How would Bruce Lee, at his peak, fare in the UFC?

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Bruce Lee's ghost would win in the UFC, are you kidding me? Those people are the exact perfect type of fighter Bruce Lee would excel against. Even if he met one who was more physically fit and stronger than he, it would just be a simple matter of using his size or inexperience against him. Leave us remember the man had a two inch punch that was likened to a car crash.
 
Phaethon0017 said:
Bruce Lee's ghost would win in the UFC, are you kidding me? Those people are the exact perfect type of fighter Bruce Lee would excel against. Even if he met one who was more physically fit and stronger than he, it would just be a simple matter of using his size or inexperience against him. Leave us remember the man had a two inch punch that was likened to a car crash.
Can you explain why you think this?
 
I think people really over-estimate the UFC

In other sports leagues, you can clearly tell it's the best of the best (including boxing), but I don't get the same impression from UFC fighters. There are a lot of scrubs and in general the lack of professonalism within the sport makes me think less regarding how talented these guys are and how good of a league it is.
 
X26 said:
I think people really over-estimate the UFC

In other sports leagues, you can clearly tell it's the best of the best (including boxing), but I don't get the same impression from UFC fighters. There are a lot of scrubs and in general the lack of professonalism within the sport makes me think less regarding how talented these guys are and how good of a league it is.

You really can't tell who the best are in the UFC?
 
CaptYamato said:
You really can't tell who the best are in the UFC?

Stating that Bruce Lee couldn't fight on the ground and all of the other garbage makes it clear that you haven't learned much about him. As well as a few other UFC fans in this thread. =p
 
Iadien said:
Stating that Bruce Lee couldn't fight on the ground and all of the other garbage makes it clear that you haven't learned much about him. As well as a few other UFC fans in this thread. =p
just because bruce lee trained with some jiu jitsu or judo fighters doesn't mean he would be able to beat them at their own game. hell the techniques have advanced a lot since bruce lee's time.
 
CaptYamato said:
You really can't tell who the best are in the UFC?

I'm thinking more along the lines as best in the world. You have a few exceptional guys like GSP and Silva, but I just can't look at the UFC as a whole and think these are the best fighters in the world.

Again, I think this mainly because of the overall lack of professionalism. As the UFC continues to mature my views could change.
 
X26 said:
I'm thinking more along the lines as best in the world. You have a few exceptional guys like GSP and Silva, but I just can't look at the UFC as a whole and think these are the best fighters in the world.

Again, I think this mainly because of the overall lack of professionalism. As the UFC continues to mature my views could change.
oh no they don't have boring personalities like fedor so they can't be good fighters.

LaserBuddha said:
I respect UFC fighters, but look how far Kimbo Slice got without actually knowing how to fight...
how far did he get? couldn't get out of TUF.
 
Phaethon0017 said:
Even the smallest guys are pretty top heavy. Bruce would be pretty capable of taking out their legs before even attempting a body shot.

What? How would he take out their legs. Someone like Jose Aldo could easily check his kicks and take him down.

If anything Lee had a horrible stance that would have been exposed to singles and doubles all night.


Iadien said:
Stating that Bruce Lee couldn't fight on the ground and all of the other garbage makes it clear that you haven't learned much about him. As well as a few other UFC fans in this thread. =p

and acting like he was proficient enough to guard all the subs just shows how ignorant you are about grappling. He studied with famous Judoka for a short while and his fanboys act like he was a master in grappling.
 
smurfx said:
oh no they don't have boring personalities like fedor so they can't be good fighters.

Except I mentioned Silva, who has as much personality as anybody

NFL has lots of hilarious/explosive personalities and it's still a professional organization featuring the best of the best

Champions League teams have lots of players with hilarious/explosive personalities and it's still a professional organization featuring the best of the best

etc. etc. personality has little to do with it
 
X26 said:
Except I mentioned Silva, who has as much personality as anybody

NFL has lots of hilarious/explosive personalities and it's still a professional organization featuring the best of the best

Champions League teams have lots of players with hilarious/explosive personalities and it's still a professional organization featuring the best of the best

etc. etc. personality has little to do with it

Which other MMA organization has the UFC talent Pool? They may not have all of the best fighters there but they have the majority.
 
X26 said:
Again, I think this mainly because of the overall lack of professionalism. As the UFC continues to mature my views could change.

Nah, name a top 10 fighter in the UFC who isn't a professional fighter.

Speevy said:
How many UFC fighters can take a monster kick to the head? That's the question here.

Plenty have been tested and remained standing. How do you think Bruce would go taking a Cro-cop kick to his over-sized head?
 
Fusebox said:
Nah, name a top 10 fighter in the UFC who isn't a professional fighter.



Plenty have been tested and remained standing. How do you think Bruce would go taking a Cro-cop kick to his over-sized head?


Better yet. Name a weight class top ten list without a UFC fighter on it?
 
CaptYamato said:
and acting like he was proficient enough to guard all the subs just shows how ignorant you are about grappling. He studied with famous Judoka for a short while and his fanboys act like he was a master in grappling.

I never said he was a master. But to say that he couldn't grapple is ridiculous.
 
Speevy said:
How many UFC fighters can take a monster kick to the head? That's the question here.
mark hunt can.

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Honest question here for the UFC fans, how high- variance is UFC? Do fighters beat superior fighters a reasonable amount of the time?

For example, A mediocre baseball team can figure to beat a good baseball team around 40% of the time. Would anyone have a estimated figure for UFC fighters? I know I'm being really broad here, but a rough guess would be good.
 
mellowyellowod said:
Honest question here for the UFC fans, how high- variance is UFC? Do fighters beat superior fighters a reasonable amount of the time?

For example, A mediocre baseball team can figure to beat a good baseball team around 40% of the time. Would anyone have a estimated figure for UFC fighters? I know I'm being really broad here, but a rough guess would be good.


Not that much unless it is a freak punch. Like GSP vs Serra.


and the sport is called MMA.
 
Cro-cops head kicks are world-class, but Mark Hunts leg kicks are a force of nature too. I used to love watching him cut guys down back in his K-1 Oceania days.
 
John Dunbar said:
i'm sorry, but i refuse to even entertain the possibility that bruce fucking lee would ever lose a fight, under any circumstances.
Pretty much this. This isn't even a smartass remark cause I could actually not see it any other way.
 
HiResDes said:
I just think he'd fair better against the guys in the lightweight class, as the middle tier is pretty much wide open.
Interestingly, I would presume the exact opposite.

The bigger they get, the slower they get. The slower they get, the bigger Bruce's advantage. They'd certainly be more powerful, but that power isn't very valuable when you can't hit your target.

Sorry guys, I just don't see Bruce Lee in his prime getting beat. It could certainly happen, but I'd have to see it happen. It's the combination of skill, speed, power and indomitable spirit that would force me to believe it only if I saw it.
 
yacobod said:
brock lesnar is also freakishly fast and strong for his weight, doesn't do him a lot of good when he can't take a punch. no idea if bruce had a good chin or not.
He had a decent career. It's not a sport you can do for long. Not at that level.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Interestingly, I would presume the exact opposite.

The bigger they get, the slower they get. The slower they get, the bigger Bruce's advantage. They'd certainly be more powerful, but that power isn't very valuable when you can't hit your target.

Sorry guys, I just don't see Bruce Lee in his prime getting beat. It could certainly happen, but I'd have to see it happen. It's the combination of skill, speed, power and indomitable spirit that would force me to believe it only if I saw it.
how is bruce lee going to stop wrestlers from grabbing him? they aren't just going to swat at him they are going to go in full force. its not like the octagon is some huge stadium where bruce could back away all night long and not get caught.
 
Hasan said:
I'm sorry, but are these supposed to be world class figthers? He punched the air.

I think that was a feint.

At one point, those were two of the best heavyweight kickboxers in the world but they were fighting under a different ruleset there.
 
UFC is a sport, I don't think Bruce Lee would've cared to compete in. Completely different than a real fight. Not to mention most training and nutrition athletes use today came from Bruce's vision 50 years ago....
 
Hero said:
UFC is a sport, I don't think Bruce Lee would've cared to compete in. Completely different than a real fight. Not to mention most training and nutrition athletes use today came from Bruce's vision 50 years ago....
UFC is an organization.
 
Fusebox said:
Hit his weak point for massive damage.
Gator Doc said:
Hitting the point of the jaw from the side causes the mandible to act as a fulcrum rotating the head fast enough so the brain slams into the cranium. This is why it is easier to knock someone out when their mouth is open and when they don't see it coming because they are unable to tighten their jaw to prepare for the shot.
 
MMA is a sport. Could Bruce Lee fare well in the UFC? If he felt like it*, of course he could. The man was absolutely incredible. He may lose a couple of fights, sure, while he adapted to the rule set, but he'd figure things out right quick.

*of course he wouldn't feel like it, because why on earth would he want to waste his time with that? The guy was a philosopher. What use would limiting yourself for a spectator sport be to Lee?
 
jdogmoney said:
MMA is a sport. Could Bruce Lee fare well in the UFC? If he felt like it*, of course he could. The man was absolutely incredible. He may lose a couple of fights, sure, while he adapted to the rule set, but he'd figure things out right quick.

*of course he wouldn't feel like it, because why on earth would he want to waste his time with that? The guy was a philosopher. What use would limiting yourself for a spectator sport be to Lee?
different times my friend. the times of people believing in all that mystical martial arts B.S are over. somebody like bruce lee if he wanted to make a name for himself would have to get into combat sports to show himself to be superior.

Hasan said:
it was clumsy nevertheless for world class fighters.
right like world class professional athletes never make mistakes. much less in combat sports where you have to be reacting every second of the fight.
 
jdogmoney said:
MMA is a sport. Could Bruce Lee fare well in the UFC? If he felt like it*, of course he could. The man was absolutely incredible. He may lose a couple of fights, sure, while he adapted to the rule set, but he'd figure things out right quick.

*of course he wouldn't feel like it, because why on earth would he want to waste his time with that? The guy was a philosopher. What use would limiting yourself for a spectator sport be to Lee?

He would have fought in Pride, UFC or K-1 to prove his fighting ability against the best out there.

People still have this impression of the UFC as some organization of knucklehead pit brawlers? These people can fight - UFC has fighters which are easily some of the best, or flat-out the best, in their weight class in the world. You get cut in the UFC is you lose "too much," which for the majority of fighters is two or three times consecutively (or sometimes not consecutively, or even just once). Given that the UFC houses so much talent, this happens all the time.

smurfx said:
right like world class professional athletes never make mistakes. much less in combat sports where you have to be reacting every second of the fight.

World-class fighters have a 100% hit ratio, obviously.
 
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