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Hex: Shards of Fate MMOTCG - Closed Beta Thread
- Thread starter ultron87
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Friday Update
Next patch is a QoL patch. Auction house will come later on (as in not next patch).
Swiss Booster Draft is coming next patch.
https://hextcg.com/hex-update-upcoming-features/
Next patch is a QoL patch. Auction house will come later on (as in not next patch).
Swiss Booster Draft is coming next patch.
https://hextcg.com/hex-update-upcoming-features/
JustProgress
Member
Markoff_Chaney
Member
Much gratitude to IllumiNate for the key.
Client is up to date and now to pick a starter pack and dig in to some metagame reading!
Thank You, again, IllumiNate.
-EDIT-
The game is fantastic. Picked the Orcs and thinking about grabbing the Dwarves as well, but the humans seem to be quite nice too. I signed up for VIP after a few matches. I opened my weekly booster instead of saving for draft like a b00n, but just wanted to crack a pack...
I've had some issues with the AI just stopping in the middle of a game and never continuing, but, with humans, it seems to play well. Underlying mechanics are like a familiar song's refrain, but there's more than just a clone of a great game in a digital framework going on here.
My keep name is Markovia if anyone sees me in game and wants an easy win against a starter deck. I kind of want to get other starters just so I can try different deck ideas, Just like MtG...
Thanks again!
Client is up to date and now to pick a starter pack and dig in to some metagame reading!
Thank You, again, IllumiNate.
-EDIT-
The game is fantastic. Picked the Orcs and thinking about grabbing the Dwarves as well, but the humans seem to be quite nice too. I signed up for VIP after a few matches. I opened my weekly booster instead of saving for draft like a b00n, but just wanted to crack a pack...
I've had some issues with the AI just stopping in the middle of a game and never continuing, but, with humans, it seems to play well. Underlying mechanics are like a familiar song's refrain, but there's more than just a clone of a great game in a digital framework going on here.
My keep name is Markovia if anyone sees me in game and wants an easy win against a starter deck. I kind of want to get other starters just so I can try different deck ideas, Just like MtG...
Thanks again!
The game is fun but I really have no incentive to play at all. As a competitive player, what am I even collecting cards for? To enter $3 constructed tournaments that take up 3 hours of my time? Proving Grounds are way too casual. I think the priorities on feature completion is way out of line. Auction House and Trading are next and that's great but after that they go straight to the other big things that they announced which are honestly ways away and too irrelevant. Something like Ranked Matchmaking that every competitive video game has is quite far away in their to-do list too according to HEXRex and that's really stupid.
The members on the official forums wouldn't understand because they only know the MTG experience but I assume a video game forum like neogaf would. It's just archaic to not have some sort of ranked matchmaking considering how much incredibly simpler it is to do than the other features announced and how efficient it is in giving players incentive to keep logging on to reach the top of the ladder. Hearthstone knew this and did it before their dungeons which are soon to release and even in early closed beta released with a hidden rating system before they created their leagues.
The members on the official forums wouldn't understand because they only know the MTG experience but I assume a video game forum like neogaf would. It's just archaic to not have some sort of ranked matchmaking considering how much incredibly simpler it is to do than the other features announced and how efficient it is in giving players incentive to keep logging on to reach the top of the ladder. Hearthstone knew this and did it before their dungeons which are soon to release and even in early closed beta released with a hidden rating system before they created their leagues.
Like I said, It takes barely any time at all to create even with their coding inexperience and creates the most satisfying result for game activity for such little time spent. People are so obsessed over "being legend" in HS or before that being "Top 50". Same with ELO medals in LoL or any other game. More people on the game = more features tested and bugs found + more reason to buy from AH = progress on the game smoothing. More AH use also means more $$$ for them.
piratepwnsninja
Member
I don't think you're in a position to make a statement like this. Even if you have engineering experience, you don't know what their priorities are, why they are what they are, their code base, and exactly what their ideas are on ranking/ELO.
- I do not know their priorities but I think what they have revealed of them is off.
- They don't need to express their ideas on elo/ranking because you first implement a substitute system and then further down the road implement a more complete ranked experience after a more complete game release.
I can't really see the absence of it defended if it's not being worked on. I have no idea on that either because I can't go to their Wednesday game and ask myself when they are actually open on their development. Some sort of matchmaking algorithm is something present in every modern competitive video game (except some FPS games run on user servers..) at the earliest stages of public testing. Well MTGO doesn't so grats to them on being tied with Wizards there.
- They don't need to express their ideas on elo/ranking because you first implement a substitute system and then further down the road implement a more complete ranked experience after a more complete game release.
I can't really see the absence of it defended if it's not being worked on. I have no idea on that either because I can't go to their Wednesday game and ask myself when they are actually open on their development. Some sort of matchmaking algorithm is something present in every modern competitive video game (except some FPS games run on user servers..) at the earliest stages of public testing. Well MTGO doesn't so grats to them on being tied with Wizards there.
Markoff_Chaney
Member
The game as a whole is lacking in most categories. For example,I do think that the architecture of the client is solid, except AI is currently severely lacking and bugs out which makes me worry on the MMO side. However, the base mechanics and the implementation of the "just one more dueling renewable rainbow resource field strategerizing turn based collectible card game" is rock solid. So, as something that understands, presents and implements the Game, to me, as a player, it excels.
As long as the core is good, I feel the rest can be built around it. Like a good deck. Find the core mechanic and build around it. The community, in game at least, seems like a relatively healthy one too.
I expect more is coming. That is also the developers' hope, is to provide more. The fact that they received more than they thought they needed to produce the game gives me hope as well. As far as the lawsuit goes, well... I know I spent money on the game and wanted to, hoping in some small way I could support their defense.
I am looking forward to the realization of what this game can provide.
As long as the core is good, I feel the rest can be built around it. Like a good deck. Find the core mechanic and build around it. The community, in game at least, seems like a relatively healthy one too.
I expect more is coming. That is also the developers' hope, is to provide more. The fact that they received more than they thought they needed to produce the game gives me hope as well. As far as the lawsuit goes, well... I know I spent money on the game and wanted to, hoping in some small way I could support their defense.
I am looking forward to the realization of what this game can provide.
JustProgress
Member
Yeah as far as features go, I'm out until AH and then even then I don't even think I'll play very much. Burned through all my KS rewards, and I just can't bring myself to spend more money on the game in this state. Development is so fucking slow, I'll just ignore the game (or try to) until it's more complete.
You mean concubunnies and then just give to the battle hoppers? Yeah that should work well. Get the battle hopper generating champ for extra wins.
I'm a big fan of battle hopper generating with command towers I'd add those for extra fun.
You mean concubunnies and then just give to the battle hoppers? Yeah that should work well. Get the battle hopper generating champ for extra wins.
I'm a big fan of battle hopper generating with command towers I'd add those for extra fun.
by bunnies I mean shin'hare
so just pick the 0/1 bunny as the target of the oath to give all of them +2/+2 per oath in play.by bunnies I mean shin'hare
Yeah, that's a battle hopper
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Reggie is a scumbag. *I love that card*
https://hextcg.com/friday-update-the-near-future/#more-6414
Also a way of earning PVP cards for free? A few at least I guess, for the starter decks so people can at least start messing around without paying.
Auction House tentatively scheduled for June 18th
https://hextcg.com/friday-update-the-near-future/#more-6414
Also a way of earning PVP cards for free? A few at least I guess, for the starter decks so people can at least start messing around without paying.
Not yet, but they said in the same update they'll also include some AI challenges so people can earn cards for free.
I will be giving away an Alternate Art Ozawa on my stream tonight in 8 hours and 40 minutes from this post time.
www.twitch.tv/hexedhavoc
Don't miss it!
www.twitch.tv/hexedhavoc
Don't miss it!
http://www.zonammorpg.com/2014/06/02/repartimos-100-claves-para-la-beta-de-hex/
For Beta keys if someone is interested
For Beta keys if someone is interested
Cool although I hope we see constructed tournaments and actually get to open our chests and whatnot first. So when Set 2 comes out are we going to start getting Set 2 card on VIP, I wonder?
JustProgress
Member
...really? Set 2 before the game is even half complete. Doesn't compute for me.
I dunno about that. Auction house is coming within two weeks here. So for the most part PvP will be complete by then. This is a PvP set so it makes some measure of sense to keep things fresh for the beta players.
The only thing that will really be left to complete after auction house is PvE, some fluff stuff and additional features like Ai deckbuilder and stuff like that.
JustProgress
Member
Um, trading for one, and doubleback. Think about doubleback and the engineering that goes into that. Now think about CZE, they don't exactly inspire confidence with their implementation.
Also, August is really soon. It took them nearly a year to get Set 1 in and relatively bug-free.
Doubleback is a promised feature but it's a fluff feature it doesn't actually effect gameplay. Trading I would assume comes with auction house but I have no idea obviously should be able at the very least to lowjack a trade through auction house.
Also, yes, development has been slow but we also just entered beta in april with tournaments and now just a few months later auction house is coming out. Trading could come at the same time as Set 2.
Cory Jones response on the issue.
Trading will be out so soon as you expect to be. AH will have some auction fee, if they put out soon the trading, people will simply trade the card instead of putting them on the AH.
I dunno about all that. Assuming you can't trade gold/platinum but only cards the two are going to serve different masters. Some people may not want to get other cards for their cards and some may not want to get gold/platinum for their cards. Different tools for different needs.
This game....THIS GAME!
It's been such a ball buster. I jumped in at King level and it is probably my biggest gaming regret from LAST YEAR. I don't think they made their kickstarter promises in bad faith and I do believe they are striving to create the project they pitched. That development time though - I can't believe we went from thinking we'd have Beta like 3 months or so after the KS finished!
I like PvP, but what sold me was the PvE aspect. Here we are, one year later, and there's nothing out yet. Had I known at the time, I would have jumped in at the $20 level. Yeah, TCGs are hard to make. I'm still doubtful that they'll fully realize all of the creative dreams they had at the start.
Oh well.
It's been such a ball buster. I jumped in at King level and it is probably my biggest gaming regret from LAST YEAR. I don't think they made their kickstarter promises in bad faith and I do believe they are striving to create the project they pitched. That development time though - I can't believe we went from thinking we'd have Beta like 3 months or so after the KS finished!
I like PvP, but what sold me was the PvE aspect. Here we are, one year later, and there's nothing out yet. Had I known at the time, I would have jumped in at the $20 level. Yeah, TCGs are hard to make. I'm still doubtful that they'll fully realize all of the creative dreams they had at the start.
Oh well.
Agreed on all counts. I even bought additional pledges at the 20$ level for my friends, and they've lost interest. I still can't believe that I thought I'd be playing this in alpha before Hearthstone. I got into the HS beta week 1, and have barely looked back.
centracore
Member
I started playing Hearthstone during the closed beta and was instantly hooked on it - I also found that I quite enjoy digital card games (who knew?). Lately I've been wanting something more in-depth than Hearthstone so I did some research and Hex looks like it might fill that role perfectly, in fact I'm pretty choked that I missed their original Kickstarter after reading about it. Anyways, I just received a key for the Hex beta, very excited to try it out!
The missing features has been really depressing but Cory is 100% right. The game will get a little bit more life from Set 1 with the auction house via constructed tourneys but that won't last long. My bigger concern is the testing of Set 2 and how reliable the new cards will be at launch.
AbundantChoice
Member
Drafting works well. Tournaments were buggy as @&#% when it first went Beta, but are pretty stable now (i've only had one tournament bug out in the last 2 weeks). I've never had to wait more than ~ 5 minutes for a draft to kick off, and the drafting interface and tournament interface are pretty logical and sensible. Just like any other community, I've had about 1/3 "chatty" opponents, 1/3 "glhf .... gg" opponents, and 1/3 who never type anything at all. No jerks so far, and only one whiner (manascrew this, if only he had drawn that, etc etc etc).
Hextcgpro isn't a horrible website to start with to learn about Hex and drafting strategies. But basically, the game plays almost exactly like Magic, so the same drafting strategies that work there work here. BREAD and all that. At least in my limited pool of drafts, I see way more people go white & blue than anything else, followed by red, then purple, with green coming up way behind in terms of frequency. But that's just my experience, and doesn't mean that's actually happening in the meta.
JustProgress
Member
Lol no shit. Haven't touched the game in a long while. Obvious that CZE needed/needs money, rushed to closed beta
I think the rush was to keep their fanbase interested, like the set 2 announcement.
IllumiNate
Member
I just log in twice a week for my free drafts. Currently playing Vintage Masters events on the evil mtgo.