House Republicans/Ryan Finally Release ACA Repeal (lol) and Replace (lol) Bill
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Username1198
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I saw on Reddit that their calling this "republicare" so these fuckers can't blame anyone else when people get pissed off.
Constant state of anger since this fucker took the White House, legit evil administration.
Constant state of anger since this fucker took the White House, legit evil administration.
Ziltoidia 9
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Question: When you combine this with the Trump tax plan (at least the one from the campaign) what do you get?
How big of a deficit jump?
How big of a deficit jump?
UnObtainium17
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Obamacare is roling over in its gurney right now.
Mr.Shrugglesã
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The stupidity of the chart and the lack of logic in it, is pissing me over and over again.
ACA forces insurers to cover preexisting conditions. the healthcare mandate exists as a consequence, forcing consumers to purchase insurance or pay a fine (to prevent you from simply paying for insurance when sick and canceling when healthy)
the surcharge is intended to replace that
anyways, the bill looks like shit; not altogether surprising
Aaron Strife
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I mean yeah, if you're rich you'll still come ahead under just about any plan. But the poor, the people who most need it will suffer dearly for that. America continuously must ask itself who needs the extra help more, and constantly re-evaluate that answer because frequently we get it dead wrong.
As for "never getting sick," that's rather unrealistic and if you only pick up insurance when you do get sick you're fucked by the 30% surcharge.
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thepotatoman
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I think it's a surprisingly good middle ground between establishment republicans and the freedom caucus. Probably about the best they could do without guarenteeing the freedom caucus revolting against it.
Democrats just aren't even a factor in it.
RedAssedApe
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#draintheswamp...you guys knew I meant of the poor right?
Lord Frieza
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The Supreme Court case could potentially spell a lot of trouble for him
Black Mamba
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Supposedly, Trump gave his blessing earlier in the week to Ryan. WH worked with him a bit.
They want Trump to push it hard, too.
Lord Frieza
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It gets a wag of the finger from most, but I'm firmly in the 'fuck'em' camp. These people can die and rot for all I give a fuck.
Yup. Obama already gave them the furthest right implementable health care, and they lost their god damn minds over it. Now they're stuck because they promised to repeal it, and can't be seen agreeing with a black man, yet still need a good health care plan.
Fuck em, they can squirm.
Once the CBO scoring comes out that shows this drops people he will cut bait and run. He is a feckless shit.
Which case?
Black Mamba
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Maybe.
he could also call the CBO Obama cronies trying to hurt him.
And after the implementation he can claim it is all fake news.
Who the fuck knows what he'll do?
Only Ubermensch's need apply.
Tranqueris
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I don't mind as long as his title after 2018 is "House minority leader."
A Serious Man
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Trump doesn't understand any of this, he'll believe whatever his aides tell him.
Bonen no Max'd
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But doesn't "Former Congressman" have a much better ring to it?
Cheesewheel
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Not an American, but block grants for Medicaid seems to be one of the worst things in this whole bill? Just reads as an ever increasing lose-lose for both hospitals and the poor.
Angelus Errare
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"A 64 y/o can pay $3,000 more a year for health insurance, that's $18,000 a year for health insurance".
Someone break that down for me cause I'm lawst
Lord Frieza
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There was a SC case about gerrymandering that affected his district I think
Little Green Yoda
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They're currently paying 15k/yr for health insurance already?
RandomExpletive
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I uh... why would they screw over the elderly? Don't Republicans do hilariously well with the elderly?
Do they think they'll all forget it was the ACA Repeal that screwed with their premiums?
Ah who am I kidding they'll blame Obama and everyone'll take the bait
Do they think they'll all forget it was the ACA Repeal that screwed with their premiums?
Ah who am I kidding they'll blame Obama and everyone'll take the bait
It's not Obama. They the hateful are OK with it even if it's fucking them over.
I seriously doubt he read the bill or even capable of understanding it.
If the public turn against it hard, I totally see him throwing Ryan under the bus, there is no love loss between the two.
Which is why I think he (and his surrogates) needs to be pressed on this bill constantly.
Aaron Strife
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Don't worry, they're not repealing the Affordable Care Act, just Obamacare.
RastaMentality
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Could be passed in reconciliation apparently.
neurosisxeno
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If that's the hill they want to die upon let them have it. I doubt this even clears the House. Freedom Caucus and every Dem will vote against it, as will a good number of other Republicans for the opposite reason as the Freedom Caucus--their constituents want none of this shit.
Black Mamba
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Well, of course he hasn't read or could possibly understand it.
It probably comes down to whether he jumps out in front right now to support or waits to hear reactions first.
I'm just saying dude has no problem ignoring the uproar if he chooses. He'll just claim fake media, fake CBO, etc.
SaviourMK2
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Wait, so the people who are "paying too much" for Obamacare are now going to be paying MORE?
neurosisxeno
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No, the imaginary provision that controls healthcare costs will drive down the price of premiums so far that it will end up being a net savings. According to a bunch of idiots who also think High-Risk Pools will work.
GrizzleBoy
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GOP:
Mandating that people get health insurance is a disaster for our people and owe who can't pay for it!
Now, you can choose not to have it!
If paying for healthcare is too hard, then fuck it! And if you want it later on, it will be even harder/more expensive to pay, as a measure for punishing you for being too poor to pay in the first place.
So that when poor people now get ill, they'll just get fucked by bills the cost of a brand new car!
Rejoice poor people! Rejoice! This is the change we needed!
Mandating that people get health insurance is a disaster for our people and owe who can't pay for it!
Now, you can choose not to have it!
If paying for healthcare is too hard, then fuck it! And if you want it later on, it will be even harder/more expensive to pay, as a measure for punishing you for being too poor to pay in the first place.
So that when poor people now get ill, they'll just get fucked by bills the cost of a brand new car!
Rejoice poor people! Rejoice! This is the change we needed!
I was in a weird situation where I made too much to get state insurance but I have a lot of debt from helping family out. So I can't afford to get insurance myself. I had to pay $900 this year from my taxes because I didn't have insurance. The one positive from this is they don't have that tax penalty anymore. I might actually get some money back next year.
It's gonna suck when I do need it though(I actually need it now I have glaucoma), hopefully I can hold out until a democrat gets back in office.
It's gonna suck when I do need it though(I actually need it now I have glaucoma), hopefully I can hold out until a democrat gets back in office.
Lord Frieza
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They should call it Trumpcare. Guarnteed bankrupt right there
RumblingRosco
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It confused me too. But yeah, it's basically "instead of paying $15,000 a year, you'll pay $18,000 a year."
LyleLanley
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If you can guarantee at least one of those things will always be true I imagine insurance isn't that big of an issue for you.
Fox Mulder
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Yeah.
If this country is getting fucked due to idiots with obsolete job and bigoted views, I at least hope they suffer too.
Host Samurai
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Trunpdontcare sounds like the optimal name.
RumblingRosco
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The GOP doesn't care. They'll take and take and take for as long as they can, then walk it back an inch if there's outrage, then take and take and take, then walk it back an inch. They'll repeat this until their most awful-yet-acceptable-by-their-base ideas get through.
Conservatives on their death bed because of no healthcare, "worth it..." *Croak*
Bigotry till the end.
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