I think it could've easily been done in much, much less than 13 episodes.
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House of Cards - Season 2 on Netflix - *Spoilers for all of S2*
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War Peaceman
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Rachel's was tedious at times, but it was refreshing to see a decent character. A victim in some ways. Plus it is obviously setting up Frank's downfall. The pay off hasn't happened yet (which is not to say you are wrong to be irritated by it).
Freddy was great. The scenes between him and Frank were fantastic and really demonstrated his character. It offers a different relationship to any other he has in the series.
Freddy was great. The scenes between him and Frank were fantastic and really demonstrated his character. It offers a different relationship to any other he has in the series.
cartoon_soldier
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Agreed. I do think this is one of those cases where a weekly release may not make us feel the same way too.
Finished with the season. It definitely got much more entertaining towards the end. The strength of the show rests entirely on the Underwoods and the focus on their core mission to grow their power base. I'm glad it returned to that by the end of the series. I liked some developments towards the end too. Doesn't really negate the complaints I had from the first half though, and some of the weaknesses there creeped in all the way to the end too.
Spoiler comments for the entire season:
Spoiler comments for the entire season:
The most disappointing things in the early episodes is how keen the show was to simply write off most of the left over subplots from the first season instead of developing them. It seemed like the only thing they were able to seamlessly carry over was the Rachael plotline. Everything else seemed to basically get the axe in some pretty unnaturally or unsatisfying ways.
The way Claire handled the lawsuit was pretty out of character and kinda illogical. Killing Zoe for shock value is fine if it resulted in something interesting for the rest of her team, but nope. Instead we get stupid hacker crap with Lucas which was groan-worthy, and even that didn't really end up leading to anything. I didn't enjoy how any of that was executed, and it just felt like a total waste of time. I don't even get the point of the Cristina thing either. She felt like just another leftover character the writers didn't want to develop any further.
Instead of spending more time developing these returning characters in interesting ways, they introduced weak new subplots instead. The hacker stuff is bad. The Chinese stuff feels fake and stupid. Rachael's lesbian friend was uncooked. The casino stuff isn't very compelling either. There wasn't a single ongoing storyline which really felt as well planned as the Russo arc in the first season.
What I did like from the season was a lot of the character-centric stuff with regards to the Underwoods and people in their immediate circle. The sexual assault stuff was pretty compelling because it showed a more feminine side to the show, and how different characters tackle the issue. It also shows how Claire turns negative things in her life into something she can use to her benefit.
I liked the interactions they had with the president and his wife too, except for the fact that Garret is truly the weakest and most spineless president I've ever seen on screen. It's totally unbelievable that this guy actually had the ambition and support to get to where he is. I think the show has done a really poor job of making Garret an actual character rather than a comic sock puppet for all the characters in the show to bounce against - including his wife. There's more character development between Claire and Patricia in season 2 than there is of Garret himself in two seasons.
The most satisfying relationship development in the season is Meechum's role in the Underwood household. It's been a pretty natural development since the first season, and I'm really happy that the show actually committing to it. Jackie and Remy was an unlikely pairing but it did add an interesting dimension to the dynamics.
One recurring thing which simply didn't work for me was Raymond Tusk. I feel his entire arc turned into a joke this season. Instead of an intimidating presence meant to be Frank's equal and competitor, he felt like a joke villain who was throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, without a decent plan or a good arsenal at his disposal. When his best plan to get back at Frank was to release tabloid slander on his wife and mess with his favorite BBQ joint, it was obvious he had nothing. It was much more exciting watching the last two episodes knowing that Frank was up against basically the chaos introduced by his own plotting, rather than watching him "face off" against Tusk. I never felt for a moment that Tusk was a threat.
The season got a lot better once most of the shitty subplots winded down and it focused on Frank's main plan on taking over the presidency. I feel kinda bad for what happened to Doug in the end, but I think it was a fitting end which seemed unavoidable. The final episode was pretty satisfying all things considered. It did feel like what they were working towards from the start of the show.
The way Claire handled the lawsuit was pretty out of character and kinda illogical. Killing Zoe for shock value is fine if it resulted in something interesting for the rest of her team, but nope. Instead we get stupid hacker crap with Lucas which was groan-worthy, and even that didn't really end up leading to anything. I didn't enjoy how any of that was executed, and it just felt like a total waste of time. I don't even get the point of the Cristina thing either. She felt like just another leftover character the writers didn't want to develop any further.
Instead of spending more time developing these returning characters in interesting ways, they introduced weak new subplots instead. The hacker stuff is bad. The Chinese stuff feels fake and stupid. Rachael's lesbian friend was uncooked. The casino stuff isn't very compelling either. There wasn't a single ongoing storyline which really felt as well planned as the Russo arc in the first season.
What I did like from the season was a lot of the character-centric stuff with regards to the Underwoods and people in their immediate circle. The sexual assault stuff was pretty compelling because it showed a more feminine side to the show, and how different characters tackle the issue. It also shows how Claire turns negative things in her life into something she can use to her benefit.
I liked the interactions they had with the president and his wife too, except for the fact that Garret is truly the weakest and most spineless president I've ever seen on screen. It's totally unbelievable that this guy actually had the ambition and support to get to where he is. I think the show has done a really poor job of making Garret an actual character rather than a comic sock puppet for all the characters in the show to bounce against - including his wife. There's more character development between Claire and Patricia in season 2 than there is of Garret himself in two seasons.
The most satisfying relationship development in the season is Meechum's role in the Underwood household. It's been a pretty natural development since the first season, and I'm really happy that the show actually committing to it. Jackie and Remy was an unlikely pairing but it did add an interesting dimension to the dynamics.
One recurring thing which simply didn't work for me was Raymond Tusk. I feel his entire arc turned into a joke this season. Instead of an intimidating presence meant to be Frank's equal and competitor, he felt like a joke villain who was throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, without a decent plan or a good arsenal at his disposal. When his best plan to get back at Frank was to release tabloid slander on his wife and mess with his favorite BBQ joint, it was obvious he had nothing. It was much more exciting watching the last two episodes knowing that Frank was up against basically the chaos introduced by his own plotting, rather than watching him "face off" against Tusk. I never felt for a moment that Tusk was a threat.
The season got a lot better once most of the shitty subplots winded down and it focused on Frank's main plan on taking over the presidency. I feel kinda bad for what happened to Doug in the end, but I think it was a fitting end which seemed unavoidable. The final episode was pretty satisfying all things considered. It did feel like what they were working towards from the start of the show.
Agreed wholeheartedly with your analysis although I personally found it a bit directionless at points. I really felt left in the dark as to where the hell this was meant to be going.
The whole plotline regarding the aftermath of Zoe's murder was incredibly poor. Bringing in Hammerschmidt seemed like it might go somewhere but it went absolutely nowhere.
The whole plotline regarding the aftermath of Zoe's murder was incredibly poor. Bringing in Hammerschmidt seemed like it might go somewhere but it went absolutely nowhere.
Yeah I think lack of direction is a general flaw this season. It felt like they knew where they wanted to be by the end of the season, but they didn't really know how to get there in an elegant way. They tried various different stuff to see if anything would resonate with the audience, but unfortunately most of it felt lame.
In comparison the first season was very firmly rooted in the Russo arc which defined the entire direction of the season. His entire plan to become vice president relied on that, and he was building Peter up as someone he could use from the start of the season. Even after Peter's death, the repercussions were felt all the way to the end of the season.
There's really nothing at all like that in the second season, and I think that hurt it substantially.
In comparison the first season was very firmly rooted in the Russo arc which defined the entire direction of the season. His entire plan to become vice president relied on that, and he was building Peter up as someone he could use from the start of the season. Even after Peter's death, the repercussions were felt all the way to the end of the season.
There's really nothing at all like that in the second season, and I think that hurt it substantially.
War Peaceman
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I will say that it is very noticeable that Willimon has a background as a playwright. The writing can be... a little on the nose at times. Tom Stoppard he is not.
tryagainlater
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The episode 11 stuff:
Anyway, this season seems weaker thus far. Hopefully, the next two episodes will pick up.
Saw it coming a mile away but that might just be because I'm a pervert and think everything will end in an orgy. When that girl started talking to Rachel on the bus, I knew it wouldn't be long before they were fucking. No real problem with the threesome, just not sure if there's a point to it.
Anyway, this season seems weaker thus far. Hopefully, the next two episodes will pick up.
Ahh, fuck, clicked that top spoiler accidentally even though it was correctly labeled
Really?! It was awkward as hell. Had to leave it for a while and come back to finish it
it was the most sexy thing i've seen on tv
I think the one major thing that troubles me about this season and Frank ultimately achieving his goal of obtaining the presidency is that, unlike season 1, most of his manouvers felt reactionary and defensive, rather than carefully plotted and orchestrated.
In season 1, the whole Russo arc had a very deliberate quality and quiet genius about it. In season 2 a lot of Frank's dealings with Tusk, Remy and the Chinese seemed to be a simple matter of escalating politics and power-plays. That's all fine incidentally, but by the end the chips seemed to fall all-too-conveniently in Frank's favour. Not only did he manage to get the best of his enemies, but through good fortune he also managed to leave Walker severely compromised.
I guess what I'm saying is in this season, Frank got lucky. His smarts and cunning are still clearly there for all to see, but the actions of others; actions that he couldn't have anticipated, ended up helping him achieve his ultimate goal.
In season 1, the whole Russo arc had a very deliberate quality and quiet genius about it. In season 2 a lot of Frank's dealings with Tusk, Remy and the Chinese seemed to be a simple matter of escalating politics and power-plays. That's all fine incidentally, but by the end the chips seemed to fall all-too-conveniently in Frank's favour. Not only did he manage to get the best of his enemies, but through good fortune he also managed to leave Walker severely compromised.
I guess what I'm saying is in this season, Frank got lucky. His smarts and cunning are still clearly there for all to see, but the actions of others; actions that he couldn't have anticipated, ended up helping him achieve his ultimate goal.
Ah, I see.
Writing certainly seemed off-point compared to the first. Thought that would've explained it.
War Peaceman
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it was the most sexy thing i've seen on tv
I really hope you are joking :O
Huh? I've never seen the UK version.. I'm speculating on where they're going, the stakes can only go so much higher.
WeAreStarStuff
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I just did the exact same thing. :/
Oh. I was under the impression that you were using the UK show to speculate what season 3 would be.
Because I recall reading similar things from the uk show.
Cornballer
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Just finished the season. This is for me one of the better TV shows out there, no matter how ridiculous it might get at times. Kevin Spacey as an unscrupulous and villainous asshole is too enjoyable to watch.
FU.
edit: and of course some dude here posted spoilers from a UK version of the show I never knew even existed. Great. I thought it'd be safe to just highlight everything. :|
Kevin Spacey as an unscrupulous and villainous asshole is too enjoyable to watch.FU.
edit: and of course some dude here posted spoilers from a UK version of the show I never knew even existed. Great. I thought it'd be safe to just highlight everything. :|
Cornballer
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- Procera with some more network diagnostics on House of Cards viewing
- Variety: House of Cards Binge-Watching: 2% of U.S. Subs Finished Entire Series Over First Weekend
- Variety: House of Cards Binge-Watching: 2% of U.S. Subs Finished Entire Series Over First Weekend
Much more via the link in both articles.
Agreed.
Frank's strategy for the majority of season 2 amounts to playing the "I'm human, I make mistakes too *wink *wink" card combined with "I'm making this decision, but I want the opposite to happen" card. All Frank needed to do to "win" was to craft simple lies. Frank manipulated people by constantly making bad decisions that only benefit him, Season 1 didn't have this problem as heavily.
rocketskates
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frank and the punching bag hahahaha
That whole "arc" took a grand total of one episode. It was nice getting some back story on that one character considering how much Frank valued him.
I don't see how this is radically different than what happened to Russo in season 1? Was it a good plan for Frank to get into the VP position? Yes, but there's no guarantee Russo would sleep with Rachel and start drinking again and if that didn't happen, there's no indication as to what his backup plan was, if he even had one.
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thepotatoman
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The direction was her getting away from being basically owned by a creep like Doug as a B story, while keeping her around in peoples minds for her inevitable roll in the A story as a key witness against Frank.
I guess the hacker, Rachel, and that new reporter lady will be the going into the next season as the main outside threat, while I guess Danton and Sharp are the only two left that even potentially will fight on the inside, outside of any new characters they create.
I guess the hacker, Rachel, and that new reporter lady will be the going into the next season as the main outside threat, while I guess Danton and Sharp are the only two left that even potentially will fight on the inside, outside of any new characters they create.
Frank's one biggest superpower is supposedly reading and manipulating people. So we're supposed to think he had a good reason to suspect that Russo would screw up.
But if that somehow didn't work, I would guess the VP's huge want to be more involved but didn't know how would still be a huge weakness Frank could use to force him into doing something stupid and having to resign.
Fantastical
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Again general season 2
I really enjoy Jackie, but the treatment of Cristina was bad. Why was this season dedicated to getting rid of major characters from last season? Her character played absolutely no purpose except to be a gateway to get into the First Lady's mind.
Season 2 in general one more time
I don't mind Jackie, and I certainly wasn't implying that this season couldn't have the both of them in it, but I'm with you here. You'd think they'd respect the characters more than just to ship them out. I mean the more I think about Christina, the angrier I get, because she had a lot of potential that went untapped this year just so she could tie into some minor subplot about the president's marital issues. It's pretty ironic how much stronger of a character she is than either the first lady or even the president.
I just finished and as a whole I'm left a bit unsatisfied. The finale did a good job of putting an end cap on where they wanted the season to go, but they did so at the
Maybe someone can fill in the blanks for me but what purpose did
Anyway, there are obviously a few strings that they've left to dangle for S3 to tie up (mainly:
), but as others have already mentioned, far too many things ended up
It was an entertaining season. The cinematography, acting and dialogue were as strong as ever. But it was a step back from the first for me.
expense of an awful lot. There were far too many expendable characters that could and should have contributed more to the bigger picture.
Maybe someone can fill in the blanks for me but what purpose did
Zoe's death serve other than to get rid of the character and any characters associated with her, specifically, Lucas?
He planned to play the martyr for Zoe's murder, but was nothing more than a dead end street at the bottom of a cliff with the rest of the reporter characters as soon as he placed that usb drive into that server. I suppose we'll see where that AT&T stuff goes (maybe) in S3.
Claire is seen early on in S2 still working at her NGO, CWI. In fact, the NGO was an enormous part of Claire's existence in S1. So much so, that she backdoor's Frank by having Russo's Watershed bill die on the House floor at the request of Remy and his employer. This move then upsets Gillian because it becomes clear to her that Claire is doing shady business with for-profit organizations. Claire then sacks Gillian. In S2 the NGO is tossed out as soon as Gillian is neutralized. So the NGO was the center of Claire's world at one point, but then used as nothing more than a plot point to make her look extra malicious when dealing with Gillian's unborn baby. :\
Claire then interviews and hires Connor as the Underwood's PR Director. Connor lasted a few episodes before he was pushed aside for Seth Grayson, who we are led to believe is a mole for Raymond Tusk via Remy. However, Claire and Frank quickly learn that Seth is a double agent and Tusk gains nothing once Seth sides with the Underwood's. So....what good did any of that do for anyone? Connor was hired away by Remy for what exactly? Why did Connor even exist other than to have us believe that Seth was a threat to Claire or Frank for a few episodes?
And what about Remy? One of my favorite character's from S1 did fuck all in S2. Seriously, what did he accomplish other than getting down with Jackie Sharp? Nothing. It was failure, after failure with all of his plays for Tusk. He did nothing of note at all. However, this may be by design, as it seems by E13 that Jackie is propping him up to play a larger role for the Underwood administration at the White House. So maybe it was all worth it?
Regardless of how Remy was handled, there's no denying that Jackie Sharp was definitely an asset to the cast and one that will hopefully expand even further in S3. Her involvement and screen time was put to very good use throughout the entire season.
That brings me to Tusk. Frank's main adversary for the season amounted to nothing more than a dog chasing his own tail. At no point did Tusk seem to pose any real threat to Frank. Time after time he was outwitted and ill prepared to deal with the beltway politics that were at play. Remy was his only option and that turned out to be a complete dud. When you have seemingly un-limitlessness funds at your disposal and your plan to get your point across is to shutdown a rib joint that the VP frequents--you've already lost. Sure the idea of funding GOP seats lingered, but it didn't last for very long. The Super PAC money laundering storyline was a good one; however, I didn't buy the way Tusk fell on the sword just take Walker down with him. That was way, way to convenient. I can't offer a better solution but that should not have gone down like that in the series finale.
And that brings me to my biggest problem with S2: Walker being a complete pushover. That continually got on my nerves because it made no sense at all that someone in his position would fold so easily to what seemed like something he had very little involvement in, in the first place. It's as if this whole backroom politics thing just started once he took office. Does he really have no cards of his own to play? I guess not....
He planned to play the martyr for Zoe's murder, but was nothing more than a dead end street at the bottom of a cliff with the rest of the reporter characters as soon as he placed that usb drive into that server. I suppose we'll see where that AT&T stuff goes (maybe) in S3.
Claire is seen early on in S2 still working at her NGO, CWI. In fact, the NGO was an enormous part of Claire's existence in S1. So much so, that she backdoor's Frank by having Russo's Watershed bill die on the House floor at the request of Remy and his employer. This move then upsets Gillian because it becomes clear to her that Claire is doing shady business with for-profit organizations. Claire then sacks Gillian. In S2 the NGO is tossed out as soon as Gillian is neutralized. So the NGO was the center of Claire's world at one point, but then used as nothing more than a plot point to make her look extra malicious when dealing with Gillian's unborn baby. :\
Claire then interviews and hires Connor as the Underwood's PR Director. Connor lasted a few episodes before he was pushed aside for Seth Grayson, who we are led to believe is a mole for Raymond Tusk via Remy. However, Claire and Frank quickly learn that Seth is a double agent and Tusk gains nothing once Seth sides with the Underwood's. So....what good did any of that do for anyone? Connor was hired away by Remy for what exactly? Why did Connor even exist other than to have us believe that Seth was a threat to Claire or Frank for a few episodes?
And what about Remy? One of my favorite character's from S1 did fuck all in S2. Seriously, what did he accomplish other than getting down with Jackie Sharp? Nothing. It was failure, after failure with all of his plays for Tusk. He did nothing of note at all. However, this may be by design, as it seems by E13 that Jackie is propping him up to play a larger role for the Underwood administration at the White House. So maybe it was all worth it?
Regardless of how Remy was handled, there's no denying that Jackie Sharp was definitely an asset to the cast and one that will hopefully expand even further in S3. Her involvement and screen time was put to very good use throughout the entire season.
That brings me to Tusk. Frank's main adversary for the season amounted to nothing more than a dog chasing his own tail. At no point did Tusk seem to pose any real threat to Frank. Time after time he was outwitted and ill prepared to deal with the beltway politics that were at play. Remy was his only option and that turned out to be a complete dud. When you have seemingly un-limitlessness funds at your disposal and your plan to get your point across is to shutdown a rib joint that the VP frequents--you've already lost. Sure the idea of funding GOP seats lingered, but it didn't last for very long. The Super PAC money laundering storyline was a good one; however, I didn't buy the way Tusk fell on the sword just take Walker down with him. That was way, way to convenient. I can't offer a better solution but that should not have gone down like that in the series finale.
And that brings me to my biggest problem with S2: Walker being a complete pushover. That continually got on my nerves because it made no sense at all that someone in his position would fold so easily to what seemed like something he had very little involvement in, in the first place. It's as if this whole backroom politics thing just started once he took office. Does he really have no cards of his own to play? I guess not....
Anyway, there are obviously a few strings that they've left to dangle for S3 to tie up (mainly:
Rachel having absolutely no impact or reason to exist in S2 other than to kill Doug in the finale, which I believe will ultimately be Franks downfall
falling into place for the Underwood's that they clearly could not have predicted. Again, it was all just a little too convenient for me. There's manipulation and then there's just plain luck. Season 2 relied far too heavily on the latter. For a political drama where you think everyone is plotting to be two steps ahead, it seemed no one knew what they wanted to do from one move to the next. Everything seemed reactionary and not calculated as part of a bigger scheme. It makes me think they should aim for shorter seasons and cut out a lot of what diluted the show this time around.
The final scene with the new cabinet shaking hands made the entire climb to the oval office seem like a mafioso master plan that came to a head. Unfortunately, it was more of a facade and I imagine Frank let out a big exhalation of relief after he pounded the table as he thought to himself, how the hell did I pull this off?
The final scene with the new cabinet shaking hands made the entire climb to the oval office seem like a mafioso master plan that came to a head. Unfortunately, it was more of a facade and I imagine Frank let out a big exhalation of relief after he pounded the table as he thought to himself, how the hell did I pull this off?
It was an entertaining season. The cinematography, acting and dialogue were as strong as ever. But it was a step back from the first for me.
AuthenticM
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I just finished the season. I liked it, but it serves as yet another confirmation that no TV season should ever have more than 10 episodes. There was filler in the first season, their was filler in this one. Drop down the number of episodes to 10 and it would make for a substantially better paced show.
SlowRevolution
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the casual use of
(I have no clue if that was worth spoiler tagging but I guess it's better to be safe) in this is starting to come off as really, really lazy and off-putting.
animal cruelty
crisdecuba
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Excellent, excellent post (the entire thing). One comment: I thought (episode 13 spoilers)
that Tusk said walker knew about it because Frank's offer of a pardon was the only thing left available to him since Walker rescinded.
I can only think of this being done twice.
General complaints
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Too many episodes had Frank vs. Tusk, Frank undermining the president, the president scolding frank only to bring him back to his good graces. I do like Christina, and I'd wish they brought her back for season 3. But for all intents and purposes she wasn't that important for this season. As GQman2121 said above, Claire trusted Gilligan to replace her, the entire legal battle was a dent in her plan so Claire did what she could do to put the legal battle to rest and have CWI in trusted hands.
I really do love Doug, he is a fantastic character played by a great actor. He is a loyal dog and I knew he was going to bite it or get fired for the amount of screen time focused on him. I disagree with many folks in here who did not like Rachel's story. I liked it, it was cute and harmless and I'm glad she 'escaped' even if it came with the cost of dougs life
Also Freddy How stupid
I really do love Doug, he is a fantastic character played by a great actor. He is a loyal dog and I knew he was going to bite it or get fired for the amount of screen time focused on him. I disagree with many folks in here who did not like Rachel's story. I liked it, it was cute and harmless and I'm glad she 'escaped' even if it came with the cost of dougs life
Also Freddy
How stupid A show should never, ever, be full throttle all of the time. If a show uses the "filler" in a good way, 13 episodes is 100% fine.
shinobi602
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Just on the first episode....holy shit....HOLY MOTHERFUCKIN SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.
Cornballer
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- NY Mag Interview: House of Cards Jimmi Simpson (possibly some spoilers)
Just finished watching this. I think its the only show where i really had to focus and actually rewind some parts because ran to the kitchen for 5 seconds.
There are no flashbacks, no previously on etcetera etcetera ... I'm pretty sure it got above alot of people their heads including mine at times.
That said,
Both Spacey and Wright are just phenomenal in this and carried the entire thing for me.
There are no flashbacks, no previously on etcetera etcetera ... I'm pretty sure it got above alot of people their heads including mine at times.
That said,
i absolutely loved the ending scene in the office. I envisioned exactly what he was going to do with the chair and the ringknock.
Both Spacey and Wright are just phenomenal in this and carried the entire thing for me.
Love this show.
1. The way they show technology is awesome. Computers, operating systems and phones are all real. Not many shows do that. Makes it easier to relate to the world. Mid season spoilers:
2. I hate Frank and his wife. But I also hate most of the other people on the show. So many assholes.
3. General spoilers
Only got 3 episodes left. Good stuff.
1. The way they show technology is awesome. Computers, operating systems and phones are all real. Not many shows do that. Makes it easier to relate to the world. Mid season spoilers:
:lol
at the hacker, skype and fingerprint thing though
at the hacker, skype and fingerprint thing though
2. I hate Frank and his wife. But I also hate most of the other people on the show. So many assholes.
3. General spoilers
They worked too hard to get rid of loads of characters. Kinda sucks because they had some good ones
Only got 3 episodes left. Good stuff.
That's one of the advantages the Netflix model offers to this show. The writers know that a lot of people will be binge watching and that previous episodes are always available to the audience, thus there's no need for "previously on House of Cards" and a lot of the stuff on the show that would be flashbacks in other shows is just revealed through exposition here
like Claire being sexually assaulted.
Red Blaster
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ashleigh banfield's obnoxious sanctimony in real life was a 1:1 fit for tv
Yeah they went a bit too far this season. It's a shame, still looking forward to Season 3, but yeah, this was a disappointment.
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