Hundreds of Protesters and Supporters Clash Outside Trump Utah Rally
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Hale-XF11
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As registered republican in the state of Wisconsin, this makes me rock hard right now.
theignoramus
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Umm, they are going to nominate an establishment candidate who is just going to take away traditional Republican voters and independents from Trump. "Rick Perry" or whatever goofball they run as an independent isnt going to subtract enough would be Hillary voters to cost her the general.
Do as we say, not as we do. Not surprising coming from that party.
It's going to be glorious.
Likening Trump supporters to civil rights protesters has to be a new low. I mean fuck.
DontBeThatGuy
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Was this something that happened?
BinaryPork2737
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Oh my God, I just assumed that was about the anti Trump protesters. Jesus people.
gutter_trash
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to be honnest, Ted Cruz has not demonstrate great debating skills lately.
He is pandering to donors who have not comitted to him and he repeats the same boring lines over and over
Cruz's boring repeated debate lines
"If you are fed up of the last 7 years of (insert whatever)"
"We will repeal Obamacare" zzzzz
"we will abloish the EPA and the IRS" zzzz
"we will stand firm with the nationa of Israel" zzzzzz
Cruz sucks
Trump is campaigning for the angry uneducated guy while Cruz is campaigning for the donor class
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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This kind of rhetoric only empowers Trumpism - that is, the general resistance to American social and economic change, not necessarily Trump himself - by backing those who don't agree with you into a corner of asserted immorality. I'm all for protests, even ones like this, because disruption is a healthy part of a functional democracy, but people having reservations about specific forms of protest is hardly something to hammer people over.
When you got dat privelage being stuck in traffic is akin to housing discrimination
Captin Quacker
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Protest threads need a frequently used talking points disclaimer
Same setups same arguments every damn time
Same setups same arguments every damn time
You got to be kidding me if you're comparing Ted Cruz to Hillary in a debate,again he's gonna get slaughtered. Especially going into the general with the ''no substance bloated'' bullshit he's been spitting up to this point.
No way. Bernie has been handling most Clinton issues with kid gloves (outside of the banking donations and speeches). Trump is going to do everything he can to highlight Clinton's general untrustworthiness, and it is going to play well considering lots and lots of voters already consider her a liar.
Yeah he can't debate on policy and she will crush him there, but if he can keep it focused on attacking her character, Trump is going to do well. Judging by the republican race, he's pretty good at that.
Jacksinthe
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"Do not touch that barrier!"
-Continues to use barrier to physically assault people.
Yeah I'd snap in that situation. I'd snap pretty hard.
Maybe I'm not as cool headed as I'd like to believe I am. I'd be lying if I didn't say I felt that tinge of bloodlust come up just a little seeing those cops push people. This is one of those times when I'd say I need a drink but A) its barely 2:45 in the afternoon and B) I don't drink :/
I really don't know anymore. I've said before in this thread that stopping people from being able to listen is stepping on their liberty to do so but the more I see of shit like this the less likely I am to continue subscribing to that. Even though I KNOW its legitimately the right thing, I'm not sure I would be able to keep my cool.
I've done stupid shit before over racist/homophobic slurs directed at my friends far worse than a simple block so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite. I've calmed down over the years and TRY to take the high road but this entire climate and Trump's platform has been making my blood boil over.
Its difficult. A lot of you don't know where I am coming from with past experiences, as few as they may be but I was quite the hothead when it came to people not playing nice with others. Especially people who are my friends because they are all I have.
Yeah I'm fairly conflicted. Part of me wants to keep some semblance of liberties in tact while the other pulls me towards not giving a shit. Its difficult to keep a cool head. I try and succeed most of the time but man I have no middle ground. I'm always one asshole away from flipping that switch.
I'm a hypocrite, GAF. I say I'd like to keep things nice but part of me just begs to do the exact opposite sometimes. I'm pretty weak. I'll admit. I want to say I'd do the right thing but the more I think about this whole circus of a candidate the less likely I am to adhere to order for the shit he and his supporters are platforming on.
So pile on. I'm confused and pissed off at the same time. The longer this freak show goes on the harder it is for me to keep my cool.
O.v.e.rlord
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WOW!
These protests are stupid. Protests are supposed to speak truth to power. Trump currently holds no office and has no power. So what exactly is being protested here? The fact that he's running and racist fucks out there want to vote for him? Is the end goal to change Trump and his supporters minds? Yeah good luck with that... Look if Trump wins (he wont) go ahead and burn shit down, I'll be right there with you but for now this is pointless and if anything it emboldens Trumps supporters.
Plus physically blocking people from attending a political rally (regardless of the politics involved) just seems wrong to me.
Plus physically blocking people from attending a political rally (regardless of the politics involved) just seems wrong to me.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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"Wait until they gain total power, then try something."
"Dad, what did you do when Trump ran for president and said he was going to block off Mexico and ban Muslims?"
"Son, I told everyone to respect his opinion and waited until he gained power."
You lack the ability to see the underlying point of these protests.
Do a little more studying and try to understand why people are protesting this man's rallies.
gutter_trash
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so you supporting barring a candidate because you don't agree with him before election time comes?
as a candidate, he should be permitted to sell his case
+ he doing a good job at destroying the Republican's chance, let him proceed
He's not barred from anything. These protests aren't illegal, they are the natural reaction of a multicultural nation towards racist demagoguery.
And no one is entitled to a public platform. Which he still has, by the way.
He was talking to a GOP audience. An audience that is for a lack of a better term dumb. I don't think it takes much to get them rooting and hollering as long as the person speaking sounds powerful.
So according to your logic, you wouldn't have protested Hitler? And when Hitler gets into office and outlaws protests, I guess it's just oh well according to you right?
If you're uneducated about a topic maybe don't speak about it trying to sound factual.
theignoramus
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Rapidly shifting racial demographics and 7 years of hard edge right wing propaganda from AM radio and FoxNews.
Its created a plurality of braying assholes who dont live in the realm of facts and logic, their worldview is based on angry feelings they have for the liberals and minorities they firmly believe are destroying the country from within.
How can Trump attack her character with all the shit he's said so far to get the Republican nomination? You have to be pretty clean yourself to sling dirt. You think Hillary is just going to ignore that and not hit back at him? If she starts making Hitler comparisons in the debate it's OVER.
TheLaughingStock
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Hillary should kick his butt in GE. I don't think Trump the GOAT can pull it off.
Christopher
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No it won't be, the Hilter references are so overused it's lost it's meaning.
She hits him at policy a his inexperience of knowing nothing in politics just ask him for a direct answer to a question and don't pussyfoot around it. When he literally can't answer a damn thing it seals the deal
CassidyIzABeast
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The only Trump I support is Teanna. Eat a bag Donald.
EdibleKnife
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He has power. He has money, fame, the attention of the news, multiple people working in all corners of the net to make him look good, a gaggle of people who've gotten drunk on his hateful bigotry, he has the power to lie on TV and rarely being called on it because of his influence on their ratings and companies as a whole, he has the power to sway a large swath of America with hatred, people with more money than I'll ever see in my life backing him, the support of the oldest and still running white supremacist group, hell the in the first republican debate he pretty much opend with how he's financially backed other people on the stage. He has more power than the protesters combined and had used it to amass the base he has now.
Also no protester is trying to change any Trump supporters mind because they are already lost by the basic fact that they are Trump supporters
I'm not saying she HAS to use a Hitler reference but my point is that she can bring up the racist fascist things he's said to get the nomination.
Come on dude. Trump is not going to win a general election he may not even get the nomination. You know that. If we lived in a world where Trump could win a national election there would be a lot more to protest besides political rallies.
You must lack the ability too since you failed to actually let us know what the point is.
Actually say something then I might have a conversation with you.
gutter_trash
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amen!
DontBeThatGuy
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We're on the same page here.
EdibleKnife
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How do you know he won't win exactly? We're still here because Trump shattered all the expectations of political analysts and experts even within the GOP. The fact that he has a chance is why people should and are standing up. The world we live in where Trump can even still be taken seriously is one that is in most need of a feverish push back against his ideals
Angelus Errare
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White people feel like they're being marginalized and that for decades the government has not been looking out for their best interests never once having that moment of clarity that the government has pretty much always done what they've wanted the government to do just not realizing that what they've been wanting the government to do is the reason they're fucked over in the first place.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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soundahfekz
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It's funny to hear people talk about the world's worst leaders from the past with such disdain and horror. The irony is they fail to see how people just like them, who's daily routines were "inconvenienced" allowed the shit to happen. It wasn't overnight either. Slow, deliberate apathy enabled the terrible leaders of the past. People's commute over community allow that shit to happen.
So then it's "oh I wish we had a time machine to stop "x". Well the time is now, instead of rocking back in some sqeaky ass office chair being complacent and apathetic
So then it's "oh I wish we had a time machine to stop "x". Well the time is now, instead of rocking back in some sqeaky ass office chair being complacent and apathetic
That's because it's intended to be entertainment. There's no policy discussion or deep political insights at his rallies because he doesn't have any to begin with. Entertainment is America's language and Trump speaks it very, very well. I'm honestly surprised it took so long for someone to come around and exploit it so effectively.
Vicetrailia
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If you don't want people to block streets you better not vote trump in the general. Or else you'll be late to work!
Because Hillary probably won't stoop to his level? It's pretty easy to fling shit when he's the only one digging around in their pants.
TatteredHat
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I'm glad my country's elections aren't this crazy, what the heck you guys.
ThisGuy
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andthebeatgoeson
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You almost got me to Google that. I was like, 'Hmm, is that one of his daughters I've never seen?'
The Tea Party was actually a party with a DJ.
Haha. There is some truth to this. A trump presidency will lead to massive amounts of protesting, you better believe it. Nationwide. Unless he makes it illegal...wouldn't put it past him...
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