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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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mrklaw

MrArseFace
VanMardigan said:
It's being rumored that MS will introduce a new sku tonight. A model with built in HD DVD, what do you guys think about that?


same price, nice. Higher price (they seem fond) not interested.

And it needs to be quieter/less prone to failure before I'd consider it.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
StoOgE said:
Unless all the SKU's are HD-DVD it doesnt really matter.

I agree that it won't have as big an impact if it's just one sku, but it would be a HUGE improvement over the add-on model I think. Even more so if they allow for better audio output.
 

jjasper

Member
VanMardigan said:
It's being rumored that MS will introduce a new sku tonight. A model with built in HD DVD, what do you guys think about that?

I don't think it would have any impact. But I would think about buying one if A) the price was right and B) if I could a decent amount of money selling my stand alone to fund the purchase.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
VanMardigan said:
I agree that it won't have as big an impact if it's just one sku, but it would be a HUGE improvement over the add-on model I think. Even more so if they allow for better audio output.

It would be an improvement.. and if its the same price as the existing Elite.. it would be a pretty good deal.

I doubt you will get TrueHD, DTS-MA or DD+ unless they redo the motherboard for the 360

Unless MS is willing to go HDDVD across the board its just not going to make a huge impact though. If MS put one in every single SKU this war could get *much* more interesting. In fact, I would think MS going HDDVD in all 360's (if prices remained the same) would ensure a two format future. I also think this is very very very unlikely.

I also doubt this rumor is true. I think the 4th SKU if anything is a cheaper model in the 250 dollar price range to replace the existing core.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Ignatz Mouse said:
I can't see them releaseing an HD-DVD internal model. Not so soon after the Elite.

thats my feeling. I think if they were going to do this, they would have done it with the elite.

I think this new SKU is on the other end of the spectrum (i.e. cheaper).

Plus, MS isnt dumb. Unless they put HDDVD on every single SKU and forced it on buyers (a la the PS3) it wont make a difference. Alot of BRD support is coming from PS3 owners who wanted the game system and got a BRD player as a side effect. Adding it to one SKU wont grow the userbase, it would apeal to the same people who are allready getting the add on.

And they arent putting the drive on every SKU unless the price difference is nominal between that and the DVD.. and unless Toshiba is eating that extra cost, the difference isnt nominal.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
StoOgE said:
Alot of BRD support is coming from PS3 owners who wanted a BRD player and justified the purchase by thinking, "hey, this BRD player has one or two good games!."

At least that was the case for me. :D
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
AstroLad said:
At least that was the case for me. :D

dont get me wrong, there are people that wanted a BRD player that got a PS3 primarily for that.. but alot of the support is coming from people going the other way around.
 

thaivo

Member
Well, I'd welcome a 360 with builtin HD-DVD... I wouldn't buy it, as I already have a stand alone, but every little helps. :)

I actually could see Toshiba subsidizing such a move, especially after their announcement of all TOSH laptops having HD-DVD. Although, I can't see it happening, as they should be concentrating on lowering the price rather than adding to it. Well, we'll find out tonight.
 

SRG01

Member
I think it's safe to say that, after MS's E3 presentation, that there won't be a built-in HD-DVD on the 360 anytime soon.
 
I can't be the only one sans Blu-Ray player that is happy to hear the Disney on XBL Marketplace news, right? This would be like PSN getting downloadable Universal movies in HD...

Disney movies in HD over XBL is never a bad thing IMO. Just another reason not to buy a PS3 :lol

Just kidding guys, I'm sure I'll get one before all is said and done...
 

rc213

Member
I can picture it now.

Toshiba: Calling up Microsoft, Hey we saw the great partnership with Disney. Did you guys put in a good word for us?

Microsoft: Yeah...Aren't you guys dead yet?

:lol
 
ChrisJames said:
I can't be the only one sans Blu-Ray player that is happy to hear the Disney on XBL Marketplace news, right? This would be like PSN getting downloadable Universal movies in HD...

Disney movies in HD over XBL is never a bad thing IMO. Just another reason not to buy a PS3 :lol

Just kidding guys, I'm sure I'll get one before all is said and done...

Yes, you enjoy your hercules and the emperors new groove, we will sit and enjoy the pirates movies as well as disneys upcoming offerings..
 

rc213

Member
OokieSpookie said:
Yes, you enjoy your hercules and the emperors new groove, we will sit and enjoy the pirates movies as well as disneys upcoming offerings..

I hope those show up sooner or later as well. I mean wouldn't Sony want those as well once they finalize and launch their Movie Marketplace?
 
OokieSpookie said:
Yes, you enjoy your hercules and the emperors new groove, we will sit and enjoy the pirates movies as well as disneys upcoming offerings..

I could give two shits about the pirates movies. Yeah, they are probably amazing eye candy, but as movies they wouldn't be anything without Jonny Depp. They are insanely bloated movies that could have gotten the actual story across in 1/4 of the time the movie takes.

I'm sure they'll show up on the Marketplace pretty soon anyways... and if not oh well. Like I said, I'm sure I'll own a PS3 or other Blu-Ray player before all is said and done.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
I was really skeptical about the Movie Marketplace, but in a pinch after running out of Netflix BRs, it was great for my wife and I to browse and rent a few HD movies so simply. Quality was nice as well. Still overpriced enough that I wouldn't use it regularly but not as worthless as it may have once seemed.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
so, apply for a SonyStyle credit card and get $100 credit to the account.

Then buy a PS3 from Amazon for $499 including a free bluray remote and a free copy of memento. With the credit it'll only cost you $399.

Then get 5 more blurays free.

So a net cost of $399, and you get 6 blurays and a remote. Not too shabby.
 

Petrarca

Banned
mrklaw said:
so, apply for a SonyStyle credit card and get $100 credit to the account.

Then buy a PS3 from Amazon for $499 including a free bluray remote and a free copy of memento. With the credit it'll only cost you $399.

Then get 5 more blurays free.

So a net cost of $399, and you get 6 blurays and a remote. Not too shabby.

That's a really good deal. Now you have some extra money for POTC1&2, Casino Royale, 300, Blood Diamond, etc

...enjoy Blu-ray!
 

Smidget

Member
mrklaw said:
so, apply for a SonyStyle credit card and get $100 credit to the account.

Then buy a PS3 from Amazon for $499 including a free bluray remote and a free copy of memento. With the credit it'll only cost you $399.

Then get 5 more blurays free.

So a net cost of $399, and you get 6 blurays and a remote. Not too shabby.

I just applied for a Sonystyle card. Too bad you have to wait for it to come in to buy items from somewhere other then Sonystyle.com so I'll probably miss the remote/Memento (i think it's Resident Evil Apoc now). But either way I'll get the 5 movies and I'll probably eBay/Half.com most of them and get a PS3 for even less :x
 

yacobod

Banned
got my ps3 + memento in the mail yesterday from amazon

i should be getting the remote, casino royale, apocalypto, crank, kingdom of heaven, and black hawk down today

cant wait to demo them
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Oni Jazar said:
I didn't watch the MS conference did they say that Disney's movies were in HD?

Are there SD movies on the video marketplace? I've never looked at the movies, just TV shows and there are SD shows, but I don't know if the same goes for the movies.
 
All of the movies on Marketplace are in SD, and maybe a third of those are available to watch in HD (but they take a long time to download and take up a ton of space ~7 GB).

Disney movies are available in HD on the Marketplace right now. The Queen, Deja Vu, and some others like Fox and the Hound 2 :lol are up.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
ChrisJames said:
Disney movies are available in HD on the Marketplace right now. The Queen, Deja Vu, and some others like Fox and the Hound 2 :lol are up.

Aren't The Queen and Deja Vu on BRD?
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
DeathNote said:
Did Microsoft mention HD-DVD at all during their press conference? Like that it even exists?

I don't think they did, but is it all that much of a surprise?
 
Tartan Video UK have shown their support for Blu-ray by announcing the release of Paul Verhoven’s Black Book and Ingmar Bergman’s The Seventh Seal for the 27th August and if that wasn't enough, Park Chan-Wook’s Oldboy will arrive on the 24th September.

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65295

This is great news on paper, but Tartan do not have the greatest reputation in their transfers so it would be worth waiting for the reviews on the discs.
 

Doctor_No

Member
broadwayrock said:
Tartan Video UK have shown their support for Blu-ray by announcing the release of Paul Verhoven’s Black Book and Ingmar Bergman’s The Seventh Seal for the 27th August and if that wasn't enough, Park Chan-Wook’s Oldboy will arrive on the 24th September.

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65295

This is great news on paper, but Tartan do not have the greatest reputation in their transfers so it would be worth waiting for the reviews on the discs.

Whoa! That's some incredible news.
 

Petrarca

Banned
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Chemo

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
Go Blu Pac-Mans!
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Anyone know the major titles that were released for the week this data represents off the top of their heads? Going back through this beast of a thread is a freaking nightmare...
 

yacobod

Banned
Ignatz Mouse said:
Go Blu Pac-Mans!

It will be interesting to see how the coming weeks shake out with the PS3 surge (however big it ends up being).


well i just picked up 7 discs with my ps3 this week

i will say i was really impressed with both casino royale and apocalypto, they are among some of the best hd discs i have seen so far, i think the guy on highdefdigest totally dropped the ball on apocalypto by only giving it 4/5 stars on PQ

i still have to check out crank, both pirates, kingdom of heaven, and blackhawk down, but from all the reviews i've read they are all near the top of the best PQ on bluray so they should all be a treat
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Got my freedom vol. 1

Looks great. The web features work on the add-on, though the downloads take too long. The PiP stuff is pretty nice too. Good demo disc for HD DVD in terms of features and stuff. Too pricey (I bought it cause I got an extra $5 off at Amazon).
 

jjasper

Member
VanMardigan said:
When does the 5 free movie stuff get added to the charts. When they ship the movies out to people?

I doubt they will ever actually be on the charts (I don't think HD DVDs were either) they are shipped directly from the companies and these track store sales (I think)
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
I'm pretty disappointed MS didn't at least announce a price drop for the HD DVD drive or.........something. With Sony's "value shift/kansas city shuffle" possibly putting the 80gb at $499 this year, it seems I'm quite a ways away from a $399 Ps3. Perhaps this time next year. If I can resists MGS4, that is.
 

djkimothy

Member
VanMardigan said:
I'm pretty disappointed MS didn't at least announce a price drop for the HD DVD drive or.........something. With Sony's "value shift/kansas city shuffle" possibly putting the 80gb at $499 this year, it seems I'm quite a ways away from a $399 Ps3. Perhaps this time next year. If I can resists MGS4, that is.

Yah, Sony ****ed up with its phantom price drop, however I think it shows what Microsoft views of this HD media business. They were quick to pimp their latest online offerings.

Top 10 sales for everyone's interest.

1. Ghost Rider 100
2. PotC: DMC 90.46
3. Planet Earth Blu-ray 82.35
4. The Patriot 82.30
5. PotC: CotBP 80.00
6. Apocolypto 75.26
7. Casino Royale 75.05
8. Bridge to Terabithia 73.83
9. Blood Diamond HD DVD 70.10
10. Planet Earth HD DVD 56.94

No big drop off big time.

PS, who the hell is BUYING Ghost Rider? Rental at best. :/
 
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