The Dutch Slayer
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I'm a white male from Europe and I feel the same way and I don't even life there!
Its fucking terrifying!
Its fucking terrifying!
I am terrified of a Trump presidency
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michaelius
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Hey he might be disaster when it comes to internal USA matters but he would still be upgrade over Obama when it comes to international policy.
As long as anyone else than Bernie wins we should be ok - since Bernie looks like even bigger weakling than Obama is.
If that distance is some other solar system, perhaps.
I see a lot of delusional things in this post.
I'm a white male from Europe and I feel the same way and I don't even life there!
Its fucking terrifying!
I'm a white male from Europe and i hope Trump wins (or Bernie). It would be entertaining as fuck. For the record, i don't think Trump, Bernie or Clinton as president would be disastrous given the checks and balances in the american system of governance. But what would i know, i'm just a passionated moderate from Sweden, lol.
Trump is an asshole, but it's so sad that he's actually the person who'd do the least damage on the Republican side. Cruz and Rubio are straight up evil. Like, sociopathic-tendency evil.
Who's "we"? White males? Sure I can see that.
Who's "we"? White males? Sure I can see that.
You Know Nothing
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From what distance? The moon?
If you think Trump understands presidential decorum and the nuances of diplomacy, you haven't been paying attention.
Dude gets elected president and he's almost certain to cause international incidents when he meets with a world leader with a dissenting opinion. You think relations with some countries are bad now, wait 'til Trump spends a visit interrupting and insulting them. Ever seen a war started over the President miming a jerk-off motion to another leader's face? You might be about to!
Journeywalker
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Checks and balances really worked out for W, didn't they?
Abstrusity
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Listening to Trump talk and reading up on his ideas just makes me think Hideo Kojima was on the money, over and over and over again. Thankfully, demographics don't look so great for him.
ElectricBlanketFire
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So...it basically all comes down to the 15th, right?
Seth Enosh
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W wouldn't have invaded Iraq without congress passing the AUMF and voting money to fund the invasion and occupation, for what it's worth. It wasn't unilateral action and he was unable to enact the parts of his agenda that congress didn't sign on to (immigration reform, social security reform, etc.)
Trump as a world leader still disturbs me though.
I don't see how people come to this conclusion. At all.
The dude is flaring up racial tensions in the States, fearmongering against a religion, wants to go around either blowing up people's oil or somehow stealing it from the Iraqi and Syrian people, purposefully kill families of terrorists and gleefully torture people. Couple that with removing some people's access to healthcare all I have left to say in his defense is that, I dunno, he doesn't like the TPP? Perhaps we need to define "damage" here?
Or is this idea based on the idea, the hope, that he's really a secret Democrat? Problem with a liar is this, how do we not know that he wasn't a secret psychopath back then pretending to be liberal?
theignoramus
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The latent bigotry being exposed in the Trump campaign gives truth to the words Eric Holder spoke in his Nation of Cowards speech. The passage of time has completely vindicated the words of reflection and forewarning in Holders address. Those who attacked it so viciously for its "pessimism" ,those who had swallowed the fantasy of a new post racial era, that braying hoarde, in the cold light of day have been exposed as cowards, soothsayers, and fools.
Eric Holder said:
j_k_redtail
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Hear, O America. The Lord, Our Trump, is One.
What check and balances are against his stupid big mouth? Against insulting half of the globe nations and starting diplomatic conflicts just because some other leader mentioned "hands" in his speech?
How is he going to make Mexico pay for the wall and Germany and China not produce iPhone component?
If he has no issues now insulting entire races and religions, what check and balances would stop him as president? He already talks about broadening national laws and breaking the international laws to allow US to behave in the same way as ISIS.
Isn't this the exact same tactics that Trump propose, though? With "torture the families" on top?
Fancy Clown
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You said it man, diplomacy's for pussies
ElectricBlanketFire
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Trump says basically the same stuff
Fancy Clown
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Sad but true. Cruz is a human rectum. Trump is like getting shot to death and Cruz is like being eaten alive. Either way you're dead, but one way is a lot worse.
ElectricBlanketFire
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But Trump doesn't necessarily mean it like Cruz does.
Fancy Clown
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And he has some policies that are comparatively liberal
Everything but the mandating prayer! But with Trump you get the added benefit of pushing back the first amendment making it easier for politicians and businesses to sue people who write critical pieces about them. 'Bout the only "liberal" thing about Trump seems to be his stance on abortion and I can imagine a great deal of people rushing to get them rather than bringing their children into a Trump Presidency era.
Haunted
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That's why Cruz is doing so well. They see his hate.
For what it is worth, Lyndon Johnson used to pull out his penis and wave it at foreign dignitaries trying to intimidate them. We're still here.
... though as much good as he did for civil rights, his foreign policy was a disaster.
Journeywalker
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My point is that checks and balances aren't worth very much when a president can, through FUD, bully congress into accepting what was almost certainly a lie.
He went hard in on the Central Park 5 and got sued for housing discrimination. He's been a bigot for a long time.
Eh... Trump's entire schtick has been about getting votes from a demographic that many people did not want to believe existed in current times. We should probably look at Trump's actual interactions with world leaders, politicians, business folk, celebrities, and the GP from pre-political campaign. He might be tarnishing his reputation now, but there is a reason he was so successful across so many formats.
Because he deals mostly with other rich white people and being a bigot carries no social penalty?
Of course that demographic exists. Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, etc have been pandering to them for years. Trump is just better at it.
LeeRoyBrown
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I'd be terrified of any government at any point. They need less control of everything.
UnluckyKate
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I like how people say impeachment or supreme Court or Senate could keep Trump in line. And what about international diplomacy? The guy comments on everything like a hothead. I wonder if USA will go back lower than Bush administration levels of USA in international views
Ganzlinger
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Tell me you don't want to hear trump insult Putin after failed diplomacy talks
FrenchMovieTheme
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What?? Trump is for murdering the families of terrorists.
It blows my mind when people say things like yeah trump is bad but not as bad as so and so! Yes he is and it would be a fucking disaster
TheLaughingStock
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Remember when Eric Holder served justice to people of color targeted by fraud and helped restore over half of their wealth that evaporated?
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Look--both are terrible. Both would be terrible leaders.
But Cruz is on a whole different level. Think about it: he works in Congress where it is nearly impossible to avoid grouping with others of your same goals. He has ONE friend in Congress. One. And, to top it off, his friend is a crazy far-right nutball. Nobody stumps for the guy. Nobody likes him. Coworkers and former friends think he is the worst person in the world.
I don't like Trump but I think he would at least be willing to work with others. Cruz literally thinks democrats are evil and shouldn't have any say.
Nexus Zero
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America has global projection, I don't consider myself "at a distance"
Have you seen how many times Trump says "He was a friend of mine" and he's no more over some petty thing? Like Forbes not evaluating his fortune in the same way he brags about it. Or because Bloomberg said "I find the level of discourse and discussion distressingly banal and an outrage and an insult to the voters". That's his level of "willing to work with others". He will maybe negotiate with democrats if they don't look at his hands or something.
He's a self centered egomaniac who doesn't care about anything outside his own well being. There is nothing "better" about Trump.
Edit: I don't think Cruz is better, but I think Cruz has no chance of winning while Trump is unpredictable and has a cult like following which is far more dangerous.
FrenchMovieTheme
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it's like the NFL qb rating. if you go 0/20 with 10 int's, your rating is 0. if you go 0/50 with 20 int's, your rating is zero. one is "worse" than the other if you look at the basic numbers but they are both god awful and at some point you say well did the extra 10 int's even matter? you were already as low as you can go so who really cares if the first number is slighty less worse when you're dealing with something so bad?
I can see Cruz vetoing every budget that comes across his desk.
Assuming Cruz ever becomes president and assuming the Democrats manage to pass the budgets, he can veto just once, no?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The major difference I have seen between the two are the instances during the debate where Trump shows he at least somewhat cares about the poor, especially when speaking about not letting people die on the street without health care.
During that whole exchange, Cruz only cared that the government was paying for it.
The best analogy I can come up with is that Trump is Darth Vader, Cruz is the Emperor.
Rubio = Admiral Ozzel?
Need two-thirds vote in both houses to override a veto. Good luck, Paul Ryan.
TheLostBigBoss
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it's all fun and games till that "distance" goes from across the ocean to watching a marine kicking your door down!
So far, Donald has openly stated intent to:
- Commit war crimes with the help of the US military
- Change the laws so he can imprison dissenters and critics
- Create a list of all Muslims in the country
- Ban every Muslim from entering the country
- Build a wall that he will make another country pay for
He is a fascist and people should start taking his ambitions seriously.
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