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Try this a shot: http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/livecycle/vcredist_x86/vcredist_x86.exeshagg_187 said:
Then reboot and see if you can reinstall. Maybe try updating your .net framework if that still doesn't work.
Hazaro said:
It's not the memory that will make the difference but the huge difference in memory bandwidth. I'm expecting around 30% better performance, even more so at higher resolutions. The 1GB card wil probably be the new bang for buck champion, it's the 8800gt of this gen.
Edit: What he said.
Edit 2: Oh yeah, they overclock like crazy as well and run much cooler. Everyone should expect to get to at least 800MHz and most will probably approach 900MHz. Combine that with the 1GB card and it will smash anything in its price range.
Never been a believer in memory bandwidth (Got my 8800GTS 320MB :lol)
192/256:
86.4GB/s -> Healthy memory overclock brings that to 105
115.2GB/s -> ~140? (Speculating)
Cores look solid running at 73C stock load, 81C @ 900Mhz
Clock like mad.
192/256:
86.4GB/s -> Healthy memory overclock brings that to 105
115.2GB/s -> ~140? (Speculating)
Cores look solid running at 73C stock load, 81C @ 900Mhz
Clock like mad.
Hazaro said:
Can't wait for some professional benches of the 1GB version with OC. ATI are finally going to have to lower the price of the 5850 in response. Another thing is that performance should increase a lot in time with more mature drivers as the GTX460 uses the new GF104 core unlike the GF100 core used by the other 400 series cards so will need new drivers to take advantage of it.
brain_stew
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I can't rightfully recommend any one a card with less than 1GB of VRAM these days. So yes, that's the card to watch, wonder where pricing comes in at.
FleckSplat
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Okay guys. I revised my build to include the GTX 460 1GB. What wattage of power supply should I get? I live in a humid, hot climate year round.
Diablohead
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Outside of the weird ass way GTA4 uses it I have yet to have a problem with the 756 or whatever my 260 has, maybe in a year or so it will be in the waybrain_stew said:
brain_stew
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FleckSplat said:Okay guys. I revised my build to include the GTX 460 1GB. What wattage of power supply should I get? I live in a humid, hot climate year round.
The included PSU will be fine.
FleckSplat
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Awesome! Money saved.
brain_stew
Member
Diablohead said:Outside of the weird ass way GTA4 uses it I have yet to have a problem with the 756 or whatever my 260 has, maybe in a year or so it will be in the way
The GTX 260 has 896MB, there's a big difference between than and 768MB. ~900MB would be fine as well, but since there's no modern cards offering that sort of configuration any more I just set my threshold at 1GB, seems fair
brain_stew
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Hazaro said:
Palit are fine, same company as Gainward and my last two cards came from them, I can have no complaints. Get the cheaper one though, yeah as it is literally the same product.
A 2 year warranty is more than enough for a GPU in my book, it'll probably be nearly worthless after that period anyway.
Edit: Why are you paying extra for a board with integrated graphics? I'd get an 870 board personally, the integrated graphics are the only worthwile thing they lack and since you won't be using them its no big issue.
Edit: Something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130275&cm_re=amd_870-_-13-130-275-_-Product
FleckSplat
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Okay, I added RAM and a monitor that I needed. I also picked the cheaper graphics card.
Gainward has the best GPU graphics on their cards. So good.brain_stew said:
And not all warranties are equal. I've dealt with both eVGA and XFX which is why I say to go with them instead of other companies because I know both of them put customer service as a priority. Also why I recommend G.Skill (Awesome RMA experience, and Corsair).
They should be the same price as well. XFX has double lifetime and that can help resale value.
Grab this RAM instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303
Tightly timed 1600 for $10 less (use coupon at top)
Easily.Grayman said:
Yeah. I love OCZ as a company and their innovation, but I've always shied away from their RAM :lol (Separate from the great Ballistix fiasco of course)brain_stew said:
brain_stew
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I wouldn't recommend Crucial Ballistix RAM personally, I know its probably fine these days but there were so many horror stories back in the day. G. Skill are probably your best bet these days.
Someone in here mentioned the Crucial C300 64GB SSD as another one to watch out for other than than Intel X25M 80GB.
What would the pros/cons be of choosing one over the other?
Also, when buying an SSD for a desktop PC, is there anything else I need or is it as simple as installing a regular HDD?
What would the pros/cons be of choosing one over the other?
Also, when buying an SSD for a desktop PC, is there anything else I need or is it as simple as installing a regular HDD?
I'll know when reviews of the 64GB come out, but it should be similar to the larger capacity versions.Salaadin said:
iirc the C300 has ridiculous read speeds, but more importantly slots in right now at the $150 point for 64GB making it better GB value than the 40GB V, and a bit cheaper than the Intel 80GB.
FleckSplat
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Thanks everyone. I think I'm ready to buy now. Hazaro, I took your RAM recommendation.
Minsc
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Did anyone else catch the story about the i7 980X (6/12 core CPU) overclocked to over 7GHz a few days ago? God damn. That thing would be a monster. Guess it's super-clocked because it's also not using all the cores, but it still seems to have broken a ton of records.
Yup! http://hwbot.org/Minsc said:
I think a 1090T broke 7Ghz as well, but its not in the database yet.
Hazaro said:
Oh so this is a relatively new drive? I see that there are very little reviews and no comparisons. I did not know that.
Do you think 64GB will be sufficient for an OS and MMO + and expansions an MMO might have? For this reason, Im still leaning toward to Intel.
I really wish the price on that X25M 80GB would come down some. Itd be so much easier for me to decide then
Mr_Brit said:
Hmm I don't lean particularly towards nvidia or ati though my last 2 cards have been a desktop 4850 and laptop 5650 (both GAF recommendations for my budget at the time). Right now I can afford a 5850 at its current prices so would the gtx460 still represent a good value @ $200-230 compared to a $300 5850?
I'm tempted to wait and see while also worried about prices going up if I don't get my order in soon enough and supplies turn out to be low.
Cheapest 768 MB GTX460 is ~ $207 after shipping & taxes
Cheapest 1GB 460 is ~ $227
Cheapest 5850 is ~$300
Is the 5850 $70 better than the 460? We don't have benches yet right? And I don't read Chinese so that other preview is alien to me
Cheapest 768 MB GTX460 is ~ $207 after shipping & taxes
Cheapest 1GB 460 is ~ $227
Cheapest 5850 is ~$300
Is the 5850 $70 better than the 460? We don't have benches yet right? And I don't read Chinese so that other preview is alien to me
Buggy Loop
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I have not been following the PC hardware tech for a while except for GPU benchmarks here and there. I see a lot of phenom X6 builds here, is it the new best bang for the buck CPU? I checked anandtech benchmarks and in gaming its performing lower than an i5 generally. Gaming has not gone over 4 cores yet though so is it for futureproof? Is the AM3 platform more futureproof than intel's 1366 & 1156?
I dont think i'll buy a PC this year, most likely wait for 2011 and perhaps bulldozer or intels' next step. Gotta admit though, i've been itching to build one for this fall and i would love that bulldozer be compatible with AM3.
I dont think i'll buy a PC this year, most likely wait for 2011 and perhaps bulldozer or intels' next step. Gotta admit though, i've been itching to build one for this fall and i would love that bulldozer be compatible with AM3.
Right now I'm just hoping this drops the price of the 5850 and maybe even the 5870. I've been really happy with ATI cards lately and I'd kind of like to be in the slightly higher performance area than the GTX460. I was really hoping to get a 5870 and if the prices of cards in this range: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161329
could get close to $300 I'd be all over it.
could get close to $300 I'd be all over it.
What do I need to get a 2.5in SDD into a desktop with only 3.5in bays in it? I see adapters online but am unsure if they will work.
WOuld this be enough?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002OJO4SY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Any other parts I need?
WOuld this be enough?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002OJO4SY/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Any other parts I need?
kagete said:
Yeah, well I am hoping my 500w EarthWatts will power a 5870 since I'm only going to ever plan to run 1 GPU, 1 HDD and the i5-750. I'm struggling with picking up this 5870 for $370 though, I really don't NEED a new GPU until FFXIV comes out, but I'd like to have the new card be the first and only card going in my new build instead of putting my 4850 in there as a placeholder. If I could find any kind of coupon code for about $20 off that 5870 I'd buy it today.
I need to freeze myself cartman style until september.
FleckSplat
Member
Ordered! Thanks everyone for your help sorting this out. This will be my first custom built PC.
I'm actually putting together a solid little dual core build for my mom that I plan on using a 212+ in and overclocking. I have an Arctic Freezer Pro 7 and OCZ Vendetta lying around that would be up to the job, but I'm bored, the 212 is just $20 and I want to see how cold and quiet I can get everything to run.MidgarBlowedUp said:
Yeah, you'll need to start over.leroidys said:
Why did you switch out the WD Black SATA III drive that you had before?FleckSplat said:
FleckSplat
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Because it's 1.5 TB instead of 1TB. PCP recommended this one.
There's also an interesting 10,000 RPM trick you can do with it.
There's also an interesting 10,000 RPM trick you can do with it.
I think I'm going to jump on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161329
Anyone see any reason not to, or do you think it will have problems working with an EarthWatts 500w only running 1 gpu, 1 hdd and an i5-750?
Anyone see any reason not to, or do you think it will have problems working with an EarthWatts 500w only running 1 gpu, 1 hdd and an i5-750?
Amneisac said:
You know the drill about PSUs (after everyone argued about it the last page). If you have a decent branded one (especially the 80 plus bronze, gold stuff) then it shouldn't be a problem. Earthwatts is Antec right?
Personally, i'm also torn about ordering that 5870...
kagete said:
Well, I have a Bing cashback account with $4 in it, and they're doing away with the program, so if I bought this I'd get another $11 back, and it comes with MW2, which I don't have for PC...
No way the price of the 5870 will drop more than $25-50 before September, right? I mean even with this whole GTX 460 mess.