HOHOHO Pirate Santa is early this year : First NDS rom dumped

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NDS #0001 - Metroid.Prime.First.Hunt-DF
Posted By: djgarf @ Dec 24 2004, 02:33 PM
that's right folks it looks like the first proper nds rom is here

some info for u -

Filename : Metroid.Prime.First.Hunt-DF.rar
Rom Filename : Metroid.Prime.First.Hunt-DF.nds
CRC32 : C2FB5233
Rom Serial : NTR-AMFE-USA
Internal Name : FIRST HUNT
Size : 128Mbit/16MBytes

many thanx to pocketheaven for some of the info (as usual u guys r0x)
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Little note :

Darkfader (from Gbadev.org) did it on his own. I don't think he plans to release commercial games. He did it for educational purposes (Through Reverse engineering you can learn how the hardware works and how to make homebrew software,....)

So basically this release is not really piracy since it's only a demo but the door has been open and the world knows it's possible.

Discuss
 
Is it just me or is DS piracy the dumbest idea?
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Why? DS can be perfectly emulated on a PC (you just use mouse instead of stylus), and baring the hardware power issues, it should also be perfectly emulatable on PDAs.
 
All that skill and power, yet they still can't make a Saturn emulator that can run Raidiant Silvergun at a decent speed.
 
Vieo said:
All that skill and power, yet they still can't make a Saturn emulator that can run Raidiant Silvergun at a decent speed.
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Doesn't that "official" Sega emu run RSG good?
 
Bah Humbug! How soon until the emulator hits? I'd say by the end of 2005... But the experience still isn't the same as playing it on a real DS anyways.
 
jenov4 said:
Bah Humbug! How soon until the emulator hits? I'd say by the end of 2005... But the experience still isn't the same as playing it on a real DS anyways.
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It'll be hard to have a good DS emulator. You know, it has two processor, much like Saturn.
 
A nice computer and a wacom tablet and you're ready to rock (and put the pitchforks down, angry mobs. I'm buying a DS next year)
 
jenov4 said:
Bah Humbug! How soon until the emulator hits? I'd say by the end of 2005... But the experience still isn't the same as playing it on a real DS anyways.
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Well, buy yourself a flash cart or something when they're out! If piracy starts as fast as on GBA one really wonders why Nintendo doesn't make a good protection.
 
You can play Radiant Silvergun at a decent speed (and some graphic glitching) with Giri Giri.

So anyway....if you put a homebrew DS ROM onto a GBA flash cart, do you think it would run? Or will the DS refuse to run DS-enabled executables from the GBA port?
 
Didn't Jarrod say DS carts weren't smaller than 32 MBs? :P
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He admitted that he could be wrong (yeah, I was floored by that too! :lol )

It'll be hard to have a good DS emulator. You know, it has two processor, much like Saturn.
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It seems quite different (and easier) with DS, as each processor controls it's own screen, though. The communication between them seems much simpler than what you have on Saturn.
 
Doesn't that "official" Sega emu run RSG good?
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What? You mean that GiriGiri piece of sh...


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You can play Radiant Silvergun at a decent speed (and some graphic glitching) with Giri Giri.

So anyway....if you put a homebrew DS ROM onto a GBA flash cart, do you think it would run? Or will the DS refuse to run DS-enabled executables from the GBA port?
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Bah. While it never slows to a crawl, at certain parts of the game, it gets reaaaaally slow like on the second level where you're halfway through and those three things shoot out like 100 lasers at you. I know it's moving slower than normal cuz I suck at shooters and the slowness helps me dodge that part with no problem. :D

For crying out loud, Ikaruga runs WAAAAY faster on my PC.

faskaruga.jpg
 
border said:
You can play Radiant Silvergun at a decent speed (and some graphic glitching) with Giri Giri.

So anyway....if you put a homebrew DS ROM onto a GBA flash cart, do you think it would run? Or will the DS refuse to run DS-enabled executables from the GBA port?
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NDS ROMs Playable with GBA Flash Cart?
Yes it is true! Darkfader from the forums of gbadev.org has been able to run Metroid through a gameboy advance flash device. Well from older news you heard he dumped Metroid onto his PC and now it just got better. After he extracted the ROM from the ARM7 part he flashed it on a gba cart. It worked along without the original cart needed.

From http://dspaparazzi.blogspot.com/


Huh, there's actually a working DC emulator? I didn't know that. :)
 
Marconelly said:
It seems quite different (and easier) with DS, as each processor controls it's own screen, though. The communication between them seems much simpler than what you have on Saturn.
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Probably, but I'm still surprised we haven't even seen a DS emulator yet.
 
border said:
You can play Radiant Silvergun at a decent speed (and some graphic glitching) with Giri Giri.

So anyway....if you put a homebrew DS ROM onto a GBA flash cart, do you think it would run? Or will the DS refuse to run DS-enabled executables from the GBA port?
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it works.

Edit : read midas post
 
You've gotta be kidding me! Are you sure?

Nintendo actually allows DS roms to run from the GBA port? What the hell were they thinking?

Looks like pirate Santa really is early this year.
 
It sounds like it's only the ARM7 part and not the ARM9 part, or maybe I'm just missunderstanding the whole thing.
 
I have to admit, I would love to see a DS emulator that allowed for online multiplayer; it would be cool having Metroid Hunters on a big screen with enhanced visuals and keyboard/mouse play.

And yet, it would also be so VERY wrong. :D
 
WTF? :lol

The stylus is a mediocre substitute for a mouse on handheld devices. Having an ACTUAL mouse and keyboard can only improve the control.
 
Marconelly said:
He admitted that he could be wrong (yeah, I was floored by that too! :lol )
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I was going off Matrix's own website, which says only 32MB and 64MB 3DMs are currently in mass production. 16MB, 128MB and 256MB should all be in production shortly according to them... I'm guessing the site just hasn't been updated and they already are in mass production as well.
 
I was going off Matrix's own website, which says only 32MB and 64MB 3DMs are currently in mass production. 16MB, 128MB and 256MB should all be in production shortly according to them... I'm guessing the site just hasn't been updated and they already are in mass production as well.
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I thought the maximum capacity for DS cart were 128 MB?
 
God i wish the saturn emulator was good... I need to rip the iso's of alot of my games cause the case i kept them in scratched them alot. itd be nice to play all my old shit again.
 
tenchir said:
I thought the maximum capacity for DS cart were 128 MB?
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I think that was just the max for the first period of games. As for the 16MB cart, it's a demo, so why waste 32MB on it?
 
Um...if the touch screen has specific buttons on it that are shown on the display, then how would you be able to use the mouse, especially if there's no "pointer" of any kind visible on screen?
 
Dave Long said:
Um...if the touch screen has specific buttons on it that are shown on the display, then how would you be able to use the mouse, especially if there's no "pointer" of any kind visible on screen?
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.....the mouse-arrow would be the pointer.
 
Naked Shuriken said:
yeah but its not like it can recreate the unique experience of playing fps games with a stylus!
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It's not exactly unique. I tried playing CS with my old Sony LX900 4 years ago. Not something I'd want to repeat on my CIntiq......
 
I'm surprised no one brought up the mic issue. You'd need a mic connected to the PC if you want to play Feel the Magic :P
 
Wario64 said:
I'm surprised no one brought up the mic issue. You'd need a mic connected to the PC if you want to play Feel the Magic :P
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So, in other words, it'll never be a problem.

I think Nintendo is truly crazy if has allowed DS-executeables be booted from the GBA slot. I personally think that something isn't right with what that guy said, because I can't imagine even Nintendo doing something that stupid.
 
Dave Long said:
Um...if the touch screen has specific buttons on it that are shown on the display, then how would you be able to use the mouse, especially if there's no "pointer" of any kind visible on screen?
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Dude, you just have no idea. SNES emulators fucking emulate the Super Scope 6 with the mouse. Emulating a touch screen is *nothing*.
 
Milhouse31 said:
He did it for educational purposes (Through Reverse engineering you can learn how the hardware works and how to make homebrew software,....)
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Is that a new way of defending and defining piracy? :lol
 
I'm very anxious for the DS to be hacked.
Hopefully something useful will come out of this like wireless internet play.
A web browser would be nice too :D
 
snapty00 said:
I think Nintendo is truly crazy if has allowed DS-executeables be booted from the GBA slot. I personally think that something isn't right with what that guy said, because I can't imagine even Nintendo doing something that stupid.
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It does seem odd. Maybe Nintendo was planning for if they needed to release a DS game with a special chip or sensor (ie tilt pack, light sensor, extra RAM), and were thinking it would be easier to release it in a GBA cart form-factor instead using a DS card + GBA cart combo.
 
With the power of an emulator, we might be able to get games that look like they are from 7 years ago instead of games that look like they are from 9 years ago! Texture filtering ahoy!
 
GamerDiva said:
Is that a new way of defending and defining piracy? :lol
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Nope, it's the classic one.

Milhouse, are you serious about the GBA flashcart thing? DS will become THE device to pirate, since the games are pretty small - 16 - 32 MB currently.
 
from reading the actual thread, i gathered that he was only able to run the arm7 part of the code from the flashcart and not the arm9 code... but it was enough to enable him to write his own arm7 code and run it to read the arm9 code, thus being able to dump it...

thoug if you guys interpretation is the true one, i suspect that ALOT of SuperCards and 1GB+ Compact Flash cards will be sold in 2005
 
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