Mass_Pincup
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At first maybe, but after awhile it was just for the thrill of it.
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I Just Finished Breaking Bad Last Night, Can't Fathom The Skyler Hate (Spoilers)
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At first maybe, but after awhile it was just for the thrill of it.
Skellig Gra
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I didn't really like the actress but you can certainly understand her motivations.
Jack Remington
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BFIB
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But he admits to Skylar that in the end, he did it for himself.
EDIT: Beaten like Jessie going to Tuco's
Most people disliked Skyler because they identified with Walter. He's someone who thinks that, if he's given the chance, can be the smartest and most successful guy but gets "screwed over" by his colleagues, who get rich screwing him over. The cancer just gives him the chance to act out his power fantasies recklessly. That's what people want. They want to live their little power fantasies where they are the greatest thing that ever happened to their little world. Of course they hate the person who tries to ground them in reality.
Haha, their relationship was "fine?"
And cheating is a really weird place to draw the line. So you can cook all the meth you want, launder money, kill a dude's GF because she's a distraction, poison a kid because he's a distraction, murder people, kidnap your own kid, etc. But cheating, how dare she!
No, he didn't. That was the show's point. He did it for himself, because he felt cheated out of success in life. Walt was a megalomaniac. He had zero moral scruples.
GitarooMan
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Never had an issue with her, and certainly never "hated" her. She was put in incredibly difficult positions by Walt and he basically puts her in a position to raise the kids and trying to maintain a somewhat stable household for them while he is off on his ego-fueled adventures. I see Walt's story as a tragedy, not a heroic journey, and she has to deal with a lot of shit.
TimeEffect
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Never understood the hate either. How dare she not be okay with her husband being a massive drug dealer and endangering her family!
la flama blanca
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Same people that hated Skyler are the same people that hate the new Ghostbusters movie.
Sheesh, RIP lol
OT: off the top of my head, I hated Skyler because she fucked and gave all of Walt's money to Ted, and started smoking when she was pregnant
Some people who write about television have even started to call this "The Skyler White Effect," although it obviously goes back much further than her. It's meant to describe when a female character is shown to make totally rational judgments about the male lead's behavior and is hated for it.
People also hated on Rita on Dexter, who displayed a really reasonable amount of suspicion for the weird shit her boyfriend was doing and would be called a nag for doing so.
And since Carmella comes up, it should be noted that she was often referred to as a nag that fans wanted to have killed off as well. It's almost like the only standard need be that they're women who spoil the immoral man's fun by behaving reasonably.
He did what he did for his own ego. At the end of the show, he admits this.
Pretty much. I think those are the same people Gilligan tried to appease with the finale. Walt deserved much worse.
I think a lot of it too was the scale of Walt's infractions versus hers. Most of us can't really fathom murdering dozens or running a hundred million dollar drug enterprise. That's far-off TV stuff. But your wife cheating on you with her boss? "Oh shit, that I can really feel, and it grinds my gears!"
schlongdog
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No he didn't.
It was obvious throughout, but he finally admits it in the final episode
PontyfaxJr
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I hated Walt, but I loved watching him do stuff.
I didn't hate Skyler but I did find her generally boring.
I definitely felt bad for her as the show went on, her best moment was when she pulled the knife on Walt.
I didn't hate Skyler but I did find her generally boring.
I definitely felt bad for her as the show went on, her best moment was when she pulled the knife on Walt.
NotoriousPUG
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Pretty ignorant statement.
Extra Sauce
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Skyler really shined in season 5.
It's definitely weird to me how people seemed to continue on loving the power trip Walt has rather than going on an arc and finding other ways that the show is changing the dynamic like I did. I started out rooting for Walt and thinking Skylar was a tiny bit iffy, but by the end of it Walt is so fucking evil it's ridiculous and you should really feel for Skylar. By the end of it I was rooting for Jesse and hoping Walt had quite the downfall.
The Skylar hate is just ridiculous. Almost everything she does is completely understandable. Walt is a piece of shit.
The Skylar hate is just ridiculous. Almost everything she does is completely understandable. Walt is a piece of shit.
Did you skip the final episode?
I mean, even if you did, the fact that you're incredibly wrong is still spelled out throughout the entire series.
More_Badass
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Like, I'm kind of at a loss here. How can anyone watch this show and think this is true? Not only does he literally say otherwise in the finale, it's pretty clear by like Season 2 that he wasn't doing it for his family
neoism
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yup same most hated character on the show for me besides her sister...
la flama blanca
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Sorry,
Same people that irrationally hated Skyler are the same people that hate the new Ghostbusters movie.
Indeed it is ridiculous, it's either willful ignorance or just a lack in understanding.
But I don't think he ever did it for himself. At every point of continuing the meth manufacturing, there is always a threat to his life (he needs to be alive for some time to earn money) or his family member's lives. He always thought of his family rather than the meth. I believe the whole "I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And I was really - I was alive..." line was a lie to convince Skyler.
kavanf1
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Explain then why he turned down the Schwarz's offer to set him up for the rest of his life?
LegendofJoe
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I'd love for a new show to subvert this with a female lead that behaves similar to Walter White with a "nagging" husband. It would be illuminating to see what the reaction would be.
la flama blanca
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Lmfao. I'm in disbelief. You had to have missed a bunch of episodes.
civilstrife
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Her husband was a lying drug lord that KILLED people.
he was a bodyguard and hitman to a crystal meth dealing kingpin. he was pretty fucking evil. if he was less evil than walt, it was by a small amount.
if you say so.
He'd already established connections within the meth industry. He knew people who needed his product. Those people, should he fail to provide the goods, would more than likely kill him. I feel like he had to continue cooking meth to stay alive.
Box of Kittens
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It always seemed pretty clear to me that the viewer is supposed to sympathize with Walter in the beginning when it seems like he's a good man who gets caught up in a situation that spirals out of control because he's trying to help his family but that as the show goes on the viewer learns just how reprehensible Walt really is and how helping his family is secondary to feeding his ego. However, it seems that there are a lot of viewers who continued to sympathize with Walt, whether it was clinging to the initial impression of him or latching on to his few redeeming qualities. I don't think this fully explains negative reactions to Skyler, but it's surely a factor.
Mass_Pincup
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She was like that before Walt started making meth though.
This. It's impossible to overlook. The show tells you right at the end when even Walt admits it to himself.
If this was true, he would have stopped when Skyler asked him to, after she showed him the bunker full of money and asked him what he planned to do with it.
There were multiple points when he could have stopped, but no, it was always about him, his pride, his formula, his product. Being the best meant more than his family. He didn't give a shit about his family until the end.
Can't tell if serious.
la flama blanca
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It's a broad and silly statement that's meant to be a bit provocative, I admit. But some of the silliest arguments made for the hatred of either one of them fall in line with each other.
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all of that stuff hadn't happened yet, Im not calling walk a saint what he did was bad he had reasons for his fmaily later then admitting he did it for himself however I feel he came to that realization near the end and not the beginning. Walt was loyal to his wife and family becuse he knew the struggles they would have when he was gone
And yet you accuse others of victim blaming in the OP.
Skyler was extremely unlikeable to me. And I hated Walter White.
Only characters I liked were Gale, Mike and Saul.
What camp does that put me in?
The first season or two established her character and she was unlikable to say the least. Her infidelity did not bother me nearly so much as the way she treated her husband in the beginning, when he was still Walter White.
She was emasculating and condescending to him, which was a part of establishing the character of Walt as very docile and plain, but it made her look terrible.
As he grew more ballsy, she grew more obnoxious. Eventually of course Walt became a rather dangerous and "bad" person, but Skylar was never really a sympathetic figure to me.
M0nochromatic
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He was wrapping it up, making his final amends. I always found it to be more poignant if he was saying it to give Skylar closure, whether or not it's true is still up for debate. He didn't care about being right, or his ego at that point, he just wanted to do whatever he could before the end.
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