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[Complex Shadow]

it depends on the OS you're using. Windows provides backwards compatibility one step back, so 64-bit Windows is compatible with 32-bit programs.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. This has made my day.

 

[poppabk]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. This has made my day.

What exactly are you trying to do?
1) Take HDD with software installed on it from old computer and put in new computer and have software work
2) Take HDD from old computer, put in new computer, format HDD, and then use HDD
3) Take HDD from old computer, put in new computer, format HDD, and then install old software on new computer

Does your new computer have another HDD with windows installed on it?

 

[Shambles]

Oh god i am screwed??

The windows licence is tied to the motherboard so you won't be able to boot off it. It will be readable though as a secondary drive.

 

[Fixed1979]

Received my 3D vision glasses today so I'm looking forward to trying them out tonight.

Maybe it's because my older HP w2408 was not very good but using the Acer GD235HZ is so much easier on the eyes.

 

[·feist·]

Well, I see compatibility has already been answered, but shadowcomplex still isn't being very clear about what he's trying to do.

Sounds like it's this:

What exactly are you trying to do?
1) Take HDD with software installed on it from old computer and put in new computer and have software work

 

[Yasae]

Just went from a relic (X1900 XT 512MB, circa 2006) to a Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum 1GB.

Sweet jesus.

My CPU (E6550 @2.33GHz) is going to bottleneck things, but it's still enough horsepower to bulldoze most games. I wanted to get a GPU that was affordable with good performance without having to switch out my motherboard - and by default, my memory, vid card, and CPU... Maybe even my power source were I going to a 470. That would have trashed my budget. It will more than likely be my next upgrade.

I also got Windows 7. Much like wmat, I......................


This is hard to say.



I..... Have still been using XP. It's time to upgrade - and get DX 11 features with this spiffy new card.

 

[TheExodu5]

Overclock that CPU.

 

[pancakesandsex]

Did some tweaking and here is what I came up with.

Slightly smaller HDD (500gb version of the F3 model that was recommended)
Bunch of combo deals
Slightly better video card (1gb GTX 460 versus the 768mb one)
Modular power supply
Different ram manufacturer
Optical drive

Besides an SSD which could be added later, are there any other suggestions anyone could make? I'm thinking of biting the bullet on this tonight.

 

[Complex Shadow]

Well, I see compatibility has already been answered, but shadowcomplex still isn't being very clear about what he's trying to do.

Sounds like it's this:

More or less. I was just wondering if I COULD run 32 bit software on a 64 bit comp. Also I am not worried about the cd key. I got a couple free coppies from my college. I am sorry if I caused troble to anyone. I have had no expreince with 64 bit I an just worried is all. And thank you guys for responding to my posts. I really do apreciate the support, thanks gaf.

 

[ZZMitch]

Well I just finished installing my GTX 460, then downloaded the latest drivers and went right into some games.

It is working great! I am so happy.

Audiosurf- around 100 fps
Mincraft - 80-100 fps
Company of Heroes Performance Test- average 57.5 fps

Thanks for all the help guys! Now to install the rest of my games and wait for Black Ops and Red Orchestra 2

 

[theshizzle]

I was looking at this combo on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.514077
The only thing i see missing is a discrete video card, but it does have an onboard one that isn't too bad.
What do you guys think? expensive? performance? value?

 

[Cipherr]

I am starting my build now, lets hope there are no complications :lol

 

[Complex Shadow]

I am starting my build now, lets hope there are no complications :lol

Good luck.

 

[zedge]

Anyone have a Gigabyte Radeon 6850? Picked one up on the weekend, pleased so far, however its really loud..

 

[Hazaro]

Did some tweaking and here is what I came up with.

Slightly smaller HDD (500gb version of the F3 model that was recommended)
Bunch of combo deals
Slightly better video card (1gb GTX 460 versus the 768mb one)
Modular power supply
Different ram manufacturer
Optical drive

Besides an SSD which could be added later, are there any other suggestions anyone could make? I'm thinking of biting the bullet on this tonight.

Main thing: Do you need the capabilities of an i7 vs an i5 rig?
i5 saves you about $240 and gives 90% of the performance. i5-760 + Gigabyte UD3 (or Asus P7P55) + 2x2GB of G.Skill or Corsair memory. About the only upshot for x58 is the support of the $800 6 cores and actual 16x/16x PCI-E lanes.

Getting a 500GB vs a 1TB seems just like a bad idea. Since you are dropping over $1,000 spending $15 more to double capacity just seems like it can save a lot of hassle down the line. If you're sure you don't need it, that's fine.
Unless you want HAWX, the 6850 is the better card at that price. The 460 is still a great buy and nVidia has its advantages.

I was looking at this combo on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.514077
The only thing i see missing is a discrete video card, but it does have an onboard one that isn't too bad.
What do you guys think? expensive? performance? value?

It's not bad, but it's not something that you couldn't combo on your own either.
Refer to the main post on what you are looking for in a PC.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24013632&postcount=16571

Anyone have a Gigabyte Radeon 6850? Picked one up on the weekend, pleased so far, however its really loud..

Download MSI Afterburner and setup a fan profile

 

[brain_stew]

Did some tweaking and here is what I came up with.

Slightly smaller HDD (500gb version of the F3 model that was recommended)
Bunch of combo deals
Slightly better video card (1gb GTX 460 versus the 768mb one)
Modular power supply
Different ram manufacturer
Optical drive

Besides an SSD which could be added later, are there any other suggestions anyone could make? I'm thinking of biting the bullet on this tonight.

What do you need the 700w PSU and extra SATA cables for?

The 1TB F3 is only $10 more and its faster. Ditch the 500GB drive.

 

[TheExodu5]

Anyone have a Gigabyte Radeon 6850? Picked one up on the weekend, pleased so far, however its really loud..

Slow down the fan with the Catalyst drivers. I set the fans to 35%, and the card doesn't go above 68C under full load. Completely inaudible. Very good cooler. The drivers default to around 70%, which is damned loud.

 

[Cipherr]

Annnnnnd Win7 is up and running. Posted on first boot, no issues except I need to install drivers but other than that install went perfect to the ssd, all drives detected, AHCI was set before install yadda yadda. Good times.


(I switched the side my Hyper 212 fan was on 3 times before I got it right. Turns out it was on right to begin with) :lol :lol :lol


Edit: And now posting from the new rig. Pretty neat, took a bit longer than I thought to get all of this done but its sweet.

 

[Ryoma-Echizen]

pancakesandsex
I would go for the X6 and a crossfire of two 6850 (one of them is better than a 460) and two of them for the same price od your former setup, even the X6 will run smoother if you do some heavy tasks while gaming.




New prices for the thubies and all other cpu's (X6 1100T 3.3Ghz close to release I think).

X6 1090T 3.2Ghz @229

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/11/03/amd-quietly-drops-prices-phenomx6s/?c=4856

 

[ChoklitReign]

How much can I expect to overclock an Athlon X4 640 with this cooler?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...186134&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-35-186-134-_-Product

 

[n0n44m]

How much can I expect to overclock an Athlon X4 640 with this cooler?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...186134&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-35-186-134-_-Product

the Athlon II X4 all seem to go up to around 3.5ish on aircooling, but you'll run into a wall at 3.6 for sure (higher only possible with watercooling and extreme voltages)

I'm running mine (635) at 3.51 (13.5*260) with ~1.4 volt, Scythe Mugen 2 rev B cooler

the current Phenom BE's clock quite a bit higher (3.8 should be very doable, the latest 970 BE can easily do 4 afaik) , 6 cores clock better as well

still 3.5 ghz quadcore for 100 euros/dollar isn't too shabby ofcourse

unless you already have that cooler I would suggest the Scythe Mugen 2 or the cheaper Coolermaster 212 ; the Arctic were great on Socket 939 but nowadays you can get better for around the same price imho

 

[ZZMitch]

So I have been testing out my new GTX 460 on my gaming PC (i5 760, 4gig Ram etc).

I just have a quick question, I was testing out the card on the Company of Heroes benchmark and the framerate seemed capped at 60fps. I was comparing this to others who had similar set ups and some were getting fps rates of over 100. I was just wondering if others had done something like manually disabling vsync. I am completely fine with running it at 60 fps, but I just want to make sure my card is working fine and the game actually has a 60fps cap.

 

[MomoPufflet]

I installed a couple Noctua NF-P12 120mm fans onto my Corsair H70 water cooler last night because the stock ones were way too loud for me. So far they are great-- basically silent even at full RPM (I can hear them very faintly at full power but the HDD is louder still).

 

[Hazaro]

Annnnnnd Win7 is up and running.

(I switched the side my Hyper 212 fan was on 3 times before I got it right. Turns out it was on right to begin with) :lol :lol :lol

Edit: And now posting from the new rig. Pretty neat, took a bit longer than I thought to get all of this done but its sweet.

Check your temps for idle and load to make sure your thermal paste is still fine.

How much can I expect to overclock an Athlon X4 640 with this cooler?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...186134&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-35-186-134-_-Product

Probably 3.4-3.6
They love voltage and that's about as high as you can expect.

So I have been testing out my new GTX 460 on my gaming PC (i5 760, 4gig Ram etc).

I just have a quick question, I was testing out the card on the Company of Heroes benchmark and the framerate seemed capped at 60fps. I was comparing this to others who had similar set ups and some were getting fps rates of over 100. I was just wondering if others had done something like manually disabling vsync. I am completely fine with running it at 60 fps, but I just want to make sure my card is working fine and the game actually has a 60fps cap.

Card is fine, some games default vsync on, a few have 60FPS caps.

 

[matmanx1]

Here's my current rig (the important parts, anyway):

Intel E6600 cpu
Intel DG965 mobo
4GB RAM (1066 I think?)
EVGA GTX 260 216 core
Antec TruPower 2.0 550w
Windows 7 64bit

It's been a great system in terms of reliability but I'd like to upgrade soon'ish to be current but also to be ready for Crysis 2 and The Witcher 2 and anything else I'd like to throw at it. I know I need a CPU, Mobo and RAM at the very least but should I also go ahead and upgrade the video card or will the 260 be sufficient into next year? (I game on an HDTV at 1280x720p so I'm not running high resolutions)

I'd like to stay under $600 for this round of upgrades which means if I need to upgrade the video card then the CPU, Mobo and RAM combo will need to be cheaper. Ideally I spend the $600 on just those three components and then upgrade the video card in February or March.

I know Sandy Bridge CPU's are right around the corner and I'm not terribly opposed to waiting until January to upgrade but do I really need that much CPU for what is primarily a gaming rig? Anyway, thanks for the advice!

 

[sestrugen]

I've been reading too much reviews/benchmarks/opinions about processors and video cards and I can't seem to decide on which one would be better for my world of warcraft computer. Theres the i5 platform vs amd x4 (phenom II) and gtx460 vs ati 6850, there's too much pro's and con's for all of them I just cannot wrap my head around it. Ideally I would like capabilities to play some other titles I have missed but my main focus is world of warcraft, can anyone give me some real world benchmarks when running those parts?

 

[D3RANG3D]

What would be the best GPU to go upgrade my rig with without bottlenecking it?

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz

Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H Motherboard

Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel SDRAM 1066mhz

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4670 1GB DDR3 128bit Current GPU which is poop

500w Power Supply

Thanks in advance!

 

[Hazaro]

I've been reading too much reviews/benchmarks/opinions about processors and video cards and I can't seem to decide on which one would be better for my world of warcraft computer. Theres the i5 platform vs amd x4 (phenom II) and gtx460 vs ati 6850, there's too much pro's and con's for all of them I just cannot wrap my head around it. Ideally I would like capabilities to play some other titles I have missed but my main focus is world of warcraft, can anyone give me some real world benchmarks when running those parts?

i5 + GTX 460 for WoW hands down.

 

[·feist·]

So, it looks like the GTX 580 may actually have more than just a paper launch this year.
I wonder how much an early adopter tax factors into its supposed ~$599 price (if at all), because that sounds like 6990 territory.

 

[ZZMitch]

Card is fine, some games default vsync on, a few have 60FPS caps.

yeah vsync was the culprit, I just finished downloading CSS and tried the benchmark there and with vsync I get 60 fps and without it I get 230 fps. I dont need all that fps so I will be sticking with vsync on.

I am just curious though, what does vsync do exactly? I mean does it have any effect on visuals and what not?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

so is nhancer still borked for 200xx drivers or is it working fine? that and PhysX are my two main factors in switching from my current setup to either a GTX 470 SLI or 6870 crossfire setup.

 

[MrBelmontvedere]

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20724-nvidias-dual-5x0-card-comes-in-2010

Nvidia's dual 5x0 card comes in 2010

We got a fresh update on what happens after GTX 580 eventually launches. There should be a faster card, coming most likely in December 2010.

The new card is based on two GF100-derived cores, probably similar to the GF104, so we can only imagine the TDP of that card. Our educated guess for this time is at least 400W card, something that will get very hot indeed. It would appear that we are almost at the verge of a new era, where water cooling will be a must.

AMD also plans Antilles, Radeon HD 6970 dual Cayman card, and this one also looks to be quite a hot one. A GF100GX2 was on the roadmap for quite some time, but Nvidia never decided to release the card. We guess that chose to drop it because of its enormous TDP, courtesy of two GF100 chips.

So the launch is this year, which usually means December, but we know that super high end enthusiasts will wait to see who wins this round Radeon HD 6970 or Geforce GTX 5x0 GX2, before they make the buying decision.

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20722-geforce-560-also-candidate-for-2010

Geforce 560 also candidate for 2010

Nvidia has a few more chips in its pocket. In addition to the soon-to-launch GTX 580 it also plans to release the 570 and 560 cards.

The GTX 570 will wait until Nvidia runs out of GTX 470 chips and cards and we are hearing that the GTX 560 might come this year. As we hear, it is a slightly improved GF104.

After a few months there should be a Geforce GT 540 and 520 cards for the entry level but they are almost certainly aiming for a 2011 launch.

Decisions on whether to launch some chips or not are changing almost on a daily basis, so the Geforce GTX 560 might also launch in 2011. It is up to Nvidia to figure out what to do with the GTX 460, which is doing quite well. Price drop perhaps?

new hardware is always interesting ^.^

 

[Smo21]

Need it now or can you wait a few months? Do you know if any programs you use will take advantage of Hyper Threading?

I think i can wait a lil bit longer. I believe Protool and a couple editing programs in use support it. Could be wrong tho. I quite new to programming.

 

[Fixed1979]

So I need to return my Acer GD235HZ, after it warms up any dark/black screens that are not in game make the monitor buzz like crazy, I can actually control the loudness and pitch by how much black/dark the screen is showing. The downside of ordering online is returning shit, it drives me crazy.

 

[MoFuzz]

yeah vsync was the culprit, I just finished downloading CSS and tried the benchmark there and with vsync I get 60 fps and without it I get 230 fps. I dont need all that fps so I will be sticking with vsync on.

I am just curious though, what does vsync do exactly? I mean does it have any effect on visuals and what not?

Well, in layman's terms, it caps your GPU in such a way so that it's not showing more frames than what your monitor can actively display. The end result to you is that you won't see any screen tearing.

You should know that vsync typically adds input lag which is very noticable on a mouse aiming setup, while a little less so using a gamepad. I would recommend leaving it off for anything that is more competitive, online FPS for example.

Also, you should be using D3D Overrider for vsync and triple buffering.

so is nhancer still borked for 200xx drivers or is it working fine? that and PhysX are my two main factors in switching from my current setup to either a GTX 470 SLI or 6870 crossfire setup.

They still haven't released a version that compatible with the 250.00+ drivers. Just checked earlier today as a matter of fact. Some folks in the nHancer forum suggested Nvidia Inspector as a substitute in the meantime. I haven't tried it yet myself so I can't comment on its usefulness.

 

[Cipherr]

Check your temps for idle and load to make sure your thermal paste is still fine.

I did last night, I was seeing around 33 to 34 idle on all four cores, then when running that stress test program (the one that put CPU usage at 100%) after like 10 minutes it had a high of 64 on three of the cores and a high of 62 on one of them. This is at stock settings, although I noticed when I selected the XMP profile for my ram in bios, my cpu voltage says "Auto" which kinda worries me. I dont want to overclock or over volt, I think I may need to find out what the stock voltage is, then go key it into the bios.

But anyways are those temps good? Ill run another test again today, found a IKEA Jerker on craigslist today and drove out to go buy it and bring it home. Havent had time to do much on the new system yet.

 

[ChoklitReign]

I think I've lost faith in Newegg. I can't build an affordable 6850 build anymore and even a 5770 build is $600. Can Hazaro update his budget build?

 

[PistolPete]

I think I've lost faith in Newegg. I can't build an affordable 6850 build anymore and even a 5770 build is $600. Can Hazaro update his budget build?

Can anyone tell me if the 5770 still a decent card? I'm wanting to run company of heroes at 1920x1200 and dawn of war 2 and arma II at whatever resolution it'll take at acceptable framerates....

 

[snack]

Can anyone tell me if the 5770 still a decent card? I'm wanting to run company of heroes at 1920x1200 and dawn of war 2 and arma II at whatever resolution it'll take at acceptable framerates....

I've got a 5770 and it's great for gaming. I play all my games (except BFBC2) on max settings and 1920x1080 resolution without V-SYNC. Plus, it's low on power consumption.

 

[ZZMitch]

Well, in layman's terms, it caps your GPU in such a way so that it's not showing more frames than what your monitor can actively display. The end result to you is that you won't see any screen tearing.

You should know that vsync typically adds input lag which is very noticable on a mouse aiming setup, while a little less so using a gamepad. I would recommend leaving it off for anything that is more competitive, online FPS for example.

Also, you should be using D3D Overrider for vsync and triple buffering.

Ok, thanks! I will look that up.

edit- So I downloaded it (Part of Rivatuner?) and it went into my downloads folder and I can't open it or anything.

 

[Hazaro]

Here's my current rig (the important parts, anyway):

Intel E6600 cpu
Intel DG965 mobo
4GB RAM (1066 I think?)
EVGA GTX 260 216 core
Antec TruPower 2.0 550w
Windows 7 64bit

It's been a great system in terms of reliability but I'd like to upgrade soon'ish to be current but also to be ready for Crysis 2 and The Witcher 2 and anything else I'd like to throw at it.

i5 system with a 6850. Is Crysis 2 still this year? Witcher?
Don't buy until you need to.

What would be the best GPU to go upgrade my rig with without bottlenecking it?

Your CPU will be the biggest bottleneck after you upgrade your card to a 460/6850.
The 4670 is a solid mid range card. What are your expectations, price, games, res, etc.

I did last night, I was seeing around 33 to 34 idle on all four cores, then when running that stress test program (the one that put CPU usage at 100%) after like 10 minutes it had a high of 64 on three of the cores and a high of 62 on one of them. This is at stock settings, although I noticed when I selected the XMP profile for my ram in bios, my cpu voltage says "Auto" which kinda worries me. I dont want to overclock or over volt, I think I may need to find out what the stock voltage is, then go key it into the bios.

But anyways are those temps good? Ill run another test again today, found a IKEA Jerker on craigslist today and drove out to go buy it and bring it home. Havent had time to do much on the new system yet.

Set your Voltage to what RealTemp/CoreTemp gives you as the VID (Make sure it's valid!) and see if that works.
Those temps are spot on.

I think I've lost faith in Newegg. I can't build an affordable 6850 build anymore and even a 5770 build is $600. Can Hazaro update his budget build?

Those parts are still valid. You can just get everything on there for a bit more.
Newegg decided to kill ALL the low end CPU and motherboard combos so I can't really do anything about that.

Can anyone tell me if the 5770 still a decent card? I'm wanting to run company of heroes at 1920x1200 and dawn of war 2 and arma II at whatever resolution it'll take at acceptable framerates....

The 5770 is a decent card, but not at $150. The GTX 460 768MB blows it away and can be had for $150AR (eVGA/Sparkle).
CPU will also play a very important factor for those 2 games.

 

[MoFuzz]

Ok, thanks! I will look that up.

edit- So I downloaded it (Part of Rivatuner?) and it went into my downloads folder and I can't open it or anything.

That's right, download and install the whole RivaTuner package (great for overclocking nvidia cards). D3D overrider should one of the shortcuts in the start menu folder created when you install.

 

[WEGGLES]

Oh cool! For Neweggs black november thing, today all PC cases are free shipping I guess I'll order that $39.99 case and save the $9.99 shipping...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154087


...oh... now the case is $49.99

Update to this post

Free shipping on cases now over...

Case is $39.99 again

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154087

 

[D3RANG3D]

i5 system with a 6850. Is Crysis 2 still this year? Witcher?
Don't buy until you need to.

Your CPU will be the biggest bottleneck after you upgrade your card to a 460/6850.
The 4670 is a solid mid range card. What are your expectations, price, games, res, etc.

Set your Voltage to what RealTemp/CoreTemp gives you as the VID (Make sure it's valid!) and see if that works.
Those temps are spot on.

Those parts are still valid. You can just get everything on there for a bit more.
Newegg decided to kill ALL the low end CPU and motherboard combos so I can't really do anything about that.

The 5770 is a decent card, but not at $150. The GTX 460 768MB blows it away and can be had for $150AR (eVGA/Sparkle).
CPU will also play a very important factor for those 2 games.

My current setup specs are lower than what I posted I just wanted to post those to get some Ideas as to what gpu I should get.

actual CPU and RAM:

Monitor Resolution is only 1280 x 1024.:lol

Athlon 2 x2 240 @ 2.8ghz------>Athlon Phenom 2 x2 @ 3.2ghz
Crucial PC 6400 DDR2 800mhz.------>Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel SDRAM 1066mhz

I only have Windows XP so I only have 2gigs of ram at the moment, my upgrades are coming tomorrow, the phenom 2 and the Kingston memory and win7.

Is my athlon 2 x2 bottlenecking my 4670?

 

[Ryoma-Echizen]

My current setup specs are lower than what I posted I just wanted to post those to get some Ideas as to what gpu I should get.

actual CPU and RAM:

Monitor Resolution is only 1280 x 1024.:lol

Athlon 2 x2 240 @ 2.8ghz------>Athlon Phenom 2 x2 @ 3.2ghz
Crucial PC 6400 DDR2 800mhz.------>Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel SDRAM 1066mhz

I only have Windows XP so I only have 2gigs of ram at the moment, my upgrades are coming tomorrow, the phenom 2 and the Kingston memory and win7.

Is my athlon 2 x2 bottlenecking my 4670?

The only bottleneck is with games that actually use more than 2 cores. Having an AII X2 the logical path is AII X4/PII X4 unless you want to unlock the cores of the X2 555.


ChoklitReign
Athlon II X4 640 3Ghz $100
Gigabyte 870A UD3 $98
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333 2x2GB $65
Seagate 7200.12 500GB $55
Sapphire HD6850 1GB $179
Coolermaster Elite 370 $50
Corsair 500CX $60
LG H22NS50 $20
$627

That's a good rig. Some $ can be saved here and there but it's a proven setup between my friends (weeks ago a 5770, now 6850)

 

[Hazaro]

actual CPU and RAM:

Monitor Resolution is only 1280 x 1024.:lol

Athlon 2 x2 240 @ 2.8ghz------>Athlon Phenom 2 x2 @ 3.2ghz
Crucial PC 6400 DDR2 800mhz.------>Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel SDRAM 1066mhz

I only have Windows XP so I only have 2gigs of ram at the moment, my upgrades are coming tomorrow, the phenom 2 and the Kingston memory and win7.

Return the CPU. I'm usually not so critical but getting a dual-core is incredibly short sighted. Get a 640 or 955 instead.
Upgrading RAM speed will get you a 1% performance boost. If possible buy the same 2GB kit you have to save money. If not, try to sell off the DDR2 you have.

4670 is a fine card for that resolution if you want more get a 460 768MB for $150 or a 6850 for $180. Both are great buys.

 

[zedge]

Slow down the fan with the Catalyst drivers. I set the fans to 35%, and the card doesn't go above 68C under full load. Completely inaudible. Very good cooler. The drivers default to around 70%, which is damned loud.

Ah.. thank you. So on auto setting it does not slow down when idle? Seems the fan is always at the same speed. Was 73% in the settings. I set to 50% which is much quieter. If the card gets too hot will it kick in on its own to speed up the fan?

 

[D3RANG3D]

Return the CPU. I'm usually not so critical but getting a dual-core is incredibly short sighted. Get a 640 or 955 instead.
Upgrading RAM speed will get you a 1% performance boost. If possible buy the same 2GB kit you have to save money. If not, try to sell off the DDR2 you have.

4670 is a fine card for that resolution if you want more get a 460 768MB for $150 or a 6850 for $180. Both are great buys.

The athlon 2 x2 only has 2mb of cache total the phenom 2 has 6mb just in L3cache, wouldn't that make a difference? That and I'm a filthy poor, I will return it and get a quad athlon 2.

 

[Hazaro]

The athlon 2 x2 only has 2mb of cache total the phenom 2 has 6mb just in L3cache, wouldn't that make a difference? That and I'm a filthy poor, I will return it and get a quad athlon 2.

It's not a deal breaker. It gets solid performance in comparison to the Phenom.
It's a $99 3Ghz Quad, that's just insane value.

Ah.. thank you. So on auto setting it does not slow down when idle? Seems the fan is always at the same speed. Was 73% in the settings. I set to 50% which is much quieter. If the card gets too hot will it kick in on its own to speed up the fan?

You can setup fan profiles in MSI AfterBurner if you'd like.

 

[zedge]

It's not a deal breaker. It gets solid performance in comparison to the Phenom.
It's a $99 3Ghz Quad, that's just insane value.

You can setup fan profiles in MSI AfterBurner if you'd like.

Does that work with a Gigabyte card? Sorry if thats a stupid question.. :lol