no escape.
Zagara is insane at it due to Nydus Network.
Lack of Skin-Only bundles is so dumb- they're leaving money on the table every time.
has to be something else, I had 1600 or so yesterday and now I have over 4k
Her E is a pretty solid escape imo.
How many level 9+ heroes do you have?
AbundantChoice
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Huh, I might be finally starting to learn the game a little bit. When I first started, I tried Tyrande once, went "oh god no" and never looked back at her for a few months. Now i've cycled back around to her and... I think I understand her a lot better now? I think it takes a while to get any sort of feel for the "hybrid" characters that sort of split character archetypes, along with the specialist characters (versus relatively straightforward characters like ETC or LiLi)
It's level 9 actually.
Any stun just screws you.
Well, if you're in a position to win by splitpushing, you wouldn't exactly be afraid of getting stunned during/before E.
I mean these are not rank 1 comps, or else split pushing would be auto loss.
Deep in your heart you know I've already won.
I'm thinking more Zera/Butcher just run over and slap you silly. There are a lot of high-priority 1v1ers right now that kill it. But I'm also thinking more HL.
I see your murky and raise you a techies petition
I'm not sure what people at Blizzard think even with this possession ability, they should play their own game more. It still sucks and is utterly useless and irrelevant to how the game is played. Controlling some minions is the most worthless, waste of mana thing you can do in a game. They spent the time to add all of this changes to the ability while the concept is from the basis worthless. waste Maybe some maps in future make this more useful but even then it's going to be picked very rarely at best.
The Cowboy
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Stealth buff to Murky, that may be a bug. It's not documented in the patch notes.
After Octograbbing someone, right click anywhere else. Murky is free to slime, auto attack, rewind, etcetera, while the opponent is still trapped and being whacked at.
This is what they get for the 5% reduction in living the dream - Murky's revenge!!!!.
Dice
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They just want to utilize that aspect of her lore concept. What would be cool instead is something where she goes "KNEEL BEFORE ME!" and shoots them with a shadow power, and they do kneel for 1 second, at which point their "soul" is yours and when they die you get an "undead" version of them until they respawn. Gets more powerful as spawn times increase, but you have to be good enough to successfully kill the one you mark, which is where the stun helps a bit but not too much.
Split push is 8 times out of 10 the opposite. The game is so team fight heavy and reliant on you being present with your team and not getting caught out that split pushing is just nonexistent unless you're playing a hero who has global movement like BW/ETC/Falstad.
The lower your MMR the more viable it is cause no one has any map awareness, but once you start moving up the hill it's just a recipe for you to get one or two forts and stall out in the courtyard while the enemy team begins to snowball.
Also worth noting Blizzard acknowledges it's pretty useless as well and any time it gets viable (promote, the Aba cheese a while back, Murky, and so forth) they nerf it with the fury of a thousand suns.
SlickShoes
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Anyone else with horrible performance since the patch? I can't play anything but co op due to horrible freezes every 2-3 seconds, I makes playing against people sure fire death.
I thought you just said you'd split push even if your teammates raged at you.
what's your ping? hit ctrl+alf+f.
They have to try something absurd first and then tone it done for. Like make it to posses an entire lane or you can posses things like skull golems or heaven/hell immortals for 10 seconds.
Or a different idea, whoever kills you and everyone in a radius of it, is stunned and silenced, That's pretty good. They kill you last in a team fight now instead of first. Not a bad talent to have for Sylvanas considering how much damage she can do and how fast she can die.
jaundicejuice
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Managed to play 4 matches in the last two days, off peak times, ORD1 is bearable and borderline functional.
Not a fan of the new map. It feels like Blackheart Bay with its giant exp void in the middle mashed up with Haunted Mines grave golem. At least they've managed to segment the amount of time you're fighting over objectives and not gaining experience, which is a step up over Booty Bay. Also there's no watch tower which is just a huge win but the map layout feels super cluttered, especially in the middle.
From a presentation standpoint, specifically the music and announcer, it feels like Blizzard sweded themselves. It sounds and kinda looks like a cheap knock off of Diablo 3's fourth act and not the genuine article.
Overall it feels like a step back compared to Tomb of the Spider Queen.
This isn't Dota. More often than not split pushing is a sure fire way to cost your team an objective and probably feed. The maps are smaller and it's a lot easier to respond to a split pusher with just mounts, never mind global abilities.
It's possible for split pushing to be effective but that depends on your teammates and the enemy teams picks and how they respond. You probably also have to be in quick match. You'll also be reviled by pretty much everyone you play with.
Not a fan of the new map. It feels like Blackheart Bay with its giant exp void in the middle mashed up with Haunted Mines grave golem. At least they've managed to segment the amount of time you're fighting over objectives and not gaining experience, which is a step up over Booty Bay. Also there's no watch tower which is just a huge win but the map layout feels super cluttered, especially in the middle.
From a presentation standpoint, specifically the music and announcer, it feels like Blizzard sweded themselves. It sounds and kinda looks like a cheap knock off of Diablo 3's fourth act and not the genuine article.
Overall it feels like a step back compared to Tomb of the Spider Queen.
This isn't Dota. More often than not split pushing is a sure fire way to cost your team an objective and probably feed. The maps are smaller and it's a lot easier to respond to a split pusher with just mounts, never mind global abilities.
It's possible for split pushing to be effective but that depends on your teammates and the enemy teams picks and how they respond. You probably also have to be in quick match. You'll also be reviled by pretty much everyone you play with.
SlickShoes
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Same as it always is at about 60-70ms
fluffydelusions
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I'm lvl 32 and 28k gold what to do what to do. I've only ever purchased lili
For Eternal Conflict, I think it's better to gank the other side while they're attacking your boss than attacking the enemy boss yourself.
The area is just so crowded that fighting in it isn't worthwhile.
It'll be interesting to see everyone settle on a superior strategy though, it's not nearly as cut and dried as the others.
The area is just so crowded that fighting in it isn't worthwhile.
It'll be interesting to see everyone settle on a superior strategy though, it's not nearly as cut and dried as the others.
super-famicom
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Who do you own now? If you ever plan on Hero League, having 2-3 of each class will be useful.
Complistic
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New map is is crazy fun and that's all i care about.
I can personally recc zagara, anub'arak and rhegar as fun.
Try out heroes through the shop. See what appeals to you. Don't buy a 10k hero just yet.
Anub'arak is a top-tier tank for 4K.
Uther is a pretty irreplaceable healer at 7K in terms of utility.
Valla at 2K if you don't have her. Tychus at 4K is also really good.
Maximus.
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Agreed. That is the best tactic. For whatever reason, it was hard to get my teams to work together on this map. I guess not everyone is accustom to the play style in this game and this map really pushes the teamwork aspect. This map is also very easy to get dominated on if your team does not work together. Really well designed map though, really like it.
I see your murky and raise you a techies petition
Seriously ? What did Icefrog do to him to make him so much hated ?
Battlefield of Eternity is nearly as big a clusterfuck as Tomb was when that map went live.
Both maps right now consist of everyone fucking ignoring the objectives and just deathmatching until death timers get long enough for someone to finally decide to take an Immortal.
Can't wait til the new car smell wears off.
Both maps right now consist of everyone fucking ignoring the objectives and just deathmatching until death timers get long enough for someone to finally decide to take an Immortal.
Can't wait til the new car smell wears off.
Nothing, but he's competitively viable now so all hope is lost.
No skill bracket is safe from Techies anymore.
Sounds like Abathur and TLV are gods on the map right now.
I've played it 4 or 5 times now I think and Abathur was in 3 of them. Abathur team won all three so yeah. Just a lot of time wasting going on. And feeding.
Lots of fresh meat.
Leads me to my next observation;
The Butcher is the first new hero in some time I've seen feed to such a degree. Jaina and Syl and KT were range. TLV wasn't that popular. Thrall was probably the last one where people just ate it regularly, but his cooldowns were so short due to Battle Momentum it didn't seem to happen as often.
Just constant yolos into the back line where the enemy collapses on Butcher and their Rehgar pops Ancestral on his target or Uther hits them with Divine Shield. At least it happens on both teams I guess.
You're like 6 or 7 months late for that here (at least for Nova).
RIP Nova domination patch
I'd sign this just because Nova is actually bad and I wish they'd stop being on my team.
jaundicejuice
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Possession is still complete booty. The only case for it I can see is if you just want to completely ignore your team, ignore map objectives and just yolo push a lane.
Dat charge.
I've played with some decent Butchers so far. That pining chain ult of his is amazing.
Dat charge.
I've played with some decent Butchers so far. That pining chain ult of his is amazing.
Should give it to Raynor then.
http://www.heroesnexus.com/heroes/52-leoric
Leorics talents are interesting. Lots of sustain options. Should be pretty hard to kill later in the game.
Leorics talents are interesting. Lots of sustain options. Should be pretty hard to kill later in the game.
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