When I saw they mentioned balance changes I was hoping Uther would get some love... he got armor.
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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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When I saw they mentioned balance changes I was hoping Uther would get some love... he got armor.
scoobs
Member
To be fair also said it's first of many changes to come.
I really hate the Zarya nerfs. They're walking a very fine line here.
Drafting Sylvanas and then illidan on BoE is pure dumb. You need to guarantee the early immortals otherwise you get crushed, and Illidan is not an early game hero.
WonderRade
Member
so should iknow who team freedom is, i dont recognize any of the names. Yet they are taking murlocs... i mean astral... i mean tempo to town
Yeah, people are making a case for it being THE L20 to use.
You have to last round him. If he's picked early it's real easy to shut him down.
jaundicejuice
Member
The new cd reduction for Guillotine helps but it's still like trying to land Deep Breathing with a nearly three times as long a cool down.
I really only take Guillotine over Tazdingo if there's a blind heavy line-up that renders the damage and invulnerability completely useless.
I really only take Guillotine over Tazdingo if there's a blind heavy line-up that renders the damage and invulnerability completely useless.
jaundicejuice
Member
scoobs
Member
Just won a game versus a god-tier Chromie on Braxis who did 100,000 hero damage in an 18 minute game (cuz that hero is fucking well designed). We got their core to 23% early on, proceeded to wipe and feed continuously until they were at our core and got it to 1% when we deleted the Chromie pro the second before he was about to auto attack our core to win. We wiped them and ran down and won. God it felt good.
Also I was playing Tassadar, and was 2nd in damage behind Chromie. W build Archon 4 lyfe
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK CHROMIE
Also I was playing Tassadar, and was 2nd in damage behind Chromie. W build Archon 4 lyfe
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Someone needs to post live commentary. They don't have WiFi in the hospital I'm staying at.
dig giving tricked the work, 2-0 right now
3rd game starting on towers w/
dig: etc, arthas, jaina, tychus, bw
tricked: rehgar, valla, rag, zera, tyrael
arthas has been prioritized by dig, and tychus has been figured in heavily due to ppl running so many warriors (fp, bans), etc. also has heavy prioritization in this series
3rd game starting on towers w/
dig: etc, arthas, jaina, tychus, bw
tricked: rehgar, valla, rag, zera, tyrael
arthas has been prioritized by dig, and tychus has been figured in heavily due to ppl running so many warriors (fp, bans), etc. also has heavy prioritization in this series
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I was about to ask solo Tyrael when I realised Rag is run as an off tank just as much as melee carry.
It's a bit sad that player quality is still that disparate. Outside the top 3 or 4 you need someone like adrd doing crazy stuff to make them sweat.
It's a bit sad that player quality is still that disparate. Outside the top 3 or 4 you need someone like adrd doing crazy stuff to make them sweat.
tbh the skill disparity doesnt seem too high, dig is just more practiced and getting better drafts, shotcalling more tight as well
it doesn't help that valla went q build, it's not bad w/ rag and zera backing you up but it's not a meaningful build against their comp
tricked winning right now w/ lvl advantage and good dives, cannon count is dig:28 tricked:16, not too much of a lead in that area
dig comp very dependent on mosh/cleanse combo, ancestral is really good against their comp w/ their long cds, i really hope valla gets frost arrow
dig ahead now, the moshes are very decisive
vall got frost arrow but they are too behind now from eating every single mosh that comes out, waddya know etc is great against 4 melee
tricked just had a beautiful team fight to save themselves from losing (they are at 4 shots) w/ vp coming off cd during the fight, they opt to not immediately take shrine in order to get exp back (18 to 18 now), but dig is not dumb and go straight for mercs
chat is going ham about them not capping, but dont understand that they are trying to prevent a multi spawn shrine against a team w/ a global, they lose in the end tho good try
dig 3-0 in da series
it doesn't help that valla went q build, it's not bad w/ rag and zera backing you up but it's not a meaningful build against their comp
tricked winning right now w/ lvl advantage and good dives, cannon count is dig:28 tricked:16, not too much of a lead in that area
dig comp very dependent on mosh/cleanse combo, ancestral is really good against their comp w/ their long cds, i really hope valla gets frost arrow
dig ahead now, the moshes are very decisive
vall got frost arrow but they are too behind now from eating every single mosh that comes out, waddya know etc is great against 4 melee
tricked just had a beautiful team fight to save themselves from losing (they are at 4 shots) w/ vp coming off cd during the fight, they opt to not immediately take shrine in order to get exp back (18 to 18 now), but dig is not dumb and go straight for mercs
chat is going ham about them not capping, but dont understand that they are trying to prevent a multi spawn shrine against a team w/ a global, they lose in the end tho good try
dig 3-0 in da series
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The skill disparity in EU and NA is most about the amount of heroes any one player can play at a certain level. The MVPRiches carries of both regions have been disappointing or have adjusted.
Thanks for the commentary.
Thanks for the commentary.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I hate playing on towers but I'm not sure on how I view it in competitive. Leads in objebtive don't seem to mean nearly as much as they don't contribute to any experience advantages and it has much less of an inevitability. At 1 health on the core you still don't have to fear any real backdoor. Structures never go permanently down and minion waves don't really accomplish anything.
The actual ending is also very anticlimactic, so much so that I wish it ended on the actual capping being successful instead of the shots landing.
The actual ending is also very anticlimactic, so much so that I wish it ended on the actual capping being successful instead of the shots landing.
I often wonder if I like listening to Bakery talk because his accent is as strong as mine, or if I actually really like his accent. It's hard to tell.
You all right? How serious? I didn't realize part of your absence was a hospital stay. That's awful. Hope everything turns out well!
You all right? How serious? I didn't realize part of your absence was a hospital stay. That's awful. Hope everything turns out well!
towers game get pretty hype as a viewer, but I don't really enjoy playing it (warhead too)
i gotta say tho, currently the games in eu are much better than na
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
No need to worry. Was a scheduled procedure and almost plastic in nature.
Kind of like warhead. Boss is super easy to do and people rarely expect it.
I vacillate on whether I enjoy Towers as a player or not. We do well on it IIRC, but I honestly find it to be a little annoying due to there being only one real way to win.
I've definitely got Warhead and Garden on the bottom of my list, though. Enjoy Tomb and Infernal Shrines the most probably.
That's good to hear!
I've definitely got Warhead and Garden on the bottom of my list, though. Enjoy Tomb and Infernal Shrines the most probably.
That's good to hear!
Yeah for me top 5 are
Tomb
Sky temple
Infernal
Braxis
Boe
And a special shoutout to booty bay, the map only really gets annoying when ur team focuses on coins and turn ins
Used to be pretty into cursed hallow but the boss stuff gets pretty boring. I actually enjoy garden but i never seem to queue into it
Tomb
Sky temple
Infernal
Braxis
Boe
And a special shoutout to booty bay, the map only really gets annoying when ur team focuses on coins and turn ins
Used to be pretty into cursed hallow but the boss stuff gets pretty boring. I actually enjoy garden but i never seem to queue into it
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I rank maps by how much people seem to get them in scrub league.
Which means dragon shire is trash tier. There's just something about that map.
Spider, BoE, Shrines, Cursed Hollow, Warhead, even Sky Temple all need minimal explaining if at all.
Braxis, Booty Bay, DS, Garden are hell.
Which means dragon shire is trash tier. There's just something about that map.
Spider, BoE, Shrines, Cursed Hollow, Warhead, even Sky Temple all need minimal explaining if at all.
Braxis, Booty Bay, DS, Garden are hell.
oh i really like dshire too
i think lower lvls have trouble w/ it cuz the decision making is poor and triangle bush control is not prioritized (constant movement is very huge on this map)
and lane tunneling ofc
a lot of ppl would consider dshire a poor map for globals since it's small, but it's actually one of the best due to there only really being one vertical lane
i think lower lvls have trouble w/ it cuz the decision making is poor and triangle bush control is not prioritized (constant movement is very huge on this map)
and lane tunneling ofc
a lot of ppl would consider dshire a poor map for globals since it's small, but it's actually one of the best due to there only really being one vertical lane
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Dshire is a fine map it's just not suited to people that still do a 2-2-1 split on every map with next to no roaming.
The worst is when people split to cap both shrines unaware of the opponents position then get picked off by a deathball. The thought to just make sure they can deny the objective doesn't register when you can tunnel vision.
Almost the same issue on Braxis. Just hold 1 point, if you can't get the other asap. Nope gotta brawl till you lose.
The worst is when people split to cap both shrines unaware of the opponents position then get picked off by a deathball. The thought to just make sure they can deny the objective doesn't register when you can tunnel vision.
Almost the same issue on Braxis. Just hold 1 point, if you can't get the other asap. Nope gotta brawl till you lose.
Expecting randos to do something smart... hahaha..ha...ha.....
TheSadRanger
Banned
Been playing a bit of Valeera lately, kinda sucks that she doesnt build combo points on large pve enemies.
Was playing her on BoE in qm and my immortal dmg felt like a wet sock.
Was playing her on BoE in qm and my immortal dmg felt like a wet sock.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
But randoms do pick up on stuff even in scrub league. People know to wait out the immortal jump for instance, hence why that's one of the good ones.
Dragon Shire is one of the oldest maps yet people in scrub league still suck at it.
scoobs
Member
So ya... I like the new tass. Here's the build I'm running that I mostly copied from HORSEPANTS stream, but made some slight changes that I prefer. Damage Tass is a beast.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The fuck Misfits lost a game to cris team playing sucks former diamond skin? Only saw the result on twitter.
Valeera's zero-sustain like Samuro/Greymane, right?