Hillary Clinton to CNN: "I will be the nominee"
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HUELEN10
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That's a problem though. People should be voting based on who she is, not the fact that's she merely isn't Trump.
In the general, I predict Trump will have a shift in talks to make voting for him something that huge winners like himself would do. If he gets the rust belt, and all those indie Ssanders supporters, things will be tight, and actual fight for the president.
I think this is definitely possible.
TemplaerDude
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And thus begins the worlds biggest unpopularity contest.
Why? To have a military pork funneling, pie in the sky rhetoric driven guy who allows free reign of his supporters to attack anybody who doesn't have his same "purity". Of course only on issues they care about. The best part is, the republicans wouldn't even need to lay down all the skeletons in bernies past, just point out, look at dem higher taxes. He'd make Dukakis look like a successful campaign.
Is this an honest post or are you sincerely unaware that it has been pointed out many many many many times already about how these hypothetical match-ups are extremely inaccurate because Bernie has never faced any kind of GOP attacks yet?
Vampire On Titus
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She's not wrong.
boiled goose
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Disagree with dropping out. He is now getting more press now that Republican primary is over. The more people hear his message, the better the country.
But yes, Hillary will be the nominee. Dont know why this is a headline
Fenderputty
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Half the democratic base? lol
He hasn't been on message for months.
jack_package_200
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Well Bernie's campaign essentially wrote off and insulted minority voters by calling them "low information voters" and saying the south shouldn't matter.
You can't win a Dem primary without the minority vote.
Boombloxer
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Nothing to hear at this point.
What message? That's it's okay to attack people because they didn't let you steal the will of the people?
excelsiorlef
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His message now is that the DNC is corrupt amd stealing the election from him.
NeuAscension
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If the DNC wants to take the hard line of self preservation and gamble in the general fine....
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The Autumn Wind
Shh, don't pop his ignorance bubble.
NoblesseOblige
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His message has gotten patently worse as time goes on, though.
Bel Marduk
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I love Bernie and would love this to happen but I don't know where you are getting your numbers but that's highly implausible.
jack_package_200
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its no longer about his message, its about dragging the DNC and those who don't agree with him down to his subterranean level. Calling everyone corrupt and evil and still demanding their support. Its the political equivalent of negging.
Yes it is. You clearly can't have an unbiased opinion on the matter so lets agree to disagree.
She is going to sway a lot of indies, and she is going to win in November. It's not even going to be a challenge.
It's just a running joke.
Outdoor Miner
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Finally having a liberal Supreme Court and a continuation of Obama's policies (more or less), I would argue that a Hillary win is far from a loss for us. Maybe for non-Americans who only follow our politics to get their entertainment fix.
j_k_redtail
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She's right. June 14 can't come soon enough.
Absoludacrous
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I would agree with this if his message hadn't shifted tone. It meant something more in the beginning when people were just finding out about him and he had a shot in the race. Now it's over though, so for anyone unfamiliar with him all they're seeing is things like NV and the vitriol towards Clinton. His actual, important messages are getting lost in the crowd.
Unknown Soldier
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In a race between Kodos and Kang, no matter who wins, we lose.
Or I guess to properly use the source, it's Alien vs. Predator.
EatinOlives
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PUMAs said the same thing at this time last year toward Obama. And yet that's exactly what happened 5/12 months later.
boiled goose
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Did you watch Tuesdays speech?
Not everyone follows the primary as closely as you do.
linkandzelda
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Sure they should be but your electoral system is beyond flawed so the only two viable candidates it spat out are disliked by the majority of the population.
I agree about Trump's chances of winning though (IMO, unfortunately), I think people are getting far too complacent.
Dash_Riprock
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The only message getting out now is that he is a butthurt sore loser who kinda condemns his supporters making death threats and acting like children except not really cause they're the REAL victims.
Actions speak louder than words (or in his case, inaction).
Shouldn't you be on Reddit?. There is no truth here on NeoGAF after all.
brainchild
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More than that. The more votes he gets, the more clout he attains in order to affect the platform by the time gets to the convention.
This is a blatant lie. His rallies have been nearly identical for a year now.
jack_package_200
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Because Hillary and Trump are the same fucking person right?
Also this
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Yes because having a Liberal Supreme Court for the first time in decades is us losing?
Who said people aren't? She's a great candidate. Pretty much closest you'll get to a third Obama term.
Some great press recently, that's for sure!
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The Autumn Wind
Really incredible how this has somehow become popular rhetoric. Sanders and his supporters have really poisoned the well here. I've lost a ton of respect for him in the past few months.
DrForester
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Bernie has every right to stay in. The primary system is a complete joke and needs to be reformed so you don't have half the states basically being worthless. There needs to be a national primary day, or at the very least, a much shorter primary season, (2 months at most). Also need to switch up which states go first. Bernie won't win this primary, barring some epic shenanigans, but I do hope this (and the republican primary) might lead to some real reforms in how they're done.
GitarooMan
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The idea that they are somehow equally bad is so narrow minded. It's amazing how that narrative has any weight at all.
Unknown Soldier
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Both only care about the 1%.
BotoxAgent
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It feels like his plan now is to damage Clinton as much as possible...cast as much suspicion and doubt as possible, including the DNC. Then while her polls get shake....he's like "See look!!! She's terrible! Nominate me!"
jack_package_200
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HUELEN10
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And here's the thing. I am absolutely confident that Clinton voters hate Trump enough that MOST of them would back Sanders in a General against him. Sanders supports though? I know too many IRL that will either not vote or vote for Trump. The percentage of Sanders voters who would vote for Clinton compared to Clinton voters who would vote for Sanders is a lot lower. Clinton can't get every independent vote, she can't get a Bernie or bust vote, and she can't get a Sanders vote.
So if Clinton wins, I think Trump definitely has a chance.
boiled goose
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This is the gaf bubble talking. His favorables are still the highest and his national polling has trended net upward over time.
Outside of gaf, this anti bernie vitriol simply does not exist...
Precisely. It's getting tired to have people say that there isn't any enthusiasm for Hillary and that they are voting for the "lesser evil." It's insulting. I'm incredibly excited to be voting for her, she's one of the most accomplished people to have ever ran for office and has the potential to give us the liberal Supreme Court we need. She'll be working closely with Obama staffing. I don't think she'd be winning the pledged delegate vote and popular by a wide margin (over EVERY candidate) if she wasn't.
Narrow-minded and intellectually bankrupt. How very embarrassing. The evidence to the contrary is everywhere, with daily reinforcements, and these folks are pulling a Lloyd Christmas..
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The Autumn Wind
I really hope this is sarcasm.
Not counting the super delegates early made sense, because if he had been able to get a lead he'd have a much better chance of flipping them. At this point though, since she has a big lead in popular vote to go with her delegate lead (not to mention thr harassment) it's simply not going to happen.
Bonen no Max'd
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I'd love to see how Bernie "Wrote rape fantasies and praised Castro" Sanders would do in a general election, except I also appreciate not living under the rule of Donald Trump.
Oh, and if you want to keep it about the issues? Here's what happened when someone just as left ran for the Democrats.
whyamihere
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She is right because more people voted for her.
This is what I'm waiting for. Trump wants to get her to trade insults with him but that's not going to happen. It doesn't need to happen. Everyone else will do it for her and better for her. You hit Trump from so many angles and he won't know what to do because of how thin skinned he is. He's going to lash out left and right. I want him to lash out during a debate though. To just lose it for everyone on the fence to see and be turned off by it. Then for Hillary to make him look like a pathetic child.
I also want to see who is willing to die on the hill for Trump, especially in the blue states. How many will run their campaigns and act like there isn't a republican nominee for president.
HUELEN10
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Some are, but in a a general, some people are gonna vote for her, should he win, simply because of what she's not, the mere fact that she is not Donald Trump.
Dash_Riprock
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And yet, he still lost. So much for those polls.
Aaron Strife
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Well yeah, she needs what, 10% of the remaining delegates?
35% if only the pledged delegates matter to you.
35% if only the pledged delegates matter to you.
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