I find Pop-GAF utterly baffling (RANT)

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Nelly certainly has me popping a few things.
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Aguirre said:
yes, carrie underwood does

13,506,000 total records sold

the sales dont lie.
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Preach.
 
Satch said:
how are you gonna like the worst pop singer out of all of them tho
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I don't listen to much pop music, or the radio for that matter, but she is like the only one who makes music that I find catchy on a regular basis. Rihanna is a mixed bag, Taylor Swift is aight. Lady Gaga is horrible. And the last Britney song I heard was Till the World Ends, so.....
 
royalan said:
I guess singers like Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, and Judy Garland aren't real musicians because they didn't write their own lyrics. Never mind their near-absolute mastery of the human voice as an instrument and emotional conduit - they didn't pen those lyrics! Biggie wrote them lyrics!
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This is a completely bullshit comparison because, with few exceptions, the singers in today's pop canon have almost zero interpretational muscle and are generally, at best, competent technical singers. Their interpretations of the pieces that are written for them are irrelevant because those interpretations are strictly controlled by a producer and, dare I say it, marketing.

Yes, a singer doesn't have to compose their own work. But when a singer isn't responsible for interpreting music or composing music, one has to wonder what she is responsible for.

If you like pop music, fine; there's no need to rationalize it by making ridiculous comparisons. Mainstream music is a business, not a meritocracy.
 
Nelly F. without dick: "I'm like a bird wanna fly away"

Nell F. with dick: "She's a man-eater..."

Kyon is my soon to be Waifu /snuggle
 
MattKeil said:
If you're lumping Satoshi Kon's work in with the usual anime hate, you are the one in the wrong.
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There is no hate, but I'm sure that in the real world (outside of GAF), people consider anime uncool, geeky and childish. Like gaming. Or reading comics. Or listening to pop music. My point is one could easily rewrite OP's rant replacing "pop music" with "anime" so his prejudice struck me as ironic.

PS. Satoshi who?
 
Artist don't need to write their own songs. Sure, you will respect the artist as a writer/musician if they do, but that doesn't mean songs not written by them are bad.
 
I don't pay much attention to the community, but I find the devotion to a genre of music that by design has no purpose other than to create commercialized, catchy singles to get replayed as much as possible on Top 40 radio stations, not to mention the near worshipping of manufactured personalities for whom everything is meticulously constructed by teams of songwriters, stylists, and costume designers, all rather odd. What artistic integrity is there isn't even possessed by the individuals who get all the attention, and I find little to speak of if the music has no ambition other than to be as catchy as possible.

I'm not saying I want every piece of music to have the complexity and musicality of a Beethoven symphony. But I find the artists who do try to get at more complex emotions and play with different forms and structure instead of finding new variations of the same old formulas more interesting.
 
KevinCow said:
There are a handful of GAF communities that I am utterly baffled by and choose to just ignore. Pop-GAF is pretty much at the top of that list. Also included are stuff like Hip-hop-GAF, Wrestling-GAF, and any Sports-GAF

Seems to work out pretty well for the most part, but it does get annoying when they invade some thread that I was otherwise interested in and start throwing their horrible reaction gifs back and forth.
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Gaf hop ain't about that .gif life son.
coldvein said:
yeah, they're weirdos alright. not because they're into pop music but because they're in a gif based pop music cult on the internet. .. two totally different things.
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This can't be stressed enough. Pop music is fine. Epilepsy inducing pop gaf threads are another thing.
 
MormaPope said:
Posting like a faux pas model or singer using personality and gimmicks from pop singer songs and music videos.
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We just use hyperbole to express ourselves (just like the folks on gaming side
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), except we're self aware, know we're doing it, and expect it to be reciprocated by the others in the group. That's part of the fun. It's like a boys club except with girls allowed (
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It's ribbing, just like what's done by sports fans with each other.


I think the one person in PopGAF that's actually run closest to imitating a pop star is Modmei. He's smart and witty, so his remarks are backhanded, scathing, and will make you cry yourself to sleep at night... just like Mariah's ;_;

A master of the craft, really. The rest of PopGAF tried it tho.
 
Fugu said:
This is a completely bullshit comparison because, with few exceptions, the singers in today's pop canon have almost zero interpretational muscle and are generally, at best, competent technical singers. Their interpretations of the pieces that are written for them are irrelevant because those interpretations are strictly controlled by a producer and, dare I say it, marketing.

Yes, a singer doesn't have to compose their own work. But when a singer isn't responsible for interpreting music or composing music, one has to wonder what she is responsible for.

If you like pop music, fine; there's no need to rationalize it by making ridiculous comparisons. Mainstream music is a business, not a meritocracy.
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Sing it, duh.

Whether or not current singers have adequate ability to interpret the music written for them is not up to you to decree.
 
faceless007 said:
I don't pay much attention to the community, but I find the devotion to a genre of music that by design has no purpose other than to create commercialized, catchy singles to get replayed as much as possible on Top 40 radio stations, not to mention the near worshipping of manufactured personalities for whom everything is meticulously constructed by teams of songwriters, stylists, and costume designers, all rather odd. What artistic integrity is there isn't even possessed by the individuals who get all the attention, and I find little to speak of if the music has no ambition other than to be as catchy as possible.

I'm not saying I want every piece of music to have the complexity and musicality of a Beethoven symphony. But I find the artists who do try to get at more complex emotions and play with different forms and structure instead of finding new variations of the same old formulas more interesting.
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You need to listen to more pop music.
 
I do listen to top 40 stations on the way to class and stuff.

It seems like every other song has a bad rap verse in it.

Why do they do this?
 
A Pretty Panda said:
I do listen to top 40 stations on the way to class and stuff.

It seems like every other song has a bad rap verse in it.

Why do they do this?
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many of us in popgaf are tired of the rappers being put into pop music too

mariah carey was the hook-girl in her own damn song
 
MormaPope said:
Pop Gaf is not making a good case at all in this thread, that being said their taste and existence don't really phase me or confuse me. I'd say the oddest thing about that group is how they really try to excrete a diva attitude in their posts, it's really really really obnoxious.
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We don't phase you but we 'excrete' diva attitude which is obnoxious?

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Never liked the trend. But sometimes the song gets better with a rap verse.

Perra's ET is improved with Kanye's input. The original version is pretty basic imo
 
faceless007 said:
I don't pay much attention to the community, but I find the devotion to a genre of music that by design has no purpose other than to create commercialized, catchy singles to get replayed as much as possible on Top 40 radio stations, not to mention the near worshipping of manufactured personalities for whom everything is meticulously constructed by teams of songwriters, stylists, and costume designers, all rather odd. What artistic integrity is there isn't even possessed by the individuals who get all the attention, and I find little to speak of if the music has no ambition other than to be as catchy as possible.

I'm not saying I want every piece of music to have the complexity and musicality of a Beethoven symphony. But I find the artists who do try to get at more complex emotions and play with different forms and structure instead of finding new variations of the same old formulas more interesting.
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I think you're describing like 85% of modern music with this post.
 
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