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Artoris
Gold Member
No, I like history and this was an idea I had
kanjobazooie
Mouse Ball Fetishist
My bathroom. I had countless battles with diarrhea and constipation over the decades.
Edit: Sorry for shitting up your thread. Literally.
Edit: Sorry for shitting up your thread. Literally.
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Artoris
Gold Member
As you are still here, you must have been victorious
TheDraconian
Member
That's a crap history lesson right there
Artoris
Gold Member
I was thinking Russia or France
Artoris
Gold Member
Yes, but less so Scandinavia and Swithland Poland might be another good one
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Yes.
During the war of the roses (English civil war for the crown of England during the 15th century) there were two battles at St Albans in Hertfordshire.
The first battle was on the 22 May 1455 between the House of York and the House of Lancaster. It was a Yorkist victory.
The second battle of St Albans happened on the 17 February 1461. This was a much bigger battle between the two Houses and this time the House of Lancaster won.
Artoris
Gold Member
Do you have a map by any change
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
If you wanted something with more of a time gap, then the we could look at the location of Issus.
It was a site of a major battle when Alexander the Great beat the Persian Empire in 333BC.
It was also the site of a battle in the Roman civil war in AD194 where the forces of Lucius Septimius Severus beat his rival for the title of Emperor, Pescennius Niger. Severus won that battle and Niger was killed.
It was a site of a major battle when Alexander the Great beat the Persian Empire in 333BC.
It was also the site of a battle in the Roman civil war in AD194 where the forces of Lucius Septimius Severus beat his rival for the title of Emperor, Pescennius Niger. Severus won that battle and Niger was killed.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Artoris
Gold Member
I find Greek and Roman history very interesting, but it's not something I can fully relate to
wester part of Russia would probably be the best as you have the two word wars and the Napoleon and Sweden and countless lesser wars
FatallyYours
Member
Not full scale battles maybe, but Ukraine will have some new sites from this year that will have seen action in ww2
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Then I would point you towards WW2 to Kharkiv (Kharkov in Russian). There were four battles in that area during WW2.
October 1941 the Germans captured the city
May 1942 the Soviet forces made an attempt to capture the city.
February 1943 the Germans retook the city and drove out the Soviets.
August 1943 the Soviets took the city back.
Artoris
Gold Member
Is that before or after War of Wrath
Artoris
Gold Member
It's hard to tell the difference from our present perspective
Not true really, Sweden and Denmark has the 'honorable' world record of having fought the most wars. To this day, swedes has that certain 'look' in their eyes that tells a long tale of defeat and inadequacy.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
This interactive map will answer all your questions.
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BigDeadFreak
Member
Although this doesn't give exact places it's still a fascinating video and will hopefully give you something to go on:
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TheDraconian
Member
So Australia has only had ONE battle in history! Freaking insane!
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They battle with nature every day.
Artoris
Gold Member
Yes there have been wars but throughout history it has still been mild, not a bad thing though
*Nightwing
Banned
FunkMiller
Member
The person who made this has obviously never been to western Sydney on a Saturday night, outside the bottle shop.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
A civil war every weekend.
FatallyYours
Member
Emu war? (Which they lost)
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dunno what you mean about mild, but as I said, they hold the record as the two most warring nations in the world. I was obviously joking with the last part - love me some swede jabs.
Edit: In regards to you question, check the Sound between Zealand and Scania. Lots of battles throughout history.
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belmarduk
Member
In the US, there's Yorktown, VA. It was the last battle of our revolutionary war where the British surrendered. Later, it was a major battle site during our Civil War.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
It’s not unusual for different battles to happen at one area France had several.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Hard to say when
I hate that quote because it's not true.
The French won the Hundred years War (last phase anyway), yet we have written sources by both the English and French.
Germany lost WW2, but we have lots of written German sources.
Sure, there are times when we only have written sources from the victors, but that's only because we no longer have alternative sources, or the civilization didn't have writing technology, such as when the Gauls were defeated by Rome.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
I agree I am studying the Mongols and the best sources are from the people they defeated.
Ulysses 31
Member
Battle of Tours
Today's Europe probably would've looked very different if it had a different outcome.
Today's Europe probably would've looked very different if it had a different outcome.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Another great example.
From example, the Mongols crushed all before them in Europe, but the best sources are from the European kingdoms that they beat.
Good shout.
Battle of Tours 732. Also known as the Battle of Poitiers, which was also a site of another Battle of Poitiers in 1356 between England and France.
AzullAbaddon
Neo Member
The Valley of Megiddo has had so many battles its the base for the word Armageddon and thought to be the future site of the final battle
Razvedka
Banned
Jerusalem.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Those in power ie winners control the narrative. It's not that hard a concept to grasp even for those without any historical knowledge. It's simple logic. I'm not saying all recorded history isn't true. Not at all. From your post I gather I don't need to tell you that the essence of history is simply the recording of what has happened. Favorably from different points of view as to mitigate subjectivity. And I'm sure you're aware of the concept of censorship, especially in our current times and those before. With that said, it isn't a stretch, and I speak for myself, to think that there's always something lost in translation when it comes to the recording of events. Again, I'm not disregarding written history in essence. I'm just thinking in a general sense of how history can be manipulated if you're in a position of power ie control.
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Those in power ie winners control the narrative. It's not that hard a concept to grasp even for those without any historical knowledge. It's simple logic. I'm not saying all recorded history isn't true. Not at all. From your post I gather I don't need to tell you that the essence of history is simply the recording of what has happened. Favorably from different points of view as to mitigate subjectivity. And I'm sure you're aware of the concept of censorship, especially in our current times and those before. With that said, it isn't a stretch, and I speak for myself, to think that there's always something lost in translation when it comes to the recording of events. Again, I'm not disregarding written history in essence. I'm just thinking in a general sense of how history can be manipulated if you're in a position of power ie control.
It's a very sweeping statement that doesn't make a lot of sense.
As somebody who has studied history, I understand that sometimes you'll come across primary sources that are very questionable. This is why it's important to question the source before you use it in any research.
So I agree that sometimes history can be distorted and twisted. It's happened throughout history and still happens today. However, this has nothing to do with winners or losers.
The defeated can also twist history for their own gains the same as the victors. It's not just the victors that control the narrative.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Well said and I agree with what you said.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I grew up in the areas where the French and Indian War, US Revolutionary War, War of 1812, and later US Civil War were largely fought, so yea, plenty. A lot of warring happened up and down what is now the eastern seaboard of the US between about 1755 and 1865. I still drive by plenty each year. Sometimes even hike past some, or have lunch in one.
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NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Not sure if this counts, but there were 5 battles at Kawanakajima during the Senkoku Jidai. But the battles were a roughly 10-year span, with the same parties involved.
Artoris
Gold Member
This looks like the samurai era I read in the book called Shogun which was based a bit later in the time frameNot sure if this counts, but there were 5 battles at Kawanakajima during the Senkoku Jidai. But the battles were a roughly 10-year span, with the same parties involved.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Shogun is a fictionalized version of the conclusion of that war. About 40-50 years after those battles.
Artoris
Gold Member
In the end, it shows how the muskets ended the warrior caste I think the same thing happened with the European knights as having ten musket man was more cost-effective than one Knight
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Yup. There is an excellent battle that demonstrates this. The 1575 battle of Nagashino. This battle saw the impressive Takeda cavalry get utterly annihilated by Oda Nobunagas gunners