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Heroes of the Storm |OT2| Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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The scaling changes weren't meant to do what you think they were. They were meant to fix the huge issue that I was complaining about for months, where a 2 level lead was usually snowballing out of control because of the way stats scaled.
The more dangerous early game was a side effect of the fix.
That's what they're doing right now. They knew it was scrambling everything, but it definitely fixed the issue with guys like Thrall where the numbers weren't working in the early game.
Will try to be on tonight at 9ish your time then.
RumblingRosco
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You got that Hindu kush bruh?
something like that.
I had 10k g sitting in my account so I got lunara and then bought greymane with monies. Tried them both out in a couple bot games, and one QM each. I'm super rusty, but I like them both a lot. Seems to me that they are on polar opposites of the "Should I play this hero in solo que?" spectrum.
Greymane seems he'd be a lot easier to play on a coordinated team where as lunara seems like she's a lot easier to play against an uncoordinated team.
Or maybe it's just that in my greymane game the other team had a li ming and we got wrecked.
hard to say off one game....
The ability to outplay people on lunara is fun as fuck. and greyman has a surprising amount of mobility. What's everyone's go to builds? on Lunara I was going for vision (how the fuck is wisp on the 30 second cooldown? that's retarded, tyrande owl is like 12 seconds?.. and it does damage too) but with the vision and the leap ultimate I felt like I was able to make a lot of plays.
With greymane I was going with inner beat cooldown plus return mana during inner beast and cocktail talents at 7 and at 13 (or 16?) and trying to do a W, Q, E, Q, R combo on people but li ming/zeratul was destroying me
I had 10k g sitting in my account so I got lunara and then bought greymane with monies. Tried them both out in a couple bot games, and one QM each. I'm super rusty, but I like them both a lot. Seems to me that they are on polar opposites of the "Should I play this hero in solo que?" spectrum.
Greymane seems he'd be a lot easier to play on a coordinated team where as lunara seems like she's a lot easier to play against an uncoordinated team.
Or maybe it's just that in my greymane game the other team had a li ming and we got wrecked.
hard to say off one game....
The ability to outplay people on lunara is fun as fuck. and greyman has a surprising amount of mobility. What's everyone's go to builds? on Lunara I was going for vision (how the fuck is wisp on the 30 second cooldown? that's retarded, tyrande owl is like 12 seconds?.. and it does damage too) but with the vision and the leap ultimate I felt like I was able to make a lot of plays.
With greymane I was going with inner beat cooldown plus return mana during inner beast and cocktail talents at 7 and at 13 (or 16?) and trying to do a W, Q, E, Q, R combo on people but li ming/zeratul was destroying me
Don't worry. He'll show up in your next game. And 3 of your team members will be sitting in the Hall of Storms afk. And you'll get bodyblocked by the remaining member and run out of time.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Monkey king is possibly the worst thing ever added in this game
The worst thing
Hey, chase a reject from Animaniacs around for the entire time it takes your team to get in a logical lane position for a whopping 100g
Get to feel like an asshole if you don't help do the most unfun thing in the game even though you have 100k gold already
It simulates almost perfectly what it's like babysitting Murky in a lane, only you can't kill the fucker
The worst thing
Hey, chase a reject from Animaniacs around for the entire time it takes your team to get in a logical lane position for a whopping 100g
Get to feel like an asshole if you don't help do the most unfun thing in the game even though you have 100k gold already
It simulates almost perfectly what it's like babysitting Murky in a lane, only you can't kill the fucker
Acidote
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I just see it as 100 free gold every day. Much needed gold for a casual f2p player.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Oh I know, I just like to bitch
I re-subbed for my 8th month and he didn't even acknowledge the sub or send me my gat damn barrel boys t-shirt. Then again, in general he's been a lot less of the typical jovial Mc since he got back into the pro scene. Probably because most of the time when he streams he's still teamed with a BRFC teammate I guess.
Always thought of Fan as Donatello. The smart one who is also successful. And if we're doing turtles, Dreadnaught would have to be Leonardo since he's the leader and the only player who has really gotten universal praise for his shotcalling that I know of. He's also pretty level headed.
Raphael would have to be salty so Erho is a good pick. He's also the most popular turtle too, though, so I dunno if Erho could fill that part of the role. A more apt selection would be that dude from Team Liquid who quit but only played Illidan and Zera and all the EU guys thought he was the best in the world...can't even remember his name lol. It's like right there but I can't place it. Oreoman from Korea would also fit great melee player + saltiness.
If I were picking a Michaelangelo based on what little we really know of these dude's personalities, it'd be bkb. Everyone loves him and he loves to have fun. That's Michaelangelo.
Dunktrain would be Shredder. He's the evil mastermind/bad guy/etc.
I also feel like Bakery has to slot in this discussion somewhere because of his personality, but can't think of a mainline character to pair him with.
Raphael would have to be salty so Erho is a good pick. He's also the most popular turtle too, though, so I dunno if Erho could fill that part of the role. A more apt selection would be that dude from Team Liquid who quit but only played Illidan and Zera and all the EU guys thought he was the best in the world...can't even remember his name lol. It's like right there but I can't place it. Oreoman from Korea would also fit great melee player + saltiness.
If I were picking a Michaelangelo based on what little we really know of these dude's personalities, it'd be bkb. Everyone loves him and he loves to have fun. That's Michaelangelo.
Dunktrain would be Shredder. He's the evil mastermind/bad guy/etc.
I also feel like Bakery has to slot in this discussion somewhere because of his personality, but can't think of a mainline character to pair him with.
I started w/ bross and it snowballed, so zuna was donny just cause he does draft and shotcalling. And april cause sometimes he needs to be saved and the hots pro scene talks about him like they luh him ( i dont really know anything about april outside of tmnt arcade game)
Fan as leo because he carries + nondescript personality
I only watched the ooze movie and the one where they go to japan
Casey was also a throwaway because i had nothing for kenma
Fan as leo because he carries + nondescript personality
I only watched the ooze movie and the one where they go to japan
Casey was also a throwaway because i had nothing for kenma
I have a five year old and a three year old with every toy and TMNT related movie/TV show on their iPad you could imagine. #expertanalysis
PATCH DEPLOYED.
Rehgar:
Feral Lunge does 75% instead of 100% damage now.
And Lightning Shield down from 36 (+4% per level) to 30 (+4% per level)
KT:
Arcane Barrier only shields 150% instead of 200%. Also only lasts 4 secs instead of 6.
Gravity Lapse now just 1 sec instead of 1.5 stun.
Phoenix cooldown increased to 60 seconds from 40.
Jaina:
Frostbolt damage up from 160 to 190.
Cone of Cold damage up from 189 to 200.
Rehgar:
Feral Lunge does 75% instead of 100% damage now.
And Lightning Shield down from 36 (+4% per level) to 30 (+4% per level)
KT:
Arcane Barrier only shields 150% instead of 200%. Also only lasts 4 secs instead of 6.
Gravity Lapse now just 1 sec instead of 1.5 stun.
Phoenix cooldown increased to 60 seconds from 40.
Jaina:
Frostbolt damage up from 160 to 190.
Cone of Cold damage up from 189 to 200.
Nova got some buffs for sure. But I hate her so let's not talk about them.
Thrall with a small nerf. Nothing for Li-Ming this patch.
It's only been like two weeks, no? Since the CD change anyway. Still won't make it a pick sadly.
Thrall with a small nerf. Nothing for Li-Ming this patch.
It's only been like two weeks, no? Since the CD change anyway. Still won't make it a pick sadly.
Looks like you win Maledict. Your one moment of faith has been rewarded. Rehgar probably still perfectly viable to play just the way he was...though damn, Feral Lunge went from 200% to 75% now...it's basically just a charge at this point.
Makes me sad. No more satisfying kills unless they are truly on the cusp of death.
KT will be just fine so long as Chain Bomb reigns supreme.
Makes me sad. No more satisfying kills unless they are truly on the cusp of death.
Farewell KT
KT will be just fine so long as Chain Bomb reigns supreme.
Samurai G0SU
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no more golbins?
WTF are they thinking with that pyroblast change?
I have to say, I really don't like this thing they have going of "longer duration, more impactful" heroics. All it has done so far is mess up heroics that weren't taken in the first place.
slightly surprised by no Li-Ming change, but guess they want to let her at least have a week before adjusting.
I have to say, I really don't like this thing they have going of "longer duration, more impactful" heroics. All it has done so far is mess up heroics that weren't taken in the first place.
slightly surprised by no Li-Ming change, but guess they want to let her at least have a week before adjusting.
I'm not surprised at all. It's only been 7 days and Rehgar was possibly skewing her higher or lower in some regard.
Now they'll really know, and beyond that people will finally begin to adjust to her as time goes on so that will help sort out "truly ridiculous" from just "strong".
And agreed on the long ass cooldowns. They will have to massively buff all the numbers to get people to play with that shit. It truly felt like in Alpha all heroic cooldowns (for the most part) were a bit longer than they are now...or at least the ones used.
I would kinda like to see heroics in the 80+ second range being the picks so that team fights are less about whoever can land their OP and win every time...but that could just be me.
Now they'll really know, and beyond that people will finally begin to adjust to her as time goes on so that will help sort out "truly ridiculous" from just "strong".
And agreed on the long ass cooldowns. They will have to massively buff all the numbers to get people to play with that shit. It truly felt like in Alpha all heroic cooldowns (for the most part) were a bit longer than they are now...or at least the ones used.
I would kinda like to see heroics in the 80+ second range being the picks so that team fights are less about whoever can land their OP and win every time...but that could just be me.
RumblingRosco
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And people still won't take Pyroblast.
It's the optimal ult tho
They want people playing shields down more often.
racketpunch
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I like the increased CD on the ults and I hope more follow. As already mentioned, too many team fights are decided by ults.
Why they gotta do my boy Thrall like that?
Edit: I'm also extremely tired of constant Nova changes. Just leave her alone for awhile and concentrate on other heroes that have been ignored for quite some time.
Why they gotta do my boy Thrall like that?
Edit: I'm also extremely tired of constant Nova changes. Just leave her alone for awhile and concentrate on other heroes that have been ignored for quite some time.
I like the increased CD on the ults and I hope more follow. As already mentioned, too many team fights are decided by ults.
Why they gotta do my boy Thrall like that?
Edit: I'm also extremely tired of constant Nova changes. Just leave her alone for awhile and concentrate on other heroes that have been ignored for quite some time.
Having more teamfights where ults aren't up would be fine, but I'm worried that increasing the CD of too many will just cause both teams to avoid high level teamfights that much longer.
This is a good point and I'm not sure how I feel about it. I could definitely see it breaking that way.
I would really like to see ults either become more frequent or less frequent as a general rule, though. If they are going to be up for every team fight anyway, I'd rather them be up more and be less powerful if there's no way to make longer cooldowns work.
I guess I'm ultimately just kind of jaded on the "20 secs and my Stim Drone/Ancestral/whatever is up" and would rather see the fight come down to coordination and opportunity more than whoever has the most OP set of ults that game. And all of this is coming from QM/mid level perspective for what it's worth.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Well, there's the slight lightning shield dmg nerf, but I can't believe they didn't touch anything else.
I can confirm, Lunar Jaina's legs were so OP they might as well have been separate characters
I can confirm, Lunar Jaina's legs were so OP they might as well have been separate characters
Also, if they want mage Falstad to be a thing, they need to do more work than that. Secret Weapon is SO good, even when you don't pick any other AA talent its worth taking because it's just freaking insane damage.
They need to change the level 1 stacking talent to make mage Faltsad a thing - make it so it triggers off Boomerang, make it increase all his damaging abilities, increase it to +2 per hit - whatever, it just needs more.
And, as we've said for ages, scrap overdrive and bake it into his abilities.
They need to change the level 1 stacking talent to make mage Faltsad a thing - make it so it triggers off Boomerang, make it increase all his damaging abilities, increase it to +2 per hit - whatever, it just needs more.
And, as we've said for ages, scrap overdrive and bake it into his abilities.
Wait, which talent was Astral Presence again? I can't look it up atm and don't remember.
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