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[shantyman]

Where are you getting that from?

The article (and even the quote I posted) explicitly state that.

To compensate, publishers can be expected to raise retail prices - even Nintendo, though it is forgoing high definition.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I think this dude might be on to something here, why didn't I think of that!

Probably because it doesn't fit. MS aren't supporting that either, so how are Nintendo alone in it?

 

[SantaC]

To compensate, publishers can be expected to raise retail prices - even Nintendo, though it is forgoing high definition.

So you came to the conclusion that only Nintendo tries to raise game prices (and therefor singled them out in the thread title) after that quote? Brilliant.

 

[Virgin Wii]

Nothing like starting your day with a nice wank and a misleading thread title.

 

[shantyman]

No where does it even say increased prices of Nintendo games next gen.

Can you read? He clearly states they want to raise prices using collector content as a carrot. I mentioned the HD thing because it was in the article too. I typed it up because I felt like it.

 

[Prine]

argh, so they are trying to raise prices? George is higher up then Perry yes??

:/

 

[capslock]

Ehhh, well then I don't know, for one, this article does not name a single where it has gotten confirmation for the not supporting HDTV thing, two, the same newspaper quoted Kaplan just a few days ago saying the opposite. Third, I don't see why Nintendo would tout a "disadvantage" just a day before unveiling their console.

 

[shantyman]

So you came to the conclusion that only Nintendo tries to raise game prices (and therefor singled them out in the thread title) after that quote? Brilliant.

No, I singled them out because they are the only company with a quote from a rep stating anything to this effect in the article. It said MS is going to recoup higher development costs though their microtransactions.

Damn you fanboys are sensitive. What do you want me to say? Nintendo fucking sucks? I'll say it if you want.

EDIT: If i wanted to be misleading I would have posted "Nintendo to raise game prices next gen." Notice I used the word "try."

 

[lexi]

Yes, how dare Nintendo force higher prices upon us with collector conte...

 

[SantaC]

argh, so they are trying to raise prices? George is higher up then Perry yes??

:/

All publishers are trying to raise prices for next gen. There have been articles on this in the past. I am not sure why Nintendo alone is singled out in this thread.

 

[Virgin Wii]

No, I singled them out because they are the only company with a quote from a rep stating anything to this effect in the article. It said MS is going to recoup higher development costs though their microtransactions.

Damn you fanboys are sensitive. What do you want me to say? Nintendo fucking sucks? I'll say it if you want.

EDIT: If i wanted to be misleading I would have posted "Nintendo to raise game prices next gen." Notice I used the word "try."

Don't be fucking dense. You can't actually be this stupid.

 

[aperfectt00l]

Yes, how dare Nintendo force higher prices upon us with collector conte...

:lol ex-fucking-actly :lol

 

[themadcowtipper]

Wow, If this is the quality of post to expect come e3, the terrorist have already won

 

[Prine]

God that tin is sexy

 

[shantyman]

I did not mean to start a flame war, and I did not mean to be a troll, honestly. I read the article and saw this bit about higher prices. All I have heard are rumors about higher prices, and this was the first direct quote from anyone that I have read that states a specific intent to raise prices, even if with collector content. If the fact that it was a Nintendo person who stated this offends people, I'm sorry.

I am not going to post any more as I do not want to fan the flames any more.

 

[lexi]

God that tin is sexy

Agreed

This article is simply stating that we may be paying $60 next-gen for a tin-encased Zelda game, for example. People need to watch their knee-jerk reactions.

 

[ThongyDonk]

Nothing like starting your day with a nice wank and a misleading thread title.

Had Hot loving with the missus myself

 

[ChronoMagnus]

Wow, If this thread managed to tick people of. Just imagine what is going to happen tomorrow. Blimey! It sucks that i have final exams tomorrow and wont be able to par take in the festivities. I think we should start choosing alliances now. The lines have been drawn, the battlefield is waiting. E3 is surely a sign of the up comming apocalypse. :lol

 

[capslock]

Had Hot loving with the missus myself

I thought your cat was at the vet's?

 

[themadcowtipper]

Wow, If this thread managed to tick people of. Just imagine what is going to happen tomorrow. Blimey! It sucks that i have final exams tomorrow and wont be able to par take in the festivities. I think we should start choosing alliances now. The lines have been drawn, the battlefield is waiting. E3 is surely a sign of the up comming apocalypse. :lol

It is not the thread, but the way he singled out Nintendo when every company charges higher for collector's editions.....

 

[MrDaravon]

I like how people are upset about $60 dollar games, when I remember paying $99 for PS 4, $79 for FF 3/6 and Chrono Trigger, etc, etc. The fact that games have stayed at 50 dollars this long is practically an act of God. Hell, wasn't retail on many NES games, nearly TWENTY years ago 39 or 49+? Get over it people.

 

[capslock]

I like how people are upset about $60 dollar games, when I remember paying $99 for PS 4, $79 for FF 3/6 and Chrono Trigger, etc, etc. The fact that games have stayed at 50 dollars this long is practically an act of God. Hell, wasn't retail on many NES games, nearly TWENTY years ago 39 or 49+? Get over it people.

Hear hear, I remember that Romance of the 3 Kingdoms for the NES was $70, and that was back in 1990...


then again, ROM chips used in carts are more expensive than optical media.

 

[gamergirly]

Wasnt Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and 3 like $50 apiece anyway?

 

[SantaC]

googled, and found this.

Videogame prices set to rise on next-gen consoles
Illustration
Rob Fahey 15:37 17/03/2005

$59.99 or higher being eyed as a potential price point for next-gen launch titles

Software for next-generation home consoles looks set to be more expensive than current titles, with comments from leading publishers such as Take Two, Activision and THQ all pointing to premium price points for AAA next-gen titles.

Speaking at the Banc of America Securities Consumer Conference yesterday, representatives of all three companies indicated that higher prices for software are inevitable on the next-gen platforms - the first of which, Xbox 2, will launch later this year.

Price points of $59.99 or higher were mooted for AAA games on the new consoles at launch - but other titles may be priced less expensively, with THQ acknowledging that its children's titles may not be able to sustain a $49.99 or higher price point, while Take Two simply said that its next-gen games would be priced higher "where appropriate".

This strategy is likely to see a two-tier structure emerging for game pricing, where premium titles command a premium price point of $59.99 or more, while less important games are sold for between $39.99 and $49.99 - much closer to the current price point.

While the cost of developing next generation games will undoubtedly be higher than current development costs, the proposed price hike is less to do with development, and more down to a desire among publishers to expand their margins - with the hardware transition apparently seen as a perfect chance to accomplish this by bumping up software prices.

Leading US retailer Electronics Boutique, which also presented at this week's conference, also acknowledged that prices were set to rise in the coming year - but like the publishers themselves, made it clear that the market would only sustain premium prices on certain products.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7480

 

[shantyman]

I lied, one more reply.

I don't know how relating something from an article (uing QUOTES) means I can't read, but whatever.

And SantaCruzer, I do not search out articles like that. I simply found this one thing in an artcile I was reading (which of course was on a different topic).

 

[capslock]

While the cost of developing next generation games will undoubtedly be higher than current development costs, the proposed price hike is less to do with development, and more down to a desire among publishers to expand their margins - with the hardware transition apparently seen as a perfect chance to accomplish this by bumping up software prices.

:-(

 

[Tedesco!]

It is not the thread, but the way he singled out Nintendo when every company charges higher for collector's editions.....

I think he singled them out because Nintendo had someone official making the statement. I don't think it's because he has a grudge against them.

 

[capslock]

I lied, one more reply.

I don't know how relating something from an article (uing QUOTES) means I can't read, but whatever.

And SantaCruzer, I do not search out articles like that. I simply found this one thing in an artcile I was reading (which of course was on a different topic).

dude, just be glad you didn't get a 'Hi, I can't read' tag...

 

[SantaC]

I lied, one more reply.

I don't know how relating something from an article (uing QUOTES) means I can't read, but whatever.

And SantaCruzer, I do not search out articles like that. I simply found this one thing in an artcile I was reading (which of course was on a different topic).

yeah yeah, it's cool I didn't change the thread title.

 

[shantyman]

dude, just be glad you didn't get a 'Hi, I can't read' tag...

I'm sure I'll get one now.

 

[Tim the Wiz]

Same place. One article that has a direct quote from a Nintendo representative on HD gaming. While the other contains a statement by the author before leading into what another Nintendo representative said.

So, should I trust a NY Times writer or Nintendo of America's Vice-President of Corporate Affairs? Well, I'd go with the latter.

Therefore, at this point, the Revolution ...

will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

And if you don't want to follow this logic, here's an alternative:

Nintendo am one generation behind!!!11 OMG BOMB -1 Revolution

Edit: "I don't know how to read: The Official Thread"
:lol :lol :lol

 

[Mama Smurf]

That's not a direct quote from her. Here's what's said:

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

Now I would hope that everything following "Ms. Kaplin said" or possibly "wireless controller" is still something she actually said, but these fucking newspapers sometimes...they take no care in separating their own speculation and what they were told. That's sometimes intentional, but I doubt that's the case here.

So I hope it's like this:

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

and not this:

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplin said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

where the bolded bit is what she actually told them, and the unbolded is just an extra they decided to add as it's probably right.

Anyway, just saying. I'm not trying to make it seem like the newer article is true, I just want it clear that Perrin Kaplan might not have actually said it'd play HDTV games. If it was definite, I wouldn't have bothered with this new article at all.

EDIT: I can't believe the NYT would put an apostrophe in DVDs. Ermm...unless they're right. In which case I'm an idiot.

 

[Zilch]

Topic change: justice served.

 

[Donnie]

The article says publishers will be increasing prices and even Nintendo will for some special content. Which clearly indicates that Nintendo will be one of the publishers increasing costs least. So why do we get a article/thread bashing Nintendo instead of all the other publishers out there?

Also it just shows how good this article is when they claim Revolution won't support HDTV. Despite the fact that Nintendo said officially a couple of days ago that they will support it.. Why do we always see this kind of sensationlist hack journalism when it comes to reporting on Nintendo?

 

[Shig]

I like how people are upset about $60 dollar games, when I remember paying $99 for PS 4, $79 for FF 3/6 and Chrono Trigger, etc, etc. The fact that games have stayed at 50 dollars this long is practically an act of God. Hell, wasn't retail on many NES games, nearly TWENTY years ago 39 or 49+? Get over it people.

So you, say, wouldn't be opposed to DVDs going back to around $30 a pop, because that's what they used to cost? You think they would see the success they've seen if they hadn't been steadily dropping in price over the years?

You seen the manga section of bookstores recently? It's 500% bigger than it used to be, in most cases. That's a direct result of publishers lowering prices from $15+ to $8-10 a book.

Raising prices is the polar opposite of what the game industry should be doing if they want signifigant success and expansion.

 

[shantyman]

MS believes in doing it like Nintendo:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/615/615893p1.html

Steve: We don't set the price, the retailers do. We can recommend the price, but that seems to me like the retailers are speculating those prices. We're not setting them. Higher prices are better executed with incremental increases, like some of our premium content, rather than a wholesale jump.

For all you sensitive Nintendo Fans, if the original areticle posted had the Ballmer quote, I would have posted "MS to try to raise game prices next gen." (original thread title before some smart ass mod who can't read either changed it) There is no anti Nintendo consspiracy at work.

Also, AFAIK, Nintendo did not make big deal about HD at their conference and the other guys did. Is this correct?