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Salaadin said:
Anyone know of a brick and mortar stores that stocks SSDs and might have the Intels? I cant find anything online about it except best buy but my closest one has none in stock.
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I went to Fry's yesterday and they had the 80 GB Intel one for $199.99. I was actually surprised since it's cheaper than both Newegg and Amazon. I should have picked it up!
 
Fry's really needs to open up some new locations. Preferably within 10-15 minutes of my house...


Salaadin said:
Anyone know of a brick and mortar stores that stocks SSDs and might have the Intels? I cant find anything online about it except best buy but my closest one has none in stock.
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Microcenter has the 80 and 160.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0327003
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0327004

No deals, though.
 
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I think I'm going to jump on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161329

Anyone see any reason not to, or do you think it will have problems working with an EarthWatts 500w only running 1 gpu, 1 hdd and an i5-750?

I just don't want to buy it and then someone says, "Oh, well if you're going to buy that card you should pay $10 more and get the one twice as good" yadda yadda.
 
Amneisac said:
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I think I'm going to jump on this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161329

Anyone see any reason not to, or do you think it will have problems working with an EarthWatts 500w only running 1 gpu, 1 hdd and an i5-750?

I just don't want to buy it and then someone says, "Oh, well if you're going to buy that card you should pay $10 more and get the one twice as good" yadda yadda.
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Your PSU will run any GPU except the GTX480.
 
Was wondering if any of you knew what was going on with EFI nowadays? It was the up and coming awesome replacement for BIOS for a long time but I haven't really seen it anywhere? Is there a moniker for a brand of motherboards with this feature or is pretty much laying dead in a ditch somewhere?

Amneisac said:
and it's a good card? I mean it's worth $370 if I have that much to spend? I'd hate to overpay for performance that won't really be noticeable over a 5850 or something. This is going to be mostly for FFXIV (but I also have crysis max. edition and stuff that I haven't played yet because there's no point on my current comp.)

It's basically a 12% increase for $100? I don't really know how to quantify a ~12% increase though.
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Wait for the GTX 460 to be released soon and see how that adjusts prices. Hopefully the 460 i strong enough to force ATI to react by dropping prices.
 
Mr_Brit said:
Your PSU will run any GPU except the GTX480.
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and it's a good card? I mean it's worth $370 if I have that much to spend? I'd hate to overpay for performance that won't really be noticeable over a 5850 or something. This is going to be mostly for FFXIV (but I also have crysis max. edition and stuff that I haven't played yet because there's no point on my current comp.)

It's basically a 12% increase for $100? I don't really know how to quantify a ~12% increase though.
 
Amneisac said:
and it's a good card? I mean it's worth $370 if I have that much to spend? I'd hate to overpay for performance that won't really be noticeable over a 5850 or something. This is going to be mostly for FFXIV (but I also have crysis max. edition and stuff that I haven't played yet because there's no point on my current comp.)
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Is it a 5870? (Link doesn't work)

What are you coming from?

Are you willing to OC your GPU, its literally as simple as moving a couple of sliders and completely reversable? If you are the 5850 or the 1GB GTX 460 may be a better option. Once those two GPUs are overclocked you won't actually lose much performance compared to a 5870, but you'll certainly save a nice stack of cash.

Your PSU is fine for any of them and honestly, all of them should run FF14 like butter, the game's capped at 30fps afterall.

The GTX 460 looks like it might be coming in right at the price:performance sweet spot, more than enough power for high end gaming and yet no need to pay an extra premium for it. It very well may be my defacto high end GPU recommendation as the 5850 was once.
 
kagete said:
Ooh looks interesting! And the 460 is now listed in newegg and amazon to boot!

I hope the prices go down as I need the best $300 single graphics card for my mATX build. Is 72 degrees C at load with stock frequencies good or bad?
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In Furmark? Fantastic.
 
brain_stew said:
Is it a 5870? (Link doesn't work)

What are you coming from?

Are you willing to OC your GPU, its literally as simple as moving a couple of sliders and completely reversable? If you are the 5850 or the 1GB GTX 460 may be a better option. Once those two GPUs are overclocked you won't actually lose much performance compared to a 5870, but you'll certainly save a nice stack of cash.

Your PSU is fine for any of them and honestly, all of them should run FF14 like butter, the game's capped at 30fps afterall.

The GTX 460 looks like it might be coming in right at the price:performance sweet spot, more than enough power for high end gaming and yet no need to pay an extra premium for it. It very well may be my defacto high end GPU recommendation as the 5850 was once.
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Sorry, it's a 5870 for $370, it's the HIS 1GB on sale on NewEgg right now. its' going in a brand new i5-750 build I am assembling this week. I have a 4850 in my current computer, but I want to get something new for FFXIV. Should I just ride out my 4850 for a few months or is this a pretty solid deal?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161329

I have my 4850 oc'd now. I certainly want to make a sensible purchase, but at the same time I'd hate to go with a 5850 or gtx 460 and not get the same performance in FFXIV that I could have gotten for another $100.

Of course, I didn't realize FFXIV was capped at 30fps (why the fuck?) so I guess a 5850 OC'd with my new build would probably suffice.
 
Amneisac said:
From the leaked benchmarks I see the 460 is still a little below the 5850, is there something more to it?
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It overclocks like crazy, expect around 950MHz on the 1GB model. That combined with a much lower price and several games being stronger on nvidia products and you have the new gamer's champion.
 
Mr_Brit said:
It overclocks like crazy, expect around 950MHz on the 1GB model. That combined with a much lower price and several games being stronger on nvidia products and you have the new gamer's champion.
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It still baffles me how this is the case ever since the 4800 series from AMD launched.

Nvidia still sponsors pretty much every PC dev apart from Valve don't they?
 
I want to blind-buy that Palit 1GB 460 at $220 so bad... If the reviews are glowing i'm worried it'll just shoot up in price or go out of stock in a couple of days...
 
Teetris said:
It still baffles me how this is the case ever since the 4800 series from AMD launched.

Nvidia still sponsors pretty much every PC dev apart from Valve don't they?
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I know it's not exactly the greatest situation for ATI users but ultimately it's a good thing for the PC gaming industry as it'll force ATI to finally step up to the table and start supporting the industry that makes them who they are. Up to this point ATI's support of PC gaming has been nonexistent compared to nvidia who offer schemes to encourage game devs to push PC gaming forward and sometimes even bank rolls smaller devs' projects such as Metro 2033 which would have been a lot worse and less technically impressive without nvidia's money to back it. The unfortunate side effect is that ATI owners have to lose out as a result.

I want to blind-buy that Palit 1GB 460 at $220 so bad... If the reviews are glowing i'm worried it'll just shoot up in price or go out of stock in a couple of days...
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Just do it, preliminary reviews on the 768MB model are great. If on the small chance the final card isn't as impressive you could always return it. Don't you have a 7 day return period in the US or something similar?
 
Okay, so I've decided my laptop won't run anything I want to play (FFXIV) and am looking to build something for around $600. This is what I have so far, but I just want to check that everything will work together and get some opinions. I've really got no idea what I'm doing. :D

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If you're buying it for FF14 you're going to want a better GPU than that. Even if you're not willing to spend more, a 4850 will net you the same performance for $50 less.

Don't get that POS PSU either.
 
kagete said:
I want to blind-buy that Palit 1GB 460 at $220 so bad... If the reviews are glowing i'm worried it'll just shoot up in price or go out of stock in a couple of days...
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I did. I'll tell you how it goes next week!
 
AtomskEater said:
Okay, so I've decided my laptop won't run anything I want to play (FFXIV) and am looking to build something for around $600. This is what I have so far, but I just want to check that everything will work together and get some opinions. I've really got no idea what I'm doing. :D
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Maybe this 5770 for the same price? It's actually $20 cheaper if you bother with the rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131328&cm_re=5770-_-14-131-328-_-Product

FleckSplat said:
I did. I'll tell you how it goes next week!
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I am 2 clicks away from blind buying it myself... I'll probably wait till tomorrow afternoon at the latest to decide..
 
Could someone recommend me a decent case please? I have a 4850 and E8400 and only really want to upgrade the GPU but no way is a 5850 or better fitting in my current case.
 
Is there a reason to pay for the Palit over the Gigabyte? I'm going to get one of them.

Nevermind, higher clock speed.

Aaaand purchased the Palit GTX 460. I hope it's worth $250!
 
What a fucking crazy long, windy road it's been. Here's my "hope to fuck I can play FFXIV with good settings" build (all prices are totals with taxes and shipping included):
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CASE: Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply $124.99

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Processor 2.66 GHz 8 MB LGA1156 CPU I5-750BOX $194.99

COOLER: Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 Hyper 212 Plus 775/1156/1366/AMD/AM2/AM3 Universal Direct Contact Heat-Pipe 120mm Fan CPU Cooler $29.99

MOBO: Gigabyte Intel Core i7/i5 LGA1156 4DDR3-2200 CrossFireX/GBE/Raid/SATA3/USB3.0/7.1-CH ATX Motherboard GA-P55A-UD3 Intel Core i7/i5 LGA1156 4DDR3-2200 CrossFireX/GBE/Raid/SATA3/USB3.0/7.1-CH ATX Motherboard GA-P55A-UD3 $139.99

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL $93.99

GPU: Palit NE5X460SF1102 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Sonic 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $226.97

HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 16MB Hard Drive $40.45

OPTICAL: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $18.99

OS: Win 7 64 bit $Free
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TOTAL: $870.36
 
Sounds great but may I ask why is the mobo so expensive? my budget pc has a mini board for about £25 and it works a treat, half the features on motherboards I never touch or use or are small pointless extras.

(note: my pc was made on a very tight budget :P and I got lucky with my components working well with each other)

WEGGLES said:
How? Legit? or piracy?
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I never paid for my win7 64bit too because I was allowed an official key from my university :D
 
Diablohead said:
Sounds great but may I ask why is the mobo so expensive? my budget pc has a mini board for about £25 and it works a treat, half the features on motherboards I never touch or use or are small pointless extras.

(note: my pc was made on a very tight budget :P and I got lucky with my components working well with each other)
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His mobo is like an aston yours is like a reliant robin, both do the same job but his does it a lot better.
 
Mr_Brit said:
His mobo is like an aston yours is like a reliant robin, both do the same job but his does it a lot better.
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What sort of improvements would an uber motherboard give? outside of a better onboard graphics chip and more pci-e slots? i'm interested.

I bought mine cheap as I just needed something which was not sub £20 and that could hold about 4GB ram (2x2GB) and my gtx260, so it worked out great for me.
 
Ive had my comp for about 1 1/2 years now and my back fan started making grinding noises so i had to move my front fan to the back. Do fans usually crap out in about that time or did i just have a really shitty fan? (Coolermaster)
 
Okay, my ma needs an HTPC for her tv. Needs to do 1080p/audio over HDMI and I need to be able to wireless control it (mouse? Wii pointer with Bluetooth?). I'm looking at a ~$500 budget but can go over. Is the i5 a possibility? The i7 would probably be too pricey for this kind of small build. Any suggestions?
 
WEGGLES said:
And how does one get a key from their college/university?
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At our school the IT department has an agreement with Microsoft where we can sell it to our students for a significant discount. We don't provide free keys to anyone, but faculty / staff can buy work at home licenses very cheap. Since I do so much work from home though they provide me with licenses.
 
Amneisac said:
At our school the IT department has an agreement with Microsoft where we can sell it to our students for a significant discount. We don't provide free keys to anyone, but faculty / staff can buy work at home licenses very cheap. Since I do so much work from home though they provide me with licenses.
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Is there any way to tell if it's offered at my school, other than going there? I'm out of school right now.
 
Ok, Im about ready to hit the Buy button on amazon for an Intel X25M. I just have a few questions about what else I need in terms of getting my PC ready for it.

I backed up all of my pictures, movies, music, and game saves to an external drive. The only game saves I did not bring were those games that have steam cloud support since Ill get those back once I re-download steam. I also downloaded a bunch of installers for my commonly used programs to save me some trouble later. Is there anything I might be forgetting here?

As far as steam goes, I just need to copy the entire steamapps folder to an external drive? Do I have to do this with the backup option in steam or will a simple copy/paste do the trick?

Once the SSD is here, can I simply install Windows 7 to it using the same product key I used when I first installed back in October? I dont need to uninstall the Windows 7 that I currently have installed first or anything of that sort?

Once Windows 7 is installed, I can format my 640GB WD. Any recommendations as far as that goes?

When it comes to reinstalling Steam, Ive been told that putting games on an SSD (aside from MMOs) will give me little to no improvements. How do I go about installing Steam on a different drive? My OS will be on the SSD so thats where Program Files will be and thats where steam will want to go. Are these the instructions I need to follow to get what I want? https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=231

Lastly, Im not going to install a ton of programs to the SSD but was curious as to what you guys put on yours? Open Office? Photoshop? Any suggestions here will help.

Thanks.
 
brain_stew said:
If you're buying it for FF14 you're going to want a better GPU than that. Even if you're not willing to spend more, a 4850 will net you the same performance for $50 less.

Don't get that POS PSU either.
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kagete said:
Maybe this 5770 for the same price? It's actually $20 cheaper if you bother with the rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131328&cm_re=5770-_-14-131-328-_-Product
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll drop that PSU and do a little thinking/research on the graphics card.

Edit: Although I should probably ask what I need to look for in a PSU.
 
Alright PC Master Race..the day/month is nearly upon me. The time to sit atop the gaming hierarchy is so close I can taste it. Here is what my near final build aka 'The Beast' looks like:


CASE: Antech 1200 Full Tower
MOBO: ASUS P6X58-D
CPU : Core i7 980x
GPU : EVGA GTX 480
RAM: Corsair XMS3 6GB
PSU: Corsair 750HX 750W
HDD: Intel X-25 80GB SSD
HDD: Samsung F3 1TB
DRIVE: Sony DVD Drive

Other: Arctic Thermal Compound

Price: $2,496 (under my budget of 2.5K by 4 bones!)

Didn't care to put a Blu-ray drive in this since I have a PS3 (and it'll be getting the 3d update in September).

I know the 980x comes in at 3.3 ghz..but I wanted to try and push it to as close to 4 ghz as possible. I know it comes with a heatsink, but I'm not sure if that'll be good enough to do what I'm asking. If not, any suggestions on some aftermarket coolers for the CPU (do not want to go the liquid route)?

Also will that PSU be enough for this system? Any additional suggestions (different mobo, ram etc ) would be appreciated.
 
Baloonatic said:
Could someone recommend me a decent case please? I have a 4850 and E8400 and only really want to upgrade the GPU but no way is a 5850 or better fitting in my current case.
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How much are you looking to spend? Do you have any preferences as far as features, aesthetics, and so on?


Metalic Sand said:
Ive had my comp for about 1 1/2 years now and my back fan started making grinding noises so i had to move my front fan to the back. Do fans usually crap out in about that time or did i just have a really shitty fan? (Coolermaster)
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Sleeve fans can have a short life and assorted issues, but it's still a luck of the draw sometimes. I purchased some quiet, "long-life" sleeve fans a few months ago for half off. Out of the bunch, one is already making slightly more noise than it had initially.
 
Smokey said:
CPU : Core i7 980x
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Have you ordered all of your parts already?
Fry's has the i7 980X on sale for ~$776, in store only. I would've posted that earlier, but considering how 99% of the users in this thread aren't in the market for one...
 
Quick question to all you PC gaming experts: I will like to replace my HD3870 X2 card for some ATI card that does not waste that much electric power. What card could you recommend that could be in its same range of power, not that expensive, and not that power hungry?
 
daCuk said:
Quick question to all you PC gaming experts: I will like to replace my HD3870 X2 card for some ATI card that does not waste that much electric power. What card could you recommend that could be in its same range of power, not that expensive, and not that power hungry?
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Most likely you'd be looking at a 4770.
 
·feist· said:
How much are you looking to spend? Do you have any preferences as far as features, aesthetics, and so on?
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Don't care about looks, just need it to be decently sized and cool.. I'm in the UK and only really looking to spend £75-£100 I guess?
 
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