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MMaRsu
Member
Also use FPS control scheme (in options), and set the deadzones to 0 or something
Raven77
Member
Wolves hunt in packs
Banned
What is objectively good when it's a matter of taste?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
...with VR mod.
GymWolf
Member
The gunplay before you shoot may be shit, but very few games have better gunplay when the bullets actually hit the target.
Shooting in this game is just so meaty and satysfying, it's the cover\aiming that sucks balls (and on pc way less because of the higher framerate\mouse control)
Shooting in this game is just so meaty and satysfying, it's the cover\aiming that sucks balls (and on pc way less because of the higher framerate\mouse control)
mayham2199
Member
Didn't really enjoy it at all. I got to chapter 3 and just dropped it. Story and overall game is just boring to play.
DirtInUrEye
Member
Arthur Morgan is an idiot though. The first game is much better imo. I agree that the open world of the sequel is an unimpeachable marvel, but I just wish Rockstar games had industry standard responsive movement and shooting controls like those found in countless other open world games, going back to the likes of Sleeping Dogs and plenty of Ubishite games. GTA 6 no doubt will be a spectacular wading through marshland simulator.
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hyperbertha
Member
Elden ring. Both Zelda games. Ez
Euler007
Member
Nah. ER's high points are the set dungeons and Zelda is like a theme park. RDR2 seems like an actual world.
hyperbertha
Member
Nope. In every way elden wins
Euler007
Member
hyperbertha
Member
Realism isn't worth shit in games. Rdr2 is just a good looking diorama. Elden ring is fun to play
NeverYouMind
Member
True Crime: New York City
Bully: Scholarship Edition
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Days Gone
Hogwarts Legacy
*All of these have more interactivity.
HRK69
Gold Member
HOGWARTS FUCKING LEGACY
The first Red Dead Redemption has better interaction than all those games.
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NeverYouMind
Member
If by interactivity you mean you can kill anything that moves I guess so. Otherwise no.HOGWARTS FUCKING LEGACY
The first Red Dead Redemption has better interaction than all those games.
Paasei
Member
Defining if something is good is technical.
Defining something is fun is based on entertainment value.
So then why isn't the gameplay good of RDR2 if it works technically speaking?
Dated, slow and clunky.
Does that mean you cannot enjoy it?
No.
Wolves hunt in packs
Banned
Okay, i guess we see it differently.. If i was to write about a game i didn't enjoy it's gameplay, i would say that it's my opinion, stating that RDR2 gameplay isn't good as a fact, or how you phrased it "until people finally understand" is just wrong, you may see in this topic along and on countless other topics that many pepole did enjoy the gameplay, so it's far from being below standard.
simpatico
Member
That just looks like input lag. It's more responsive than that on PC, but Aurthur still isn't a spry young bird.
For the people commenting on gunplay, I find it no different than Max Payne 3 or GTA V. Just with older weapons. I like the gunfights quite a bit. I wonder if that's another effect of the input lag in the console versions. I think the ol western shootouts were handled pretty much perfectly. Struggle to think of how you'd even do it better.
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Paasei
Member
So be it. Agree to disagree. I see your view and I see my mistake of the phrasing. Doesn't change my view on seperating entertaining/joy from good/bad, however.
Raven77
Member
Nope.
Those are great examples but they're not better than rdr2. Here's the reason why.
Think about each open world and then think about what you can immediately do in those worlds. In rdr2 I can think of 10 or 15 things instantly. In the other two, I can think of a handful of things, but then it gets harder.
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lifa-cobex
Member
Both games being fantastic on their own rights.
Elden ring has great fantasy visuals that are weaved in to tell parts of lore.
Zelda games are hit and miss. For the hits though, The worlds are finely crafted but sparse.
RDR2 has a very detailed world that works really well with the hunting mechanics.
Your people are trying to compare three really well prepared cooked steaks. Cooked by three different chiefs in different ways.
lifa-cobex
Member
Issues?
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NeverYouMind
Member
I was too busy playing Gwent to fully explore the open world for the short time I played it. I do love the scenery in the Blood and Wine DLC though. Absolutely breathtaking.Why is noone saying Witcher 3?
HRK69
Gold Member
Oh, come on. If you think ‘interactivity’ in Red Dead Redemption boils down to ‘killing anything that moves,’ you’ve missed the whole point. I’m talking about a living, breathing world where the smallest actions have real consequences. When was the last time you walked through Valentine and got into a fight with a random drunk, only to have the law after you and the whole town remember it the next time you show up? Or helped a stranded stranger and found out days later he survived because of you? Red Dead doesn't treat the world like a theme park; it's an ecosystem where interaction feels meaningful, not just hollow ‘go here, collect this’ quests like some Hogwarts chores. But sure, if that’s too complex to grasp, then by all means, reduce it to just ‘shooting things.
The game world feels real. Not just because you can pick off bad guys but because every inch of it invites you to explore and live in it. Ride out into the wilderness, and suddenly you’re tracking coyotes, taming wild horses, or stumbling on a bandit hideout where you decide how to handle things. It’s less about ‘just shooting’ and more about being a part of a world that remembers what you do, reacts to how you behave, and constantly surprises you. Unlike Hogwarts.
Red Dead Redemption 2 only doubles down on the interactivity. It's unmatched.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Rewatched The Revenant over the past couple days and man, the cinematography inspiration between that and Heavens Gate is just fucking perfection.
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