CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Is it still just a 3 team studio? Or since they fell into a mountain of cash from the OG, they surely added a few?
ShadyAcshuns
Member
You never leave the fucking house, do you? lol
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
One dude for coding, one composer and some contractors for additional coding and testing.
Based on what I've read, they took 7 years just because they were having too much fun making the game.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Yep, this game has 'PLEASE PLAY ME ON STEAM DECK' written all over it
Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
I was playing the first one on Switch before I owned a Steam Deck. Now I don't want to touch my Switch ever again if I can help it.
CrimsonTide
Gold Member
Yeah, that is what I got out of it "we just kept adding stuff and I would say yes that's in and add that". Sounds like a passion project and they PLENTY of money to get them by without worries.One dude for coding, one composer and some contractors for additional coding and testing.
Based on what I've read, they took 7 years just because they were having too much fun making the game.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
The wild thing is I have two kids, a wife, and a job that has me travel the country.
I just go to bed at 1AM/2AM now. Kids go to sleep at 8:30PM on the weekdays and I'll game to 1.
Weekends Friday-Sunday I spend with the wife in the evening. So I really game Monday to Thursday if I can. Trying to spend as much of my time focused on kids and her before I make time for me.
Luckily when I'm not traveling I work from home. This on less busy days lets me sneak in 3 hours if I'm lucky.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
It was a whole "mess". Apparently covid jacked up all of the contractual deals or something which is why they landed on xbox gamepass, but yes there was a window of time where there was some Nintendo money going back and forth if the stories are to be believed.
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touchfuzzy
Member
I'm also getting the Trails in the Sky remake on the 19th which is another beefy one, those two will easily carry me in to October when there's even more coming out.
And we don't even have that Metroid Prime 4 release date yet either, Nintendo still says 2025. I'd be okay with December at this point!
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Hollow Knight overall. But the game, and mostly the community, left such a bad taste in my mouth. There are just a ton of small but stupid design choices that make the game more of a chore to play. The example I always give, and just gave above, is how they make you waste a precious upgrade slot on putting your character's location on the map. That's just stupid and frustrating.
But I can forgive bad design choices, especially when the rest of the game is so good.
What I can't forgive is how every time I'd bring up those issues online in the last 8 years, a bunch of mindless HK stans would make backwards arguments about how those design choices were actually "genius" or some shit. The community has been dangerous to Hollow Knight, making the game seem like it's somehow perfect without any room for improvement.
Because it's so difficult to have a conversation about Hollow Knight's shortcomings and where it can be improved, I'm genuinely worried that the devs never fully received or considered a lot of the criticisms from the first game. I hope they're better than that, but it makes me concerned.
I suppose we'll know soon enough, though. If Silksong makes you spend a fucking upgrade slot just to see your position on the map, I'll know that they didn't learn anything.
But I can forgive bad design choices, especially when the rest of the game is so good.
What I can't forgive is how every time I'd bring up those issues online in the last 8 years, a bunch of mindless HK stans would make backwards arguments about how those design choices were actually "genius" or some shit. The community has been dangerous to Hollow Knight, making the game seem like it's somehow perfect without any room for improvement.
Because it's so difficult to have a conversation about Hollow Knight's shortcomings and where it can be improved, I'm genuinely worried that the devs never fully received or considered a lot of the criticisms from the first game. I hope they're better than that, but it makes me concerned.
I suppose we'll know soon enough, though. If Silksong makes you spend a fucking upgrade slot just to see your position on the map, I'll know that they didn't learn anything.
Fbh
Member
Personally I love it, specially if it's optional content and it's good.
My problem with many long games is that I often feel like they run out of new unique content way before the experience is over. Like you are 30 hours into the game and it has seemingly run out of new enemies and bosses to throw at you, but for some reason it keeps going for another 20 hours. With Hollow Knight I felt like I was contantly encountering fun new content all the way through the game.
My one big criticism of the original Hollow Knight is that I felt the backtracking got a bit annoying during the second half as the map gets bigger and bigger. It should have had at least twice as many fast travel locations so going back to an earlier location just to check something out didn't take 5 minutes. That's the one thing I hope they improved in Silksong.
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Gamer_By_Proxy
About to beat off
If you're east coast, we basically have the same situation and schedule. Except I work from home 4/5 days a week. Let alone travel.
You might be the person I should be playing these mandatory co-op games with. It Takes Two, A Way Out, Split Fiction, etc. ha!
KiteGr
Member
The first game was unexpectedly good, starting slow and slowly opening up to reveal a gigantic haunting world. It was also quite taught, rewarding skillful play and exploration, and the patched content gave it a lot of extra bosses, areas, content and even a couple of new (though very hard to get) endings.
It was a metroidvania that felt polished and complete, with many atmospheric surprises one would expect from a Dark Souls game.
This (Silksong) was originally intended to be the first and only paid dlc for the first game about one of it's characters, though it blew up in scope and became a full blown sequel delayed multiple times, so it was teased on the back of peoples minds since the first game's launch.
If you played the first game, you would know the hype.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
September is fucking ridiculous right now either way. I have a huge list of shit I want, or am interested in at the very least.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Dude, I'm not seeing any player marker on the map in this section of the trailer. Not saying it's not there, but pleeeaaasseee Team Cherry… don't pull that shit again.
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touchfuzzy
Member
A lot of bitching about using one point of an upgrade slot on marking your spot on the map, holy shit. You just set it and move on. Or don't and enjoy exploration? Then if you need the extra one point to equip something for a tough boss or whatever you can make that call later. It's hardly a make or break thing.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
swaffles23
Member
Is anyone else just as excited for Mossbag lore videos as they are the game? I think i've watched his complete Hollow Knight lore video maybe 5-6 times
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Dacvak map has enough landmarks and indicators already dude, you don't need to a map marker and if you really do, just spend 1 point on it.
One of the best parts of the game is getting lost and enjoying the exploration. I'm glad that it seems they haven't ruined that by making it dumber.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Fixed for accuracy
MatrixReloaded101
Member
You don't need to buy everything the day they release lol.
But to answer your question. Its because publishers want everything out before thanksgiving because Christmas shopping starts right after that.
I think October is actually more stacked, crazy thing is besides Call of Duty, November is empty.
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KàIRóS
Member
I will wait until they release all updates, DLC and maybe even the Voidhornet Edition or whatever they decide to name the ultimate edition for this game.
I think playing OG HK when it released really hurt my view of that game and how incredibly unfinished the base game felt, I'm not going to make the same mistake this time.
I think playing OG HK when it released really hurt my view of that game and how incredibly unfinished the base game felt, I'm not going to make the same mistake this time.
kpopSuperstar
Member
I desperately wanted a more compact map, instead if the long map and slow traversal from the first, but it looks very similar.
I like Hollow Knight, but man, it was slow. Hopefully they added some new gameplay that switches up the platforming and combat.
I like Hollow Knight, but man, it was slow. Hopefully they added some new gameplay that switches up the platforming and combat.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Gamepass?
I didn't have an issue with the map or the lack of a player marker, although having to use a slot to "fix" that was annoying. My main issue was putting some bosses behind things like lifts but not having them reset on death, so each time you failed while learning it you spent half the time just waiting for the opportunity to face them again.
That and the long and empty paths made it seem more like gameplay padding to me than the amazing world others found.
That and the long and empty paths made it seem more like gameplay padding to me than the amazing world others found.
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Variahunter
Member
Both HK and Ori are mid honestly. Can't even touch Super Metroid toe.Souls fans will not shit on your Ori games to make our games look better. It's not who we are.
VolticArchangel
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LavitzSlambert
Member
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Are you saying it's a Simon's Quest? I'll buy it if it's a Simon's Quest.
Hudo
Member
I don't know either. I found the first Hollow Knight to be ok but nothing more. I don't get the hype. It's certainly far away from being the Symphony of the Night killer many Hollow Knight fans say it is. Or I am too retarded to "get it".
Edit: I do wish everyone who is excited for this a lot of fun with it, though! You've all certainly waited for quite some time for this.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Sounds like it lol, at least it's grabbing some elements from it.
Have you played The Battle of Olympus and Faxanadu? More Zelda 2 than Simon's Quest, but they might scratch the itch.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I have not. The last Simon's Quest game I played and enjoyed was Bloodstained: Classic 2 Dominique's Curse.
The first one looks similar to Pit from Kid Icarus ironically.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Bruh, prepare to see this a lot in the near future:
Dude, I'm not seeing any player marker on the map in this section of the trailer. Not saying it's not there, but pleeeaaasseee Team Cherry… don't pull that shit again.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I'm confused. Do people find HK hard? The game is piss easy. Aside from wondering around being lost as shit being the "hard" part. All the combat and platforming is easy as can be.Bruh, prepare to see this a lot in the near future:
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Damn I still need to check the retro-lookint Bloodstained games. They sure look fun.
Infernac was quite decent as well! Worth a try at least.
Lmao. You made me check and yep, they must be cousins or something.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Curse of the moon 1&2 are fucking amazing. 9/10 games for me.Damn I still need to check the retro-lookint Bloodstained games. They sure look fun.
Infernac was quite decent as well! Worth a try at least.
Lmao. You made me check and yep, they must be cousins or something.
Play them. Each one will take you only a couple hours. The second IMO is better.
Do notethey have "true endings" to obtain so that could take you a little longer to get.
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Roman Empire
Member
Well, no to ask for Half-life 3 like every year.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Good news though I think the hype it build over the years will disappoint a lot of folks. Temper your expectations, all I see from the trailer is simply just more of the same, nothing new or super great.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
OMFG
Sorry Hell is Us, releases the same day, made by a friend of mine, super hyped to play it, but Silksong goes first
Sorry Hell is Us, releases the same day, made by a friend of mine, super hyped to play it, but Silksong goes first
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Maybe on a sale. Too many games.
larrybrady
Member
I can't even stand right now without poking someone in the eye