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Hypothetical becomes real : I found a wallet w/ $600 in it..

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Strange, you always hear people ask the question about what you'd do if you found a lost wallet, but you never really expect to actually find one....as I did walking home the other night.

So anyway, contacting the owner would be a relatively simple task, but damned if this isn't a ton of money. There's no credit cards or anything, but the IDs put the owner around my age....which means that all this cash is probably not some rich dude's chump change, and is somewhat important.

The funny thing is that I don't think I would have any trouble returning it if there was a couple hundred bucks, but damn I could use half a grand. It would probably be an interesting experiment to drop wallets all over the place with different sums of money inside them, and see whether people are more likely to return the large sums or the small sums. On one hand you'd think they would be more apt to steal it if there's a lot of money, but on the other hand they might feel bad about depriving someone of so much cash (while taking 50 to 100 bucks might be more morally justifiable).

So I guess the options are many:

--take money, toss wallet in dumpster
--take money, throw wallet on ground outside and hope that someone else returns it (at least he gets IDs and stuff back)
--take money, return wallet to owner and claim that I found it without the cash (and deal with possible suspicion)
--return wallet with all money intact, feel very good about myself but reamain quite poor

Possible justifications for taking money: I could use it, IDs show he has a steady job and residence anyway (probably won't destroy his life), he gets an expensive lesson about why you shouldn't carry around huge sums of cash, finders keepers, nobody carries around that much money unless they are doing something illegal with it (drug buy)

Possible justifcations for returning money: It's not mine, he could really need it, etc, etc

So what would you do? What should I do?
 

bjork

Member
I'd return it because that's what I'd want someone to do if I lost my wallet.

Plus, bad karma is a bitch.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Take 3/4 the money then throw the wallet at the dudes door and get the fuck out of there in your car
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Tough decision. 1% of people would return it without hesitating. The answer lies in how much you believe in karma and how good it'll make you feel by returning it.
 

Dyne

Member
As long as the ID gets back to him, you know you've saved him a lot of headaches.

I've returned money. I was walking down a hallway one time, and this guy dropped $50. I quickly ran up and tapped him on the shoulder and gave it back. Then I felt bad for not just nabbing it.. haha.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I'd probably keep it because I'm so in the shitter right now financially, but then I'd probably feel really shitty about it. If you' stupid enough to carry around that much money on you and then lose it....then......umm....you don't deserve to have it......and I do...or something....
 

Chipopo

Banned
Sorry man. You already went down the slippery slope of pondering morality. Now you're better off giving it back.
 

Vandiger

Member
Eh after having lost my wallet once and having it returned with no cash. I'd personally take all the money and just return it. Hell, do what you want I don't freaking care :p
 

Miburou

Member
It would be funny if you returned it with all the money intact, and the guy turned out to be an asshole and started saying how he remembers there being more money in the wallet or something.
 

border

Member
Well, I am mildly superstitious, but my general feeling is that karma is either total bullshit (if you don't believe in reincarnation) or totally unproveable (no way to track it from life-to-life). Too many people are tortured and murdered undeservedly for karma to really exist.

In any case I feel kind of obligated to act quickly if I'm going to return the money....if I sit on it for a week I think the guy might be kinda cynical and suspicious and angry ;)
Lemurnator said:
I like how you wrote so much more for the justifications for taking the money than you did for returning.
Well the reasons for returning it are all pretty obvious.....and it's not some type of scorecard. One strong reason on one side can certainly trump many reasons on the other.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
Give it back. You know who the dude is and how to get it back to him thanks to the ID. If you keep it you're nothing but a thief. =P

I hate thieves. A lot. How can you screw over someone else just to benefit yourself? Just put yourself in the guy's shoes.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
MrCheez said:
I hate thieves. A lot. Just put yourself in this guy's shoes.
"Boy that sure was silly of me to drop my wallet. Whoever finds it sure is one fortunate fella! Kinda makes me happy knowing my misfortune is making somebody else's day. DRINK ON ME, EVERBODY!"

You know what to do, border.
 

Miburou

Member
If he keeps it, then yeah you could call him a thief, but if he gives it all back and the guy doesn't offer him at least a $100 reward then that guy's an ungrateful asshole who doesn't deserve getting it back.
 
I just thought who carries $600? What if the guy is a pimp? Or a drug dealer? Does he look like one? If so take the money then bribe him

everyone wins
 

MVS

Member
--return wallet with all money intact, feel very good about myself but reamain quite poor

It's what I would want done if it were my wallet. Then again, I don't have a wallet, so that's a moot point...
 

border

Member
How funny is it that many people are more interested in telling me what to do than discussing what they would do? =P

Please answer both questions.
 
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WHAT WILL HE CHOOSE?!
 
well I'd probably return it unless he looked like a pimp/drug dealer. The question of why he had $600 would bother me greatly but unfortunately its one of my character traits to do the right thing. DAMN YOU CONSCIENCE!
 

Miburou

Member
border said:
How funny is it that many people are more interested in telling me what to do than discussing what they would do? =P

Please answer both questions.

Me? I'd probably throw the wallet back (without taking anything), or return it to the guy. But that's because I don't need $600 that badly. Also, I would be more inclined to return it if the owner was a cute chick, and less so if he looked like an asshole.
 

Hollywood

Banned
Yeah but I think you missed one possible other 'good' option. Instead of giving it back, take the money to the Salvation Army or give it to a good cause. That's what I would struggle over, whether I should give it back or give it to someone else who may need it more. I've found stray money on the ground a lot, most ever was like $20 .. I usually keep it. I never found a wallet or anything though.

OK, but I would try to give it back though - because its not my money to say what to do with in the first place, even if you go the good route and give it to a good cause. Put yourself in his shoes, if you lost $600, wouldn't you want someone to give it back?
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
border said:
How funny is it that many people are more interested in telling me what to do than discussing what they would do? =P

Please answer both questions.

I would do exactly what I posted. :) I can easily see how it would be hard and play a number on your head, but in the end there really should not even be ANY question. Even if you don't believe in karma, there is no excuse to not help out your fellow man and treat others how you want to be treated IMO. And as I said, keeping it would be no different than robbing someone of $600.
 

Miburou

Member
You know, if someone returned my wallet with everything intact, but then told me that they'll keep all the cash that was in it, I'd probably just say "OK. Thanks".
 

Bristow

Banned
Best solution if you decide to keep it:

Tell the person you found his wallet, but there was no money in it. He gets his wallet back with his ID and you get a $600 reward for being a good samaritan.

You both win, baby.
 

Socreges

Banned
Yeah, it would eat me up inside if I kept the money. I would return everything, but it wouldn't be completely selfless because I'd be expecting a reward.
 

MoxManiac

Member
I try to live by the golden rule as best as I can, so i'd return it.

It's a lot of money, but I can always earn more money. I hate the fact the money makes people do horrible things to each other, really.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
Out of curiosity, you guys who say to keep the money... how many of you are actually being serious and would do the same yourself?

Just seems so low and scummy to me. =/
 

border

Member
Well you folks have at least helped me think up one other option:

Anti-Asshole Insurance : remove some portion of the money from the wallet (whatever you consider a fair reward), then mail the rest back to the owner's address. Guaranteed reward, guy gets 70-80% of his money back, along with all important IDs.

For the record, I would indeed feel pretty shitty if I were in his shoes. But then again, I wouldn't carry $600 on me and I wouldn't really expect to get it back.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
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But then again, I wouldn't carry $600 on me and I wouldn't really expect to get it back.

Don't try to come up with justifications to soften your own guilt. The fact that someone made a mistake shouldn't change anything - you don't know the circumstances and even if you did you do not have the right to take his 'punishment' into your own hands.

Give it all back. It is NOT your money. Period.
 

Docpan

Member
No, give it all back.

Just because he fucked up doesn't mean he should lose 20 - 30 percent of his money. What if he really needs it? And who carries 600 bucks in their wallet? It was there for a reason, so just give it back.
 
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