I hope the Nintendo Switch 2 fails really hard!!!

KungFucius

King Snowflake
You should be more mad about hyper inflation and most importantly of all tariffs from the newest resident across the Potomac River than Nintendo.
He lives in Florida actually, but I agree tariff threats were a major factor. Nintendo thought they needed to set their prices now, because things are going to be way more expensive in 5 years and their prices will be the same.

The game key thing is the worst. I know it is a safeguard against piracy but it is really putting piracy concerns above the needs of legitimate customers and that is bullshit. I hope the key cards end up being the thing that gets cracked just because it is such a cunty move. FFS you need to download the game and install and also have the one cart slot filled with this stupid piece of shit idea. They at least should allow transferring the key to the system and requiring it to transfer back if you want to share or sell.
 

KungFucius

King Snowflake
The Switch 2 probably won't fail but this is not going to be good for the industry. Will gamers pay a premium to buy the handful of prime Nintendo releases every few years - probably. But rising prices are only going to continue making gamers more and more selective with their purchases - so a select few games succeed while most games struggle to find an audience. We're already seeing this with the $70 price tag. I tend to think that if prices were lower more people would buy more games.
I am selective with purchases but have gamepass on PC too and I have kids 6 and almost 9. I was thinking I would get more games on Switch 2 so they could play in portable mode, but nope. Gonna buy the Mario, Metroid, Zeldas on that and nothing else. DK too, but basically it will be like my PS5, something for exclusives only.

80 bucks for Switch 1 ports is really obnoxious.
 

Boss Mog

Member
It's a local market for Japan, so they're going to make it cheaper for them.

If you're wondering why it's so expensive in some places like say the USA, well a new resident in Washington decided to impose tariffs on multiple countries and manufacturing countries.

It was well known that months ago with tariffs that imported stuff will be more expensive. So no, you're not going to get a Switch 2 for the same price as Japan.
So you go to blaming inflation (which Japan also went through during/after covid) but then when Japan has a much lower price for the system you "switch" to blaming tariffs but newsflash, it's the same price in the EU which isn't subject to the new US tariffs, so now that yet another explanation of yours has gone out the window, what will you "switch" to next?
 

Throttle

Member
So you go to blaming inflation (which Japan also went through during/after covid) but then when Japan has a much lower price for the system you "switch" to blaming tariffs but newsflash, it's the same price in the EU which isn't subject to the new US tariffs, so now that yet another explanation of yours has gone out the window, what will you "switch" to next?
They aren't even subsidizing it in Japan, just reducing margins. This uses a GPU from 2020, same year as PS5.
 
So you go to blaming inflation (which Japan also went through during/after covid) but then when Japan has a much lower price for the system you "switch" to blaming tariffs but newsflash, it's the same price in the EU which isn't subject to the new US tariffs, so now that yet another explanation of yours has gone out the window, what will you "switch" to next?

I've said multiple times in other threads that it was tariffs and hyper inflation why goods are expensive today. Hell, every economist is saying that.

You and the people complaining on everything from RTX cards, PS5 Pro, the Switch 2, $70 dollar games really thought the game industry was going to be immune to price increases?

Really?

With basic amenities seeing a price increase, of course other goods will have a price increase. That's just common sense.

Anyways you can have the "gotcha" moment. And here's a like too, from me. You got me man. lol
 

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The_Mike

I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Are you going to be mad about other games going up in price or it is just easy to scapegoat Nintendo?

I remember some people here defending a certain platform upping their game prices from 60 to 70 because that's a price they were more than willing to pay as long as its quality.
 
*If you are one of those hardcore Nintendo Cucks that worships everything that they do, this thread is not for you.

I am not a Nintendo Hater, In fact I own a switch with over 30 of the best physical games and dozens of digital games. What has been revealed from Nintendo is nothing short of corporate greed. Just comparing the Japanese price of the console (around $310) to my country the US ($449) is just one example of this. Nintendo ever since the SNES days have a long history of being arrogant pricks. From the SNES days all the way through the N64 they were notorious assholes to work with. Nintendo first got humbled with the n64 when the Sony PSX handed them their ass combined with the fact Nintendo would not budge off of cartridges. They were a little better with the Gamecube but again made the odd choice of those mini disk. Both the cartridge format from the n64 and the mini disk from the Gamecube were mostly made because they were afraid of piracy. The psx was cracked already and Nintendo were and still are control freak's with their IP's. Then they got humbled again with the WIIU. People were screaming when it revealed it was a stupid fucking name and confused casual consumers. Nintendo is a stuibborn company and rarely listens to criticism until it hits their bottom line. They hit the Jackpot with the Switch. It was a massive success and bigger than anyone thought it would be. Here we are again with another Cycle and arrogant asshole Nintendo is back.

The only thing that is going to humble Nintendo again is another big failure. Again Nintendo has a history of being an arrogant greedy company to work with. Until their bottom dollar starts getting hammered they aren't going to budge from this arrogant behavior. I have read credible stories that the Switch 2 has been done for almost a year but they didn't want to stop the original Nintendo Switch gravy train. I get going up a little bit but going up 30%-50% on software when it doesn't seem justfied is insane. People assume that the Switch 2 will be massive success but I really hope not. The Wii was a monster of a console than the sequel WiiU was a massive dud due to marketing and just not having mass appeal. The NIntendo Cucks will pay the $80-$90 for their software but I wonder if the mass consumer is willing to do the same. AS a Switch fan they priced me out of the market. I also as a physical switch guy hate the fact of this whole buying the copy and it only being a downlaod key. The fucking point of buying a physical copy is I can play it without being online or I can lend my cartridge to a friend, or sell it when I'm done etc. Nintendo is just trying to make an all digital library. Lets hope Nintendo fails hard and show the rest of the gaming industry this shit wont' be tolerated. I understand the price of goods has to go up eventually but the Quality of most software from all companies is rarely worth the new $70 msrp let along $80-$90 plus.
Op you will get your wish as tarrifs will probably send the price to 700 usd. Maybe I’m doing the math wrong.
 

clappedcheeks

Neo Member
I don’t understand the desire for Nintendo to fail. They run a business and it needs to be profitable to continue to be a business. Yes the pricing sucks but it’s not just Nintendo pushing the consumer, it’s everyone and it’s every part of our lives.

There’s a lot of talk about nostalgia being the main driver of their success, and there is some truth to that. I would also say that they make games with such charm and ingenuity that’s it’s hard to ignore them. They craft top tier gameplay experiences, yes it’s family friendly but it’s also mostly just balls to the wall fun. Sometimes it’s nice to mix in some wholesome gaming with our murder, death, kill games just for a bit of variety and nobody does wholesome better than Nintendo, except maybe team Asobi.
 

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I don’t understand the desire for Nintendo to fail. They run a business and it needs to be profitable to continue to be a business. Yes the pricing sucks but it’s not just Nintendo pushing the consumer, it’s everyone and it’s every part of our lives.

There’s a lot of talk about nostalgia being the main driver of their success, and there is some truth to that. I would also say that they make games with such charm and ingenuity that’s it’s hard to ignore them. They craft top tier gameplay experiences, yes it’s family friendly but it’s also mostly just balls to the wall fun. Sometimes it’s nice to mix in some wholesome gaming with our murder, death, kill games just for a bit of variety and nobody does wholesome better than Nintendo, except maybe team Asobi.
simple, they wont change tik forced too, the only way they change if sales struggle
 

lordrand11

Member

Cyberpunk is fully on a kart
Most Nintendo games are fully on the card

games will be labled as such. It really depends on the publisher
Thank you! This got buried at the bottom of my feed recently. That's good that Nintendo isn't trying to lead the charge on digital only.
 

Zacfoldor

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Damn yall mad. Should I be scared to bring my Switch 2 in public, lol? Why do you care, just don’t buy it if you don’t want to, like don’t try to control me. If I fucks with it I fucks with it, why you hating?
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Thank you! This got buried at the bottom of my feed recently. That's good that Nintendo isn't trying to lead the charge on digital only.
Steam's digital only system is the modern gold standard for video game sales, period.
Steam sells users games once across HW in contrast to Nintendo selling users the same game again and again across HW.
Steam sells games with a 2hr trial period and issues a full refund with no questions asked if users aren't 100% happy with a game.
All of these factors mean Steam's ecosystem never loses users.

Nintendo failing to understand the importance of this fundamental shift will doom them in the long run.
"Digital only" doesn't mean game consoles without physical games, game boxes and manuals.
"Digital only" means buying games once and owning them at the user license level with Steam/PSN/Nintendo.
"Digital only" means retaining physical games while still being able to play 100% of your games without the physical game in the console.
"Digital only" benefits users, studios and the platform ecosystem more than conventional physical games.
The short term per-user savings that comes from being able to sell used games isn't worth the massive irreversible loss in profits that it causes game studios and the platform.
"Digital only" makes games profitable enough to allow studios to thrive without resorting to DLC, MTX and other unethical systems that undermine the platforms they rely on.
 

Jubenhimer

Member
The way Nintendo rolled out Switch 2's pricing info was horrible, and they deserve the backlash they're getting because of it.

But people saying either greed or "big bad orange man" are the sole reasons are wrong as well. We know Switch/2 game cards cost more the higher the capacity (likely why TotK costs $70, as it came on a 32GB card), and Switch 2 cards use a different read process which is likely more expensive. Hence, $80 Mario Kart.

Point is, If Nintendo was more upfront about their pricing following the direct and explain why they decided these, yeah people will grumble, but they could at least see where they're coming from. But by waiting for fans to find out on their own, they created a huge PR disaster that they now have to try and clean up. Whether they can or not in time for launch, we'll see.
 
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Shaki12345

Gold Member
Switch 2 will be fine, even at this price point. PS6, when it comes out, has to be a lot cheaper than the Pro is now to even succeed.

When you put it all in perspective, Nintendo is doing the right thing. The other competitors seem to be in much more trouble when it comes to launching a new system.
 
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Hardware price in the UK in my opinion is great. I really thought it was going to be at least £500, so £395 or £429 with Mario Kart was quite the surprise.

Game prices shocked me though. I really can't believe they are asking for £74.99 for Mario Kart World. That's taking the piss.
 

KXVXII9X

Member
Nintendo has failed 3 generations and made other missteps along the way. I don't think their fans are sheep.
Problem is you can't be the one who lags behind in tech and then price your hardware and games like you are miles ahead graphically.
It isn't lagging behind tech. It is priced right below the Steam Deck OLED and much cheaper than the Asus Rog Ally X, Legion Go, and MSI Claw. It seems like it is between PS4 Pro and Xbox Series S's power which is right up there with the competition. The Switch 2 isn't just a 4K console box like the Xbox and PlayStation. For how much power and features are packed into such a thin device is extremely impressive.

I wouldn't even say the PS5/XSX are miles ahead graphically anymore either. Graphics are not the end all be all of value.
 

Memati187

Member
Fuck nintendo, from all the possible companies they ended up being the one to raise the prices for games.

90 for a physical kart game!? Yeah keep that shit and I will keep my kidneys.
 
I wouldn't even say the PS5/XSX are miles ahead graphically anymore either. Graphics are not the end all be all of value.
True. However, it seems to me lots of users on here really only think the next 12 months when discussing the S2. It is highly likely that we'll see Deck 2, PS6 and Microsofts next machine, along other PC handhelds and who knows what else relatively shortly after. And these machines will alter the way people look at S2 substantially. It will fall behind comparatively very fast, just like the first Switch did. Nothing wrong with it of course if you're fine with S2 performance.
 

ADiTAR

ידע זה כוח
True. However, it seems to me lots of users on here really only think the next 12 months when discussing the S2. It is highly likely that we'll see Deck 2, PS6 and Microsofts next machine, along other PC handhelds and who knows what else relatively shortly after. And these machines will alter the way people look at S2 substantially. It will fall behind comparatively very fast, just like the first Switch did. Nothing wrong with it of course if you're fine with S2 performance.
That's what people thought when PS5 came out, PS5 pro, etc. Most people don't notice the diff anymore. I don't think games now look that diff than PS4 tbh, which is why maybe S2 look good.
 

KXVXII9X

Member
True. However, it seems to me lots of users on here really only think the next 12 months when discussing the S2. It is highly likely that we'll see Deck 2, PS6 and Microsofts next machine, along other PC handhelds and who knows what else relatively shortly after. And these machines will alter the way people look at S2 substantially. It will fall behind comparatively very fast, just like the first Switch did. Nothing wrong with it of course if you're fine with S2 performance.
I was also thinking of that too and I agree. I think it will be even more apparent down the line once PS6 comes out. Thankfully, graphics aren't everything to me as I prefer strong art direction which Nintendo nails. It looks like the Switch 2 games will no longer be plagued with poor image quality and aliasing which will give their art styles much more pop. I may start feeling slightly different once I see stuff like GTA 6, Marvel 1943, Death Stranding 2 and the like. Even then I am really excited about the competition in the handheld space!
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
It's funny to see people who think Nintendo started the price increase just now. Haven't you guys been buying Games the last two years?
 

JCK75

Member
I don't... I hope lots of hardware gets sold but nobody pays the crazy prices for software and just continues to play switch titles until they drop them.
 

Generic

Member
You should be more mad about hyper inflation and most importantly of all tariffs from the newest resident across the Potomac River than Nintendo.
Inflation and tariffs are forcing Nintendo to release $80 games but for some mysterious reason all other companies charge $70.
 
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I remember some people here defending a certain platform upping their game prices from 60 to 70 because that's a price they were more than willing to pay as long as its quality.
This. If they are worth $70, then higher quality Nintendo games are certainly worth $80. They hold their value more than others.
 
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