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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Raistlin

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djkimothy said:
Rivalries aside, and in honour of the Grim Reality thread in the gaming section... I give you...

HDM.jpg

:lol
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
Well, I think Ookie's question is dubious, since he doesn't define "give up" but at the saem time, we've gone over why this isn't analogous to console war discussion several times now. Unless you support the notion of format-exclusive media outside of videogames, it's dumb to have two long-term formats (unless there are absolutely no exclusives at all).

yeah it was kind of vague I guess.
My main point is that for high def of any kind to even dent dvd, the only hope is to have ONE format.
I still personally know masses of people that refuse to go high def because of the back and forth bit and no winner (though some of the recent horror releases have swayed some )
I wasn't aware that somewhere in the sea of things in this thread that everyone has decided that the formats can coexist ( though I have to believe that if HD were ahead all of the sudden you would see a certain few people jump in and say that BR is doomed and they told us all so blah blah ).
I suppose we really have nothing in our power to do anything about this format bit, but I do have to say I am still quite hostile at Paramount for locking a stalemate when things could have been on it's way to a conclusion.

SO I guess what I mean by "give up" would be ...ah hell I do not know.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Hey, so is the BR version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy worth buying? It's the only thing that really stood out on Virgin's (meager) HD disc shelves. (I suppose Planet Earth too, but the last time I checked they were out of stock.)
 

Oni Jazar

Member
xsarien said:
Hey, so is the BR version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy worth buying? It's the only thing that really stood out on Virgin's (meager) HD disc shelves. (I suppose Planet Earth too, but the last time I checked they were out of stock.)

If you like the movie then definitely get the disc. PQ is not super amazing awesome but it's a great transfer.
 
OokieSpookie said:
SO I guess what I mean by "give up" would be ...ah hell I do not know.

:lol



Anyway, I agree with you, dual format is bad for business, and no comparison to the console market is going to make me change my mind about that.
 
VanMardigan said:
Details of Onkyo DV-HD805 HD DVD Player

onkyoDV-HD805ft.jpg


Prices: $899 MSRP (North America) / 999€ RRP (Germany & Austria)
Retail Availability: Fall 2007 (North America and Europe)

Great pricing Onkyo. $899 / 999€ sounds about right..... :/ The Euro price includes tax, but still that's ~861€ ($1220!) vs. $899.
 

Forsete

Member
The Lookout wasnt a very good movie. :/


I pre-ordered some movies today.

Spider-Man Collection
Cars
Sunshine
Pirates 3

I was going to order Die Hard but I couldnt find the box.. They are coming out with a box right?
All they had were the seperate releases of Die Hard, Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 4.0
 

NR1

Member
kruskev said:
anyone have "the lookout" on BR? I am thinking about getting it but wanted to know how the transfer was.

I bought it back when it came out, and I think the transfer is quite nice. The film isn't exactly flashy with its camera work, but it does have solid picture quality.

It’s a good film, but it’s not for everyone. A suspence film that keeps you wondering even though its a little predictable at times. The entire time I was watching it, I couldn't help but be reminded of "The Family Stone." The plots aren't anything alike, but the atmosphere was very similar. Maybe because they are both set around Christmas time, but Christmas isn't the theme of either film...
 

Cheebs

Member
Forsete said:
The Lookout wasnt a very good movie. :/


I pre-ordered some movies today.

Spider-Man Collection
Cars
Sunshine
Pirates 3

I was going to order Die Hard but I couldnt find the box.. They are coming out with a box right?
All they had were the seperate releases of Die Hard, Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 4.0
Do NOT get die hard 4 on blu-ray. It is the rated only verision. Unrated for some odd reason is a DVD exclusive.
 
Cheebs said:
Do NOT get die hard 4 on blu-ray. It is the rated only verision. Unrated for some odd reason is a DVD exclusive.

I can understand this somewhat, but honestly a few fucks and whatnot really does not always = better movie.
 

MechDX

Member
Wal Mart is starting to receive the Toshiba HDA2-W players at stores now with a retail of $192.

I guess we will see if the talk of "sub $200 players at a B&M location will help move the format" are true.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
MechDX said:
Wal Mart is starting to receive the Toshiba HDA2-W players at stores now with a retail of $192.

They're starting to get the blu ray players in too. I was at my local walmart Friday and I saw 2 Sony bdp 3000 (I think thats the model) on pallet being brought to the electronics dept. First time seeing them and I'm in there at least once a week. I dont know what the retail price is as they were just being brought to the floor they didnt even have a shelf space yet.
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
OokieSpookie said:
I can understand this somewhat, but honestly a few fucks and whatnot really does not always = better movie.


I agree. Having and seeing the movie in hi-def outweighs a few swears.
 

Cheebs

Member
CajoleJuice said:
Does that bitch actually die when she gets hit by a fucking truck going 40 mph in the DVD version?
Hopefully. Apparently the new cut lets us SEE the guy go into that "grinder" in that one scene, not just seeing Willis's reaction.


Edit: to the post above, 35+ fucks isn't a "few". It vastly alters how John McClane gives his dialouge. The film was obviously filmed as R since all the fucks were in it originally. I rather see the original director's intention when filming it which is obviously a hard R.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
If HD-DVD players are truly going to go below $200 this Christmas, I might be inclined to get one. My standard DVD player is kind of having issues with the power button, and, well, I'm kind of in the camp that subscribes to the silly theory of name recognition ultimately helping HD-DVD win. People know HD, people know DVD, therefore they know what HD-DVD is (Hey, know what? Silly it may be, it still makes more sense to me than average consumers caring about the technical specifications of the formats themselves).

And if it doesn't win, there's always my PS3.
 
xsarien said:
If HD-DVD players are truly going to go below $200 this Christmas, I might be inclined to get one. My standard DVD player is kind of having issues with the power button, and, well, I'm kind of in the camp that subscribes to the silly theory of name recognition ultimately helping HD-DVD win. People know HD, people know DVD, therefore they know what HD-DVD is (Hey, know what? Silly it may be, it still makes more sense to me than average consumers caring about the technical specifications of the formats themselves).

And if it doesn't win, there's always my PS3.

Oddly enough alot of people are in the opposite camp and think that the HD-DVD name is what is hurting the format since it is too similar to DVD and many people seem to think that there is not as much of a difference between the two.
I think that was covered a bit way back on page....err....well way back a bit.
 

djkimothy

Member
xsarien said:
If HD-DVD players are truly going to go below $200 this Christmas, I might be inclined to get one. My standard DVD player is kind of having issues with the power button, and, well, I'm kind of in the camp that subscribes to the silly theory of name recognition ultimately helping HD-DVD win. People know HD, people know DVD, therefore they know what HD-DVD is (Hey, know what? Silly it may be, it still makes more sense to me than average consumers caring about the technical specifications of the formats themselves).

And if it doesn't win, there's always my PS3.

Apparently most don't.
 

Oni Jazar

Member
Oh shit Buy One Get One free Blu-ray offer applies to Amazon as well!

Order Summary
Items: $43.90
Shipping & Handling: $3.97
Promotion Applied: -$19.95

Total Before Tax: $27.92
Estimated Tax: $0.00


Amazon List:

Annapolis
Apocalypto
Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Pirates of the Carribean: Dead Man's Chest
King Arthur
Wild Hogs
Eight Below
Deja Vu
Guardian, The
Chicago
Prestige, The
Chicken Little
Pearl Harbor
Reign of Fire
Bridge to Terabithia
Dinosaur
Glory Road
Wild, The
Finding Neverland
Remember The Titan
Enemy of the State
Brothers Grimm
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
Invincible
Flightplan
Roving Mars
Gone in 60 Seconds
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Lookout
Sky High
Primevil
GI Jane
Ladder 49
Haunted Mansion
Great Raid
Dark Water
Goal
Casanova
 
Might pick up the 2 Pirates of the Carribean Blu-Ray's. A ?

Are there any plans to bring out a re-release anytime soon/boxset with more content? And what was the talk about framing/cropping issues with the Blu-Ray releases. Any truth to that?
 

MechDX

Member
Days like these... said:
They're starting to get the blu ray players in too. I was at my local walmart Friday and I saw 2 Sony bdp 3000 (I think thats the model) on pallet being brought to the electronics dept. First time seeing them and I'm in there at least once a week. I dont know what the retail price is as they were just being brought to the floor they didnt even have a shelf space yet.


$399.
 

p_xavier

Authorized Fister
OokieSpookie said:
Oddly enough alot of people are in the opposite camp and think that the HD-DVD name is what is hurting the format since it is too similar to DVD and many people seem to think that there is not as much of a difference between the two.
I think that was covered a bit way back on page....err....well way back a bit.

Exactly, my experience so far with friends and family has been that people understand that Blu-ray Disc is a new format, HD DVD not so much.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Ooh, nice deal. I got The Prestige + Apocalypto for $19 total shipped (b1g1 free, extra 10% from the old promotion, prime 2 day)
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
This is an incredibly basic question, and not completely HD-related, but seeing how much extra content is available through the web-enabled portion of the Transformers disc makes me want to have my A2 connected.

Right now, I have my cable modem that's hooked directly to my laptop. Period. What do I need to have the HD player always connected, too? Just a hub and another cable, or is there more to it?
 

maharg

idspispopd
What you need is most likely a router. Get a wifi one and turn off the wifi antenna if you decide to go that route. They're about the same price as non-wifi and you might want it in the future.

You pretty much can't buy hubs anymore, but that's a technicality. What you're thinking of is a switch, and it would not be enough to allow both to be online at once. Most likely they'd end up fighting over the one IP your cable modem gives you and they'd each work intermittently. Or only one would ever work.

A router takes the one IP you get from your service provider and talks to your two machines for you, translating their packets into one IP.
 

Crayon Shinchan

Aquafina Fanboy
maharg said:
What you need is most likely a router. Get a wifi one and turn off the wifi antenna if you decide to go that route. They're about the same price as non-wifi and you might want it in the future.

You pretty much can't buy hubs anymore, but that's a technicality. What you're thinking of is a switch, and it would not be enough to allow both to be online at once. Most likely they'd end up fighting over the one IP your cable modem gives you and they'd each work intermittently. Or only one would ever work.

A router takes the one IP you get from your service provider and talks to your two machines for you, translating their packets into one IP.

In other words, NAT is important!
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Cosmic Bus said:
This is an incredibly basic question, and not completely HD-related, but seeing how much extra content is available through the web-enabled portion of the Transformers disc makes me want to have my A2 connected.

Right now, I have my cable modem that's hooked directly to my laptop. Period. What do I need to have the HD player always connected, too? Just a hub and another cable, or is there more to it?

buy a router, they cost like 40 bucks.
 

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
captive said:
Thats exactly what i thought when they said it.

Im about 99% sure this big news means the following:

1) Studio stuff will be HD.
2) Maybe some stuff that they shoot locally will be HD. Not breaking new stuff though, more like those preplanned fluff pieces they film a week in advance.
3) Everything that they buy from Reuters, etc to show will be letterbox (probably about half of thier content).
4) Any breaking news or stuff they film that day/live shots will be 4:3 SD.

In other words, the uselessness that is CNNHD, but local!
 
Transformers HD-DVD review is up.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/1110/transformers.html

Reason for no HD Sound:

Indeed, I had the opportunity to attend a special 'Transformers' media event with Paramount late last week, and the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality.

So future versions will have the same sound unless the 51GB disc is available/compatible.

Blu-Ray version would have featured PCM Sound no doubt :(
 

methane47

Member
Rabid Wolverine said:
Transformers HD-DVD review is up.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/1110/transformers.html

Reason for no HD Sound:

Indeed, I had the opportunity to attend a special 'Transformers' media event with Paramount late last week, and the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality.

So future versions will have the same sound unless the 51GB disc is available/compatible.

Blu-Ray version would have featured PCM Sound no doubt :(

.... wow... thats sad
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
methane47 said:
.... wow... thats sad

awww...don't cry for us methane. We'll manage.........somehow:

high def digest review said:
it is hard to imagine any film taking a Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround track to its zenith better than 'Transformers.' This is one highly-aggressive experience. Discrete effects are constant and pounding, but the lack of subtlety here is exactly what fans want. Directionality, imaging, accuracy of localized effects, and the sheer depth of the soundfield are all fantastic stuff. Even the front soundstage is a stunner -- stereo effects are quite pronounced, and when the sounds ping-pong (as they do just about any time a robot transforms), it's just as cool as the first time you heard that lightsaber effect in 'Star Wars.' If I had had this disc when I was a twelve year-old kid, I don't I would have stopped playing it for months.

Also top-notch are all technical aspects of the mix. As you would expect, this is the kind of disc your subwoofer will devour. Even at moderate volume levels I was blown away by the sheer low frequencies churned out by my poor sub. Whether you're talking about the opening attack, the sequence with that weird sand Decepticon in the desert, or any sequence during the film's last 30 minutes, there's such a sustained low bass presence that it's almost like it's another character in the movie. The realism and texture to every sound -- from the effects to the score to the dialogue -- is pitch perfect. Volume issues are also, thankfully, not a problem -- I was truly shocked that I didn't have to reach for my remote once, as dialogue is leveled nicely throughout.

Five Stars out of Five on the Audio. I'll live. Somehow, I 'll get through this. :lol

Note that I'm not saying that the audio can't be improved upon (and the reviewer also says this), but what's there is apparently top-notch, so I'm definitely not complaining. I certainly never held off on a dvd before due to bad audio and I'm not an audiophile by any means, but if even a person who is reviewing this and knows what to listen for says it's pretty much perfect, I don't think anybody will have anything to complain about....unless they WANT to complain, which I'm sure some Blu Ray fans will want to do here anyway.
 

Ponn

Banned
MechDX said:
Wal Mart is starting to receive the Toshiba HDA2-W players at stores now with a retail of $192.

I guess we will see if the talk of "sub $200 players at a B&M location will help move the format" are true.

Does this have the two free movies packed in?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
I thought only the 3rd gen models had the two packed in, and by the name of that Walmart model, it seems to be 2nd gen. You should still be able to get the 5 free movie deal regardless.
 

NekoFever

Member
Strange that the capacity is an issue on Transformers when Top Gun (also from Paramount) has DD+, TrueHD, and DTS-ES; Pan's Labyrinth can fit DD+ and 7.1 DTS-HD MA with extras; even early titles like Superman Returns and Batman Begins manage DD+ and TrueHD without the benefit of a second disc to hold the extras.

But even so, five stars for a DD+ track. What exactly would they have given it had it included lossless audio?
 
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