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"I like having fun" is one of my favourite parts about Nintengamers. There's not the same obsession about framerates and resolution like we see in PC for example. People are just enjoying themselves.
Bro. They're taking advantage of their customers. $80 games, charging $90 for old games with dlc that isn't included, $10 demos, carts with nothing on them. If you don't see a problem with this you're not thinking clearly. Nintendo is anti consumer. The more they get away with the worse it's going to be.these business practices of making money?
Yeah. Probably sales of PS5 and PS5 Pro are gonna nosedive if a recession hits. What's a cheaper option for Timmy for the holidays...?People talk about this launch as if we already know exactly how it'll perform in the market. Sure, it's lifetime sales will almost certaintly be above the Wii U's, but that's also not hard to accomplish. The initial launch numbers will always be high no matter what. However, with a possible recession looming and the general population becoming more cautious with spending, it's gonna be super interesting to observe how this will be doing in the next 2-3 years. I would'nt be so sure this will be sold out everywhere this Christmas.
Unless they go by "complaining but still buying and hoping". Everything below that being missed profits.It's really not in their interest to raise prices to the point that people are complaining.
I'm really tired of this anti-consumer talk, most of us live in a wonderful capitalistic society where we can choose what to buy. Just because it's not floating your boat doesn't mean it's anti-consumer. It's a BS term, because if you're anti-consumer you won't have customers.Bro. They're taking advantage of their customers. $80 games, charging $90 for old games with dlc that isn't included, $10 demos, carts with nothing on them. If you don't see a problem with this you're not thinking clearly. Nintendo is anti consumer. The more they get away with the worse it's going to be.
Bro. They're taking advantage of their customers. $80 games, charging $90 for old games with dlc that isn't included, $10 demos, carts with nothing on them. If you don't see a problem with this you're not thinking clearly. Nintendo is anti consumer. The more they get away with the worse it's going to be.
Be as offended as you want to be for "consumers" in the abstract, but my actual experience as a customer is this:
I got the Mario Kart World bundle, so I'm paying $450 for the system (roughly what I expected) and $50 for MKW ($20 less than I expected). I'm already subscribed to the NSO Expansion Pack, and own both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, so I will be able to check out the enhanced versions of both of those games on launch day at no additional cost. I'm paying $0 dollars for Welcome Tour, because I have zero interest in it. I guess I might have played around with it for an hour or so if it was free, but its existence frankly would have no impact on my desire to buy the console, regardless of its price.
I'm not buying a new pro controller or any extra joy-cons, because the ones I already own for my Switch 1 are compatible and will be totally fine for when I want to play on the TV or have company over. In fact, I probably won't buy anything but the bundle itself between launch and when Donkey Kong releases in July, unless I decide to drop $15 on Fast Fusion.
Yes, I'm annoyed by the prospect that someday I will have to pay $80 for 3D Mario or the next mainline 3D Zelda, but right now I'm actually paying slightly less than I expected, and I'm not going to let my enjoyment in the present be spoiled by hypothetical futures where I pay more, especially when it looks like the entire industry is about to be hit by another wave of price hikes. I'm going to find joy where I can.
Nintendo fans are a lot like iphone enjoyers, they will buy any and all from their brand"I like having fun" is one of my favourite parts about Nintengamers. There's not the same obsession about framerates and resolution like we see in PC for example. People are just enjoying themselves.
The best games from the best developers.Nintendo fans are a lot like iphone enjoyers, they will buy any and all from their brand
Ever hear that ignorance is bliss ? Sometimes not knowing of other better or cheaper alternatives lets one live in a blissful ignorance with joy. While intelligence and research would only upset you.Nintendo fans are a lot like iphone enjoyers, they will buy any and all from their brand
Nintendo goes around using their legal department to strong arm charity. They ban loyal customers for legally modding their consoles to enable basic functions they should already have. They don't have enough respect for their customers to be transparent about pricing and give horrible excuses for their blatant nickle and diming.I'm really tired of this anti-consumer talk, most of us live in a wonderful capitalistic society where we can choose what to buy. Just because it's not floating your boat doesn't mean it's anti-consumer. It's a BS term, because if you're anti-consumer you won't have customers.
Every company takes advantage of their customers, that's the whole point of consumerism. If you don't like, go live in the woods. If Nintendo thinks MKW is worth $80 that's on them to prove it. Splatoon 2/3 cost $60 and has zero microtransactions, and a shit ton of replay-ability unlike any shooter out there, it's the most "pro-consumer" shooter ever. EVER. with the amount of content it's getting updated with.
Costs have risen across the board, if you don't like it find another hobby.
And before you say anything, of course I'd love for Nintendo to be giving my games for free and giving me anal sex a few times a week. But life doesn't work like that.
Much passive aggressive I sense in you.Ever hear that ignorance is bliss ? Sometimes not knowing of other better or cheaper alternatives lets one live in a blissful ignorance with joy. While intelligence and research would only upset you.
Maybe, but I think they're smart enough to know that anti consumer will end up being anti business for them in both short term and longterm.Unless they go by "complaining but still buying and hoping". Everything below that being missed profits.
They're making…8-10 million of them at least the first year. And you're worried you won't be able to get one? End of June by the latest, and that's if you don't pre-order. You just look around and get lucky.I couldn't get a pre order so now I hope it fails.
This is so funny to me. Like the whole selling concept being made to us by Nintendo to justify the Switch 2 is literally better, faster games. Which is a philosophy/ concept we haven't seen them use since the GameCube."I like having fun" is one of my favourite parts about Nintengamers. There's not the same obsession about framerates and resolution like we see in PC for example. People are just enjoying themselves.
Ever hear that ignorance is bliss ? Sometimes not knowing of other better or cheaper alternatives lets one live in a blissful ignorance with joy. While intelligence and research would only upset you.
I think Nintendo still feels nauseous after the Wii U debacle so they desperately want people to know that there is a difference and that it is a brand spanking new console. But yeah, they are surprisingly focused on frame rates and resolution with this release. But I think they'll soon go back to just focusing on the games and not graphics.This is so funny to me. Like the whole selling concept being made to us by Nintendo to justify the Switch 2 is literally better, faster games. Which is a philosophy/ concept we haven't seen them use since the GameCube.
It didn't work then, but then again the GameCube had extremely poor third-party support, and its marketing color was purple. And they did a bad job educating people on how much more powerful it was than PS2.![]()
Yeah, they need a point a differentiation and certainly turning the joy con sideways to be a mouse is not gonna sell 100 million switch 2s. You know, especially with the people they put in charge of designing the console. There was no question it was just gonna be a significantly more powerful and fancier switch.I think Nintendo still feels nauseous after the Wii U debacle so they desperately want people to know that there is a difference and that it is a brand spanking new console. But yeah, they are surprisingly focused on frame rates and resolution with this release. But I think they'll soon go back to just focusing on the games and not graphics.
... Games that I can play on PC sooner or later. It's redundant.
We're halfway through the console's lifespan and we only got 3-ish actual exclusives.
Bananza looked amazing at first, but I'm not so sure I'm hyped about going around smashing things for +10 hours. If it had better platforming and adventure elements then maybe, but so far it feels more like a tech demo. Hopefully I'm wrong. MK looks amazing, but yeah, it's weird how barebones this release feels. I really hope we get to hear news about Zelda or Mario this summer.I think donkey Kong looks very weak and not compelling and I also think that there aren't any other first party games that I find compelling outside of Mario kart, which is a bit unusual for them. normally when a new console gets announced, there's like this laundry list of franchises they're bringing over that they talk about a little bit. And maybe they're holding off on some of that for the June direct.. It may well be.
They're certainly putting a lot of their eggs in the basket of "double dipping on switch games for like a slightly modified experience playing the game again if you bought it before". Like for me I haven't played breath of the wild and several years and I never got around to forgotten world so I'm on board with that. But $80 for the switch 2 edition of Mario party just seems so ridiculous to me.
For Kirby, I'm just gonna buy another game voucher for the switch and use Kirby for one of those games and then just pay the $10 upgrade fee at some point when I get around to it
You haven't been reading Nintendo switch 2 threads lately right? Is all about the untapped potential...."I like having fun" is one of my favourite parts about Nintengamers. There's not the same obsession about framerates and resolution like we see in PC for example. People are just enjoying themselves.
Ever hear that ignorance is bliss ? Sometimes not knowing of other better or cheaper alternatives lets one live in a blissful ignorance with joy. While intelligence and research would only upset you.
What? It's using a translation layer but it runs Switch 1 games natively. Like PS4 to PS5.My excitement drastically dropped for the system when it was found that it would just emulate Switch 1 games. I wanted it to place my Switch and now it's just another system.
What are you honestly talking about? List the better/ cheaper alternatives to Nintendo Switch, and the content available on it that matches Nintendo first-party. You made the argument, let's see the examples.Ever hear that ignorance is bliss ? Sometimes not knowing of other better or cheaper alternatives lets one live in a blissful ignorance with joy. While intelligence and research would only upset you.
Didn't that lead to a video game crash where they were then forced to lower prices?OP, do you live on welfare in a trailer park without internet?
Even with the price rises games cost materially less than they did 20-30 years ago; should developers and publishers be stuck at an arbitrary $60 price point forever? And you need to recognise that your preference for physical games a niche interest that 90%+ of the market do not care about.
No?Didn't that lead to a video game crash where they were then forced to lower prices?
Its still playing them though, right?My excitement drastically dropped for the system when it was found that it would just emulate Switch 1 games. I wanted it to place my Switch and now it's just another system.
The problem is Nintendo has no competition really. Bad press has an effect when the consumer has somewhere to flee to. Where is the Pokemon enthusiast gonna go? Digimon? Palworld?I hope Nintendo gets taught a lesson about being too greedy, but realistically, I cannot see that happen this gen financially.
The only way they could lose is by bad press, but I don't think any company cares about bad press when it has no monetary impact whatsoever.
I bought a Switch 2 already for my GF since she's very into Zelda and Pokémon and while she too criticizes the looks and performance of the newer games, at the end of the day she still enjoys them and likes the franchises and will continue to buy them.
The original switch predictions thread needed a sequel.This thread is going to age like milk. You did it OP, this is going to be legendary.
Nintendo goes around using their legal department to strong arm charity. They ban loyal customers for legally modding their consoles to enable basic functions they should already have. They don't have enough respect for their customers to be transparent about pricing and give horrible excuses for their blatant nickle and diming.
I completely understand that companies have a duty to make as much as they can, but some at least try to give you added value in exchange. Some companies actually care about their customers and it should be clear to people at this point that Nintendo does not. This is not the company we grew up on. Unfortunately Nintendo have these IPs we all hold dear. Its apart of our childhoods so they use that against us.
It's your money, I have zero issue if you want to spend your money on $80 games and be taken advantage of. I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford it, but thankfully I have enough games to preoccupy my time to avoid Nintendo schemes entirely. I would be contributing to pricing out some poor kid if I just simped for Nintendo. Yes of course inflation is a thing, but the price increase of $80 is beyond inflation. They aren't providing real value they're just taking advantage.
Huh? What modern platform has full built-in native backward compatibility?My excitement drastically dropped for the system when it was found that it would just emulate Switch 1 games. I wanted it to place my Switch and now it's just another system.
Nintendo won't do shit compared to these tariffs my guy.Nintendo has chosen to go excessively anti-consumer and is actively attempting to make games less affordable for gamers everywhere by making every other publisher and platform holder think they are undervaluing their games.
Their current software pricing move with Switch 2 will ultimately damage the entire industry for their own short-term gain.
If you purchase the Switch 2, you are making an active and deliberate choice to make gaming more expensive and less accessible to everyone.
What Nintendo is doing to consumers is obscene. And the only voice they will listen to is their profit margin. Stop giving them your money and make them repent, or make gaming as a whole worse. The choice is yours.
Dude I just ran the numbers for a work project, and our cost per unit went from $9 to $35, making it completely untenable. If these tariffs don't get changed soon a lot of things are gonna be insanely expensive.Nintendo won't do shit compared to these tariffs my guy.
They've always been about profit. They're the FERENGI of the video game industry.*What happened to Nintendo being this mythical beacon of light in the dark world of greedy corporations?
Exactly .. and they will pay unfortunately. I've been afraid of this situation for years ...the publishers who know they have great games just bucking any pricing standards and charging moreWhat Nintendo is counting on is an an inverse situation where casuals may be more willing to pay for games like Mario Kart and Donkey Kong than core gamers... especially if they only really expect to buy key Nintendo titles anyways.