For me, it's the most consistent season since season one. Hasn't really had any of those awful lows that plagued season 2 and 3. That's just me.
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Homeland - Season 4 - Sundays on Showtime
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For me, it's the most consistent season since season one. Hasn't really had any of those awful lows that plagued season 2 and 3. That's just me.
backflip10019
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WAY better. Like season 1 good.
Lumpy Onion
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It's been a damn good season overall for me. Change of location for most of the season had a lot to do with it. Miles better than the last 2.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
dead souls
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Another short episode tonight, 44 minutes according to Showtime's site, but I'm damn excited seeing how much plot they packed into basically the same amount of time last week.
Time to watch Quinn fuck some shit up.
Time to watch Quinn fuck some shit up.
chalkitdown1
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Every single episode has been about 45 minutes since season 2. Used to it by this point.
Can't think of another premium cable hour-long that runs this short, though. I remember some episodes of Deadwood used to run awfully close to the 40 minute mark back in the day, but it was pretty rare.
Can't think of another premium cable hour-long that runs this short, though. I remember some episodes of Deadwood used to run awfully close to the 40 minute mark back in the day, but it was pretty rare.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Last 5mins.
When Carrie had her gun out, but seriously wtf was that Ayan's flashback? that's the stupidest shit ever. She fell in love with the boi and was going to kill Hakani and kill herself for that? like wtffff, I wish they had something else in the flashback. Well may be something like embassy attack and all the dead bodies or fucking soul phone call? shit like this makes me more angry
Last 5mins.
When Carrie had her gun out, but seriously wtf was that Ayan's flashback? that's the stupidest shit ever. She fell in love with the boi and was going to kill Hakani and kill herself for that? like wtffff, I wish they had something else in the flashback. Well may be something like embassy attack and all the dead bodies or fucking soul phone call? shit like this makes me more angry
the whole thing was weird because just seconds before she was telling quinn not to blow the bomb but then was ready to kill hakani in broad daylight and because she got a flashback about her boy lover? i wish she wasnt so emotional about trivial things
Cornballer
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Boy, that suggestion in the comments that
Dar Adal was the CIA mole in S1
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
And at the end of S2? That SUV placement? We still dont know who leaked Brody's tape and put his SUV there right?
really underwhelming episode. everything seemed way too easy. felt like this episode could and should have been stretched out to three or four episodes, really just focusing on the spycraft of it all.
and as for the end,
edit: idk what the spoiler policy is for this thread so I'll just spoiler everything
and as for the end,
I don't think it was implying he was a mole (that would be a terrible way to reveal it) so much as the whole thing was some kind of false-flag way of getting the Pakistani tribes and the Pakistani government in favor with the US. or something. not unlike flipping Javadi in Iran, I suppose.
if he's a mole, that would just be dumb. I'm so over moles.
if he's a mole, that would just be dumb. I'm so over moles.
edit: idk what the spoiler policy is for this thread so I'll just spoiler everything
Cornballer
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- Promo for the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Clip from the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
- Clip from the season finale (please spoiler tag any discussion)
AuthenticM
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ok, why is the Pakistani government protecting Haqqani, officially ? I thought they wanted to kill him just like the Americans did, and only the female ISI bitch was on his side ? I don't get it anymore. Who's on who's side ?
anyways, great episode. The great buildup was kinda deflated at the end though.
edit: they also missed the opportunity to dedicate the episode to James Rebhorn.
anyways, great episode. The great buildup was kinda deflated at the end though.
edit: they also missed the opportunity to dedicate the episode to James Rebhorn.
Soyongdori
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Pretty sure Dar Adal staged the whole partnership with ISI and Haqani to bolster US's hard stand against terrorism, since the world saw the US embassy getting infiltrated by the terrorists and killed the citizens, which makes the US's foreign policy on war on terrorism mush harsher. The means justify the ends and all that.
RatskyWatsky
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streetsahead123
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Well, to be fair, Carrie is not a sane/rational person and at least her plan wouldn't have involved the deaths of dozens of innocent bystanders.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I think that may have been a misinterpretation, as the "clues" that Quinn was in love with Carrie were pretty vague to begin with and they have done absolutely nothing with that "storyline" since then.
BrokenEchelon
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No Quinn! Don't!
[PTSD about her fuck toy getting shot]
IMA KILL HIM I SWEAR.
Dumbest. Cunt. On. Television.
I hope she dies. I really hope at some point they kill her. Why the fuck did I end up watching this season when I told myself not to. Ugh
[PTSD about her fuck toy getting shot]
IMA KILL HIM I SWEAR.
Dumbest. Cunt. On. Television.
I hope she dies. I really hope at some point they kill her. Why the fuck did I end up watching this season when I told myself not to. Ugh
Not that I'm a huge fan of Carrie's, but...you're all wrong thinking that her actions don't follow an internal logic. She didn't want Quinn to kill Haqani because she couldn't stand losing someone else, which doesn't mean she herself isn't willing to die for that cause.
dead souls
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Well, you are quoting the person who named The Leftovers his favorite show of 2014, so would you really be surprised if he got something else wrong?
Great episode tonight.
Yeah, that seemed like the showrunners were trolling the audience with the superiors' misinterpretation. Whatever their relationship is, it isn't romantic.
AuthenticM
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Because some want to and others don't.
streetsahead123
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I think some people aren't considering Carrie's state of mind in that final scene. She sees the man that caused her all kinds of suffering and killed her friends and in addition to all of that, her dad just died. Top it off with the fact that she is literally an insane person deep down and I think it makes sense that she would decide to kill him herself (plus, as I pointed out previously, Quinn's plan involved the death of numerous innocent bystanders).
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
You know I get all of this. If only they would have showed that as her motivation to kill him in bright day light. But instead they showed her kid lover getting shot, implying that was her motivation for the suicide mission; which was just fucking dumb.
I like how it's the Aayan flashback that makes her do something stupid. Not the death of many of her colleagues. Not even Fara. No it gotta be Aayan. Someone you were probably going to fucking drone strike along with the mastermind terrorist if it wasn't for Saul being in the picture.
I don't want to be too hard on this episode, I thought it was fine but I just did not dig those last few minutes. I thought her motivation to pull the trigger was all out of whack. Especially after all that effort she went to stopping Quinn. Even after she had a one-on-one webcam session with Brody Jr the Second. I thought something would go through her mind, like maybe she has to live for her child. Or help her sister after the father's death.
No she wants to commit suicide because of Aayan.
It's sad he died, yes, but...sigh. And that Adal twist...I hope that doesn't go stupid. I hope the season finale has a strong landing.
I don't want to be too hard on this episode, I thought it was fine but I just did not dig those last few minutes. I thought her motivation to pull the trigger was all out of whack. Especially after all that effort she went to stopping Quinn. Even after she had a one-on-one webcam session with Brody Jr the Second. I thought something would go through her mind, like maybe she has to live for her child. Or help her sister after the father's death.
No she wants to commit suicide because of Aayan.
It's sad he died, yes, but...sigh. And that Adal twist...I hope that doesn't go stupid. I hope the season finale has a strong landing.
backflip10019
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The one middle eastern looking guy on the team (outside of Farrah). Go figure he's a terrorist.
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