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if there is any merit then this needs to be investigated. no matter the result.
Add this to voter suppression efforts removing over a million voters from the rolls (poor, minorities, and college students mostly) in swing states where she lost by a few tens of thousands and I 100% believe some consortium conspired to elect Trump.
Clinton conceded the night of the election. What are you talking about? This wasn't started by Clinton.Jesus.... take the L Clinton and move on.
Jesus.... take the L Clinton and move on.
"Trump's popularity soars"...as still the most unpopular president-elect in modern history. And those numbers have nowhere to go but down from here.
Where did you read that?
Holy shit
it's
happening
1 The gop would be on this like flies on shit if they lost.
2 We are not seeing whatever these experts are seeing that is making them call for action.
3 does anyone seriously believe the republicans are above tampering or being complicit with tampering?
Let's just take the L for the next 4 years.
Yeahhhh.
I love Hillary Clinton.
But challenging the result would cause more problems than it solves.
Let's just hope Mike Pence is actually the secret President of "domestic and foreign policy" and can moderate Trump's more ridiculous foreign policy ideas, as well as not fuck stuff up too bad domestically.
Take the fucking L democrats. Try again in 2018.
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negros great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another mans freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a more convenient season.
Jesus.... take the L Clinton and move on.
This is what I want to know. How do you recount something like this even?How would they even find out if it's true?
Even if you did that, there is no way of knowing the result on that piece of paper is not compromised, how do you verify the machine marked the right thing?Seems a bit heavy reading on mobile. But I take it you mean they found deficiencies?
I always thought if you use electronic, a voting receipt should be issued to be dropped in a ballot box as a backup. Not having that seems like a massive oversight.
Holy shit if it actually happens.
Holy shit
it's
happening
Of course there was. Its the only way he could've won, by cheating. I hope they can prove it.
For everyone saying "take the L" or "let it go". This was posted by Angelus Errare in the Electoral thread. Its a quote by MLK.
If she won and "Donald Trump mulling recounts, possibility of hacks (no proof)" was the thread, we'd be facepalming in unison
Did they check for a lurking variable that explains the correlation? Maybe more conservative/racist counties are more likely to use electronic voting machines.
She did take the L. This is from other people.
In the article, they state that they have no proof of hacking other than a discrepancy in the number of votes they expected her to get in areas with electronic voting. In Wisconsin, the areas with electronic voting are rural while the metro areas where she did well are paper.
According to this computer expert, Clinton received 7% fewer votes in areas with electronic rather than paper ballots. Rather than stating that she collapsed in rural areas across the US (which she did) they claim this 7% discrepancy is the result of hacking.
Great quote but hardly relevent to getting your hopes up over with something with no evidence. Not sure what your point is, if anything the media hyping pointless stuff like this is a nice distraction from the issues black folk face and may increasingly face under trumpFor everyone saying "take the L" or "let it go". This was posted by Angelus Errare in the Electoral thread. Its a quote by MLK.
And yet, he'd be asking for it, and probably most of the GOP would support him.
Haha. How cute that you think you need to explain this to me.
First of all, I'd like to tell you to calm down.
Secondly, I'm just stating my understanding of how statistical analysis works. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Third, you should work on not falling into the either-or fallacy, because it could very well be all these factors and ballot hacking that collectively caused Hillary to lose. Even if we had an accurate recount, and it did turn out that Hillary was missing votes, she could still lose and that's fine. It would still be good if abuse was exposed.
Everyone in these threads are always so freaking charged up.
I believe you're allowed to look at your receipt before you drop it in the box.Even if you did that, there is no way of knowing the result on that piece of paper is not compromised, how do you verify the machine marked the right thing?
Also congratulations you just went back to paper ballots but more expensive and with less control.
TBH, I think a recount should be done if only to verify if there was tampering or not by outside governments.
In the article, they state that they have no proof of hacking other than a discrepancy in the number of votes they expected her to get in areas with electronic voting. In Wisconsin, the areas with electronic voting are rural while the metro areas where she did well are paper.
According to this computer expert, Clinton received 7% fewer votes in areas with electronic rather than paper ballots. Rather than stating that she collapsed in rural areas across the US (which she did) they claim this 7% discrepancy is the result of hacking.
Jesus.... take the L Clinton and move on.
I'm not getting charged up at all. I'm just commenting on the fact that people are grasping at straws for why she may have lost. Nymag is essentially posting that these experts have no proof of hacking other than she underperformed in areas that she underperformed across the US. Thus they demand an investigation.
She lost these areas because she was an uninspiring candidate that got killed in rural America. Not because someone hacked these voting machines. Unless they hacked these voting machines across the entire US to make sure she lost all of these rural areas as well.