LookAtMeGo
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I played through a good portion of TW3 and Fallout 4 with the HUD turned off. I will probably do the same with this game.
Horizon Zero Dawn gameplay vids *spoilers*
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CouchMaster
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I like the fact that Thunderjaw is so difficult to take down, its almost like a mini boss. Hope it stays this way irrespective of your level.
robertsan21
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Where is Digital Foundry with their PS4 Pro VS PS4 comparison ?
where is Gamersyde with their high quality videos of this? Youtube is horrible
where is Gamersyde with their high quality videos of this? Youtube is horrible
pillowtalk
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Have they mentioned what these characters eat? All the animals are robots right? Are they just vegans?
wapplew
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Turkey, rabbit, boar etc.
No their are regular animals such as foxes,boars,rabbits, turkey, and fish.
pillowtalk
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I totally missed that then.
Simple Soul
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I'm interested in discussing something about combat. At the reveal it seemed really cool, but the more videos I watched, something began to bother me about so many of the encounters being ranged vs melee.
Melee vs melee usually means you stay in the thick of things, dodging and parrying and exchanging blows. You usually have defensive options that don't force you to run away. Ranged vs ranged means you're either behind covers (most games), or, as recently shown by DOOM, running around like crazy from enemy to enemy to punch them in the face. Ranged vs melee seems a bit off to me. I'll give an example - this section:
https://youtu.be/fGhghvqJ0HU?t=624
Alloy is facing this big beast, and the entire fight plays out the same. She shoots an arrow, then rolls out of the way. That's about it. It repeats itself 4-5 times. I think it's just an inherent problem of ranged vs melee. You want to keep your distance, the enemy wants to close it, and once he manages to, you need to run away and then get in a few more shots. Staying up close means death, and you can't safely keep your distance, so it results in this weird chase that doesn't seem too compelling to me. A lot of the game seems fun, but I worry that most of the fights will follow this formula, which I imagine can become real old real fast.
What do you guys think? How can you make ranged vs melee a fun encounter? Did you see scenes in the previews where ranged vs melee combat was a bit more diverse in actions? Am I missing something about Alloy's options in a given fight? Or do most of them play out like this and it's just a matter of taste?
Melee vs melee usually means you stay in the thick of things, dodging and parrying and exchanging blows. You usually have defensive options that don't force you to run away. Ranged vs ranged means you're either behind covers (most games), or, as recently shown by DOOM, running around like crazy from enemy to enemy to punch them in the face. Ranged vs melee seems a bit off to me. I'll give an example - this section:
https://youtu.be/fGhghvqJ0HU?t=624
Alloy is facing this big beast, and the entire fight plays out the same. She shoots an arrow, then rolls out of the way. That's about it. It repeats itself 4-5 times. I think it's just an inherent problem of ranged vs melee. You want to keep your distance, the enemy wants to close it, and once he manages to, you need to run away and then get in a few more shots. Staying up close means death, and you can't safely keep your distance, so it results in this weird chase that doesn't seem too compelling to me. A lot of the game seems fun, but I worry that most of the fights will follow this formula, which I imagine can become real old real fast.
What do you guys think? How can you make ranged vs melee a fun encounter? Did you see scenes in the previews where ranged vs melee combat was a bit more diverse in actions? Am I missing something about Alloy's options in a given fight? Or do most of them play out like this and it's just a matter of taste?
I think it's entirely down to the approach taken by the player. GhostRobo's previews feature some exceptional high end play with him combining ranged, sliding and melee with lots of movement but little use of tolling. One sequence played at a fortress gate against the insectoid corrupter robot stands out especially.
Plus, those Thunderjaws...
Jawbreaker
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This comparison only works if you have no fucking clue how Horizon plays or understand what's on offer.
Callibretto
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I'm not sure this game even have strength stat, seems like everything depend on your gear stat, so find stronger bow for more attack damage rather than grind xp to level up.
I could be wrong though.
Jawbreaker
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The cauldrons are probably going to offer up some of the most difficult combat encounters. Granted, you can go out of your way to reach areas with enemies far above your level (including the aforementioned cauldrons).
Simple Soul
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Personally I don't see it. Other than basic platforming, maybe?
Thanks, I'll go check his videos.
I think it will depends mainly on the type of machine you are engaging with, For ex.
Here is one gif with the Thunderjaw. you can see that as alloy got further from him , the machine uses a new way to fight her. and i think this will be true with respective to each machine.
Simple Soul
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Oh shit, that's really cool. Never saw that before. Seems like he's actually punishing you for trying to get away.I think it will depends mainly on the type of machine you are engaging with, For ex.
Here is one gif with the Thunderjaw. you can see that as alloy got further from him , the machine uses a new way to fight her. and i think this will be true with respective to each machine.
See this i don't get sometime, its on the first page , at third post i think, how could you miss on it.
Also it would be helpful if we have couple of "gameplay" gifs in the OP as well.
drotahorror
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Can someone explain what's going on with like, the hue of everything? It goes from an almost night-time, greenish hue, to a more natural dusk/dawn hue, to a purple hue in about 10 seconds?
It's cool, I like it, I'm just curious as to what's going on?
https://youtu.be/Jl13gY58bow?t=2m57s
I'm thinking the nighttime green hue is 'detective vision' the natural hue is the transition from detective vision to the real hue which is purple (which gets more red over time).
It's cool, I like it, I'm just curious as to what's going on?
https://youtu.be/Jl13gY58bow?t=2m57s
I'm thinking the nighttime green hue is 'detective vision' the natural hue is the transition from detective vision to the real hue which is purple (which gets more red over time).
Callibretto
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many machines also have long range attack and you have tool like ropecaster to hold machines back for a few moment, the game also seems to encourage preparation before combat like setting up traps etc. if you have friendly machines that you have hacked, they can also serve as distraction to pull enemies attention away from you.
Simple Soul
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Nice, that sounds fun. Hope it ends up being common and significant in the game.
Yep. This is way more closer to the Witcher series in worldbuilding, monster hunting, dialogue choices, crafting and abilities.
Thanks no big deal though just a bunch of links lol
Equanimity
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Nice. Great thread OP 
Umm I have some in the OP.
More_Badass
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Got links for those?
PLASTICA-MAN
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This section is from the Collector Edition unboxing video. Also, I didn't know the game had vertical platforming like Assassin's Creed games. Very Good!
Yeah alot of unexpected things.
It's the Corrupter fight link in the OP.
Yeah I was just about to tell you
Cant post them allNot the "RoboDinopewpew" one
Yeah I was just about to tell you
Cheers dude!
xenorevlis
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It's not full on nighttime, but dawn at that point. Sunrise taking place during an accelerated day-night cycle (compared to normal time). Hence the color changes.
Psycho_Mantis
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Unlike Souls, all the enemies here have long range attacks. I've even seen the small ones fire beams. Some of them have AoE explosions, flamethrowers, rocket launchers etc
Yeah makes sense too since its mostly long range combat.
What I like is that each machine seems to server its own purpose or duty in the world, they all seem to working towards something.
Well, that's the least they could do to make combat encounters interesting, I'd say. If getting away and shooting the enemy while it keeps chasing you was feasible, it would be just boring.
Link to this compilation?
I have the exact opposite impression of the cut scene animations HZD facial animations look like just look like random mouth movements, TW3 facial expressions conveyed emotion to me. But to be fair that is comparing a completed game played hours on end to preview videos.
Very true
You cleary never played The Witcher 2. The facial animations in that game aren't even wooden, they are... I can't even come up with an apt word.
Horizon is no Uncharted, but fortunately is no TW 2 either.
Mashable has some cool clips
http://mashable.com/2017/02/03/horizon-zero-dawn-gameplay-clips-preview/#PpFeUaZIOmqK
Look at the sawtooth trying to bite her.
http://mashable.com/2017/02/03/horizon-zero-dawn-gameplay-clips-preview/#PpFeUaZIOmqK
Look at the sawtooth trying to bite her.