Man Called Aerodynamics
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(Accidental repost)
House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: I think Putin pays Trump
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F0rneus
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The entire thing needs to be burned down. Fuck the GOP. Traitors.
Now that's funnyLOL "But you say 'I'm serious'!"
Zombie James
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Holy shit.
blackMamba1187
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Holy shit dude
Exactly. Like, it doesn't appear he's making a serious accusation against Trump that he can back up... but this does speak to Republican cowardice more broadly. That they clearly recognize Trump's Russia connections but have been totally negligent in acting on them
That's the transcript cropped/edited to show McCarthy's entire dialog which happened within seconds. Two sentences, two laughs, and one "swear to god".
This was the day after DNC announced they had been hacked. So using his defense, he was just joking about DNC getting hacked because he laughed.
I personally think he really believed that, thought it out loud, and Ryan didn't want McCarthy's rumination to leak.
SwiftDeath
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I think the only thing that shocks me about this is that a Republican had to be the one to record and leak this.
Louise Mensch called that too. Can I take bets on Orrin hatch being president?
CassidyIzABeast
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Repugnants continue to put party first.
That's the transcript cropped/edited to show McCarthy's entire dialog which happened within seconds. Two sentences, two laughs, and one "swear to god".
This was the day after DNC announced they had been hacked. So using his defense, he was just joking about DNC getting hacked because he laughed.
I personally think he really believed that, thought it out loud, and Ryan didn't want McCarthy's rumination to leak.
Reading this makes me think it was McCarthy thinking "holy shit trump is either lucky as hell or paid by russia wtf" but at this point fuck it, take a page out of the GOP playbook and make this a big ass deal.
King Tubby
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I don't doubt the veracity at all, but I would love to hear the tape. I'm assuming WaPo doesn't actually have the tape, they were allowed to listen by the person who recorded it?
Not that it matters, the principals have all confirmed it happened anyway.
Link? I can't keep up with all the theorizing.
Not that it matters, the principals have all confirmed it happened anyway.
Link? I can't keep up with all the theorizing.
What I'm curious about is how does this affect the USA/world's relationship with Russia after/if we restore competent leadership to the states? we can't just like... let it slide, right?
https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated
follow his twitter. Then see how many things have come out true.
PhantomThief
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4.) The maffia
No i think we go to war with Russia and fuck them up.
Hate to sound like some sort of silly conspiracy theorist, but it's getting hard to keep calling it a "theory" at this point, so fuck it. And it's not like anyone in the GOP deserves the benefit of the doubt.
This has to be the tip of the iceberg. We have to assume a lot of higher-ups in the government, especially the GOP, knew about the Russia stuff and has been hushing it up. But how many are actually involved? How have they kept the party and the propaganda so unified until now? Why hasn't anyone gone rogue and spilled the beans?
This has to be the tip of the iceberg. We have to assume a lot of higher-ups in the government, especially the GOP, knew about the Russia stuff and has been hushing it up. But how many are actually involved? How have they kept the party and the propaganda so unified until now? Why hasn't anyone gone rogue and spilled the beans?
Version 3.0
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Right? And, of course, that also explains why McCarthy wouldn't remember it. Because being sworn to secrecy over a joke is such a common occurrence, it's not memorable.
Reads like a joke to me.
Ryan and the rest of the assholes were enjoying a little schadenfreude. McCarthy jokes about Trump being on Putin's payroll - because come on, they all were thinking it or probably joked about it when he was running, nobody liked him then. Then Ryan jokingly tells them to hush it up, like McCarthy has revealed some secret. So it's in poor taste but I don't think it reads as them knowing all about Russian interference.
Ryan and the rest of the assholes were enjoying a little schadenfreude. McCarthy jokes about Trump being on Putin's payroll - because come on, they all were thinking it or probably joked about it when he was running, nobody liked him then. Then Ryan jokingly tells them to hush it up, like McCarthy has revealed some secret. So it's in poor taste but I don't think it reads as them knowing all about Russian interference.
Shadow Puppetry
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StopMakingSense
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There's more in the transcript, Ryan talking about Putin funding populists, etc.
Father_Brain
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It reads like they believed that the Trump campaign was inappropriately close with Russia, not that McCarthy or anyone else literally believed the specific allegation in question.
Okay yeah, it would be a bit of a left-field joke otherwise.
King Tubby
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Nah, only a few. The rest are just assholes which is why it worked so well.
Maintenance
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House of Cards S5 OT - Whats said in the family stays in the family
Definitely using this. Thanks.
MagicWithEarvin
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Is it possible for the Republican Party to go away forever?
Yekshemesh
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Ehhh. I would say the vast majority of the Republican party has been indirectly compromised. They have been mostly silent and in most cases outright deny any evidence put forth. It's not a gross exaggeration to say that if this were happening under a Democrat President the outrage would be vastly different.
House GOP needs to be investigated all the way to the top
90% chance this recording is from the Ukrainian Embassy.
Electric Eye
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5 eyes.
Here's the thing that gets me about Paul Ryan. He's a fanatic to the point of irrationality. Someone once posted a good analogy to show just how scary and dangerous he is:
Imagine you've got a simple society of 100 people. There's only one well as a source of water for the society. The one guy who owns the well decides to up the price of water to something insane like $10 per bucket. Only 9 or so other people can afford that. Logically, you'd want some kind of structure in place to make sure that the guy couldn't hoard all of the water to himself and those with more resources because the society can't function that way. The other 90 people also contribute to society by making tools, hunting, etc.
People like Paul Ryan would look at that situation, insist that the only fair way for that society to function was to allow the well owner to charge $10 per bucket. People would die of thirst and society would collapse. But to people like Paul Ryan, that doesn't seem to matter because ideology is more important than anything else.
I hope all of this takes Paul Ryan down. He's little more than an AI program with the set goal of destroying the safety net. Aliens could land in Washington DC and he'd still be insisting that we focus on cutting Medicare.
Imagine you've got a simple society of 100 people. There's only one well as a source of water for the society. The one guy who owns the well decides to up the price of water to something insane like $10 per bucket. Only 9 or so other people can afford that. Logically, you'd want some kind of structure in place to make sure that the guy couldn't hoard all of the water to himself and those with more resources because the society can't function that way. The other 90 people also contribute to society by making tools, hunting, etc.
People like Paul Ryan would look at that situation, insist that the only fair way for that society to function was to allow the well owner to charge $10 per bucket. People would die of thirst and society would collapse. But to people like Paul Ryan, that doesn't seem to matter because ideology is more important than anything else.
I hope all of this takes Paul Ryan down. He's little more than an AI program with the set goal of destroying the safety net. Aliens could land in Washington DC and he'd still be insisting that we focus on cutting Medicare.
Outrage? They'd take up arms and hang people for treason.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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So much for president ryan I guess.
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I think all this will lead to is the GOP deciding to back Trump's plan to get friendly with Russia. It's the only way for them to normalize all this, and GOP voters would be fine with it.