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AkIRA_22

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Bought a super cheap 5870 $AU279 to add to my current 5870. Absolutely love it. I can run everything at max or near it can't do 8xAA on Crysis just yet.
When I built my PC I did it with cross fire in mind. I knew I would need another 5870 a year down the track, which is why I sprung for the x58 platform. The single card lasted about 14 months on it's own but I've noticed there are games on the horizon that will need the extra grunt... before I can't get one.

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The screw is to keep the cards separated, to allow airflow and stop the fans of the top card from rubbing on the lower card, it's tight in there.
 

sk3tch

Member
OK, just pulled the trigger on my build! Thanks again to Hazaro, shambles, MacAttack, and feist - also Mr_Guillotine. :)

NewEgg:
$150 MSI P67A-GD53 Motherboard (EDIT: downgraded mobo)
$245 MSI Radeon R6950 2GB
$50 XFX/Seasonic P1-650X-CAG9 650W modular PSU (EDIT: added coupon feist provided)
$75 G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 4GB x 2 RAM
$13 ASUS Xonar DG ($33 - $10 GC from vid card - $10 MIR) - for Dolby 5.1 headphones

MicroCenter:
$180 Intel Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor
$28 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal CPU Cooler (EDIT: bought aftermarket HSF)
$16 Arctic Cooling MX-4 High Performance Thermal Compound (EDIT: rec by TheExodu5)
2x $60 Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200RPM 1TB HDD (EDIT: will do RAID1 on Intel mobo RAID)
$90 Cooler Master CM 690 II case

Grand total after MIR/tax is $1006.54. I have a copy of Win7 Ultimate that a MSFT buddy gave me. :)

I am excited!
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Hazaro said:
See what you can match in terms of availability and prices to the second build in the OP.
Variables:
Are new chipsets (B3) available to you?
XFX/Seasonic instead of Corsair PSU
WD instead of Samsung HDD
ATi being cheaper than nVidia equivalent part (560 / 6950).
Fredescu said:
Which state are you in? Any preferred vendor? If you keep you're case, you're really going to struggle to spend $1500. Here's a complete overkill build from http://www.pccasegear.com.au :

]http://i.imgur.com/QnjEE.png

I would check if your case can handle that length of card, and what height CPU cooler it can accept. I didn't include the CPU cooler, but there are some good options at PCCG around $40 for both full height and low profile.

A bit more of a sensible build:

http://i.imgur.com/Adw1A.png

Replace the GTX570 with an AMD if you want, there are plenty of good alternatives.

You could probably chuck an SSD in and get a new case, and still stay under budget.

Beautiful creatures. Both of you.

I'm stationed in Victoria, and am quite happy to wait for parts to be available.

Also, is that nVidia card the best choice? I was under the impression ATI were pretty much smoking nVidia as of late.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
RiverBed said:
I have a question that may be unusual, but I just moved to LA and in the next few months and even years, I'll be re-locating a lot. I want to build a kickass new PC (with the best CPU and GPU money can buy for starters), but I don't know how to move it around. So what options do I have? Can I safely ship it to my next address? I fear it will reach the destination damaged. I don't have a car nor friends with cars to do it manually and I certainly won't be allowed to carry three big boxes (the monitor, case and accessories) with me in a bus or a plane....:(
I can't stuff it in my bags either because the boxes would be too big. Besides, my PS3 plus accessories are keeping those busy.


How would I go on about that?
Shipping it? Normally if people ship a full tower they will remove the GPU and heatsink (if it is non-stock) and ship those separate or in the Case box.
EatChildren said:
Beautiful creatures. Both of you.

I'm stationed in Victoria, and am quite happy to wait for parts to be available.

Also, is that nVidia card the best choice? I was under the impression ATI were pretty much smoking nVidia as of late.
Currently a 6950 2GB is the better choice imo. In general outside the US ATi is cheaper slightly. A 570 is no slouch. Check any specific games you really care for and see if there's any large swing in either favor for you (e.g. frame boost in Dirt 2 for ATi)
 

Fredescu

Member
EatChildren said:
I was under the impression ATI were pretty much smoking nVidia as of late.
That was the case six months or so ago I guess, pre 570/580. They're pretty much exactly the same now, except at the very high end which is why the overkill list has a GTX580. ATI doesn't have a single GPU card to match it at the top end. I don't think it's terribly good value though.

Hazaro said:
Currently a 6950 2GB is the better choice imo.
Because of the ability to flash it to a 6970? Can you do that still? Otherwise, you're only paying $50 to go up to a 6970/GTX570. Worth it if he's well under budget imo.
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
So what's the aim when buying ram?
Have as low/high voltage as possible? Low/High timings?

It's pretty hilarious how cheap ram has gotten.
8gb corsair ddr 3 1600 mhz goes for like 100$, 12gb for 140$
 

BrettWeir

Member
Azwethinkweiz said:
Is this ever going to be available in the US?
I'm in Georgia, so it was up until the production error with the 2nd BIOS. The customer rep I dealt with says they will be available again on newegg once issues are ironed out. They got me my working card 4 days after they received my non-working one, so looks like they are on track.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
This build you posted, Fredescu;

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is looking pretty tight. Well within my budget and will save me a pretty penny to boot. I'll just need to look up some card measurements to make sure everything would insert into my case like a well lubed dong.

I just want something that will last. Something that will allow me to play the games of 2011 and beyond, from Crysis 2 and Skyrim to Mass Effect 3 and LA Noir, maxed out at 1920x1080 with very solid performance.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
that will - nicely. if you don't want to overclock, you could get away with a standard 2500. And even a H67 motherboard which are cheaper. Also buy a retail CPU if you want to use their cooler. If you buy an OEM CPU you'll need to add a CPU cooler to that list.
 
I'm sure that something along these lines has been asked but it's a long thread so sorry for any overlap. :)

My 5970 recently moved to a different system and has been replaced by two 6950's. Both of the new cards happily run as 6970's as well. My CPU is a q9550 @ 3.6ghz and my system is mainly for gaming with a side of video encoding. I wasn't planning on upgrading to a sandy bridge, but my CPU was clearly a bottleneck before (Metro 2033 seemed to be first obvious sign) and has now become an even greater one.

I suspect that a $350 upgrade (i5-2500k and a p67) makes sense, but I'd love some feedback. Thanks :)

Current system:

q9550 @ 3.6 ghz
4gb 1600 DDR3 (wonky I-don't-feel-like-waiting-for-an-rma purchase from Best Buy CMXG4GX3M2A1600C9)

CSSD-F60GB2
2 x HD103SJ
HD204UI*

Sound Blaster X-Gamer

*I remember my father and I once talking about those ridiculously large 1gb drives that were about to hit the market. You know, once you get one of those, it will be the drive you'll use till the day you or it dies because it's not like you'll need more space. A game, Word Perfect, Corel Draw... what more do you need?
 

MoxManiac

Member
How long do you guys think the 1155 chipset will last? I'll be building later this year, I'd like one that has some upgrade potential. It seems Intel refreshes pretty fast these days though..
 

CrankyJay

Banned
MoxManiac said:
How long do you guys think the 1155 chipset will last? I'll be building later this year, I'd like one that has some upgrade potential. It seems Intel refreshes pretty fast these days though..

I wouldn't get caught up on that. If you need/want a build now, pull the trigger. Tech is always changing, everything will always be outdated tomorrow.
 
If the GTX 590 is shorter and thinner than the 6990, I might go for that. I'm definitely going to need to get rid of that 4870 sometime soon. Or I can keep it for physics.
 

sk3tch

Member
I didn't buy an optical drive, I'm assuming all modern motherboards (such as the MSI P67A-GD53 I ordered) can boot from a USB DVD-RW with no hassle?

I've got an ASUS SDRW-08D2S-U/D-BK that I use for my MacBook Pro and I will use for my gaming PC (when optical is needed - i.e. installing Win7).

EDIT:


MacAttack said:
Anybody looking at the MSI p67a-GD65 board should also consider the two lower tier models which offer a very similar feature set at reduced prices:

The p67a-GD55 (not currently in stock at Newegg) missing features: 2 Marvell SATA III ports, 2 eSATA rear ports, dual bios, heatpipe connecting 2 heatsinks and voltage check station (the contacts are still on the board if you want to check voltages)

The p67a-GD53 (currently in stock at Newegg for $30 less than the GD65) looks near identical to the 55 but I'm sure there must be some minor difference that I cant find.

Either way, the feature set of the GD65 is a nice luxury but don't discount these other boards just because they aren't "top of the line". The differences are not that critical for most users and one of the big things that gamers are interested in is the pci-e 2.0 8x/8x for CF/SLI and that is available on all these boards.

Great advice. I did a comparo on MSI's site and it looks like the GD53 just loses the eSATA/firewire ports, the 2 Marvell SATAIII ports, and the heatpipe...things I can do without for $30. Especially since I'm buying a sataII HDD.
 

Fixed1979

Member
·feist· said:
While I don't really care about the GTX 590, I'm very interested in seeing the board design, components, temps, noise level, and power draw. May or may not bode well for the GTX 600s, and, possibly, the HD 7000s.

Board design "leaked" earlier.

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I'm cautiously optomistic about these and hope that it's a worthy successor to the 295.

I love the removable cover and don't know why this wasn't done a long time ago, hopefully this will be a new standard.

Mr. Pointy said:
If the GTX 590 is shorter and thinner than the 6990, I might go for that.

It's definately shorter. 11" v. 12".
 

mkenyon

Banned
sk3tch said:
I didn't buy an optical drive, I'm assuming all modern motherboards (such as the MSI P67A-GD53 I ordered) can boot from a USB DVD-RW with no hassle?

I've got an ASUS SDRW-08D2S-U/D-BK that I use for my MacBook Pro and I will use for my gaming PC (when optical is needed - i.e. installing Win7).
Yep, do the same thing on my gaming rig.

Mr. Pointy said:
If the GTX 590 is shorter and thinner than the 6990, I might go for that. I'm definitely going to need to get rid of that 4870 sometime soon. Or I can keep it for physics.
It will also use a *lot* more power, per some leaks I've heard from an Nvidia rep.

MoxManiac said:
How long do you guys think the 1155 chipset will last? I'll be building later this year, I'd like one that has some upgrade potential. It seems Intel refreshes pretty fast these days though..
Yeah, follow the advice above. You can't worry about longevity with sockets very much anymore. By the time you need to upgrade the proc, the mobo and RAM could probably use a solid boost too. Intel has 2-3 sockets they keep around at the same time, which kind of mucks things up a bit more. It's solid tech though, should be plenty powerful for quite awhile.
 

Jinaar

Member
And purchased!
I got my PC here at work, just finished installing all devices and WINDOWS 7 updates. Installed STEAM and getting my library installed. Cost after TAX here in Edmonton came to $1022.

i5-2500K
Asus P8P67 PRO
Antec Case - Six Hundred
WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB HDD
8GB of PATRIOT RAM
Samsung DVD Drive (fuck is this loud though, you get what you pay for at $26)
Corsair GS700 Power Supply (The 650W I wanted was out of stock, this was $30 bones more)
eVGA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti 1GB


Got pictures on the iTouch. Lets see here.... I will take a picture later of the case. Got a SIX HUNDRED Antec I believe. It's decent enough.

Hope no one minds the picture posted here.


EDIT: moving pictures to pick up thread. Cheers.
 

sk3tch

Member
Deadly Cyclone said:
Looking at cheaper widescreen monitors, this one is rated very high and is 1920x1080, can anyone vouch for it? Is it good?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+21.5%22+Widescreen+Flat-Panel+LCD+Monitor/1422193.p?id=1218257753089&skuId=1422193

I love Acer monitors. Based on MLG opinions and Digital Versus reviews, I bought an H233H (23") for my 360 (at my desk) and I'm using an H243H (24") for my MacBook Pro right now. I was also able to snag the best (in terms of responsiveness) monitor for gaming - Acer GD235HZ - 120HZ for a great deal on eBay last week.

That particular model is not reviewed at digitalversus.com (the site I trust for gaming monitors) - but they are a yourup site so perhaps the model #'s are different (i.e. my Acer GD235HZ is a GD245HQ there).
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
What's the word on :

Corsair Cooling Hydro H70 vs Noctua NH-D14?

Anyone have experience with either?
 
This is my current PC:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3 3.2 GHz 6MB
OCZ Special OPS 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 RAM PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB
620W PSU 120mm

My aim is to overclock my CPU as much as possible (aimig for 4ghz), but for that I need a new motherboard and cooler. I've got the cash so I'm pretty sure this is a good combo:

Cooler - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR&tool=3
Mobo - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-278-GI

£90. Seems good.

Anyone got a better suggestion? I'm okay paying that much and the reviews for both are great, but this thread is always good with advice so yeah :)
 

mkenyon

Banned
BloodySinner said:
I see a lot of people rocking those Corsair CPU coolers these days. How good are they?

Alright, about as equal as decent air coolers. The pump/waterflow on them sucks, so they don't have near the performance of a proper water cooling setup. The positive thing is that they barely take up any room, as you can just mount them to a fan bracket. The negative thing is that there is a very slight chance that it'll bust and pour water all over your system. Corsair will cover all of it, but that means you'll be out of a system for a little bit. It is very very rare that it happens, but it is an added risk nonetheless.

Foliorum Viridum said:
This is my current PC:
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3 3.2 GHz 6MB
OCZ Special OPS 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 RAM PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5850 1024MB
620W PSU 120mm

My aim is to overclock my CPU as much as possible (aimig for 4ghz), but for that I need a new motherboard and cooler. I've got the cash so I'm pretty sure this is a good combo:

Cooler - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR&tool=3
Mobo - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-278-GI

£90. Seems good.

Anyone got a better suggestion? I'm okay paying that much and the reviews for both are great, but this thread is always good with advice so yeah :)
Running a Crosshair IV and a Hyper 212+ on my 970 and running it at 4.0 ghz. Getting to that point entirel depends on when you bought the 955, the newer ones aren't as high quality and have trouble getting there. I don't know the performance of that Arctic Cooling CPU, but good alternatives would be a CM V6GT, V8, or Thermaltake Frio.
 

MoxManiac

Member
Yeah, that's what I figured. I think i'll try to get the best CPU I can afford so I can stave off another mobo/CPU refresh as long as possible.
 

MisterNoisy

Member
Foliorum Viridum said:
Cooler - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-035-AR&tool=3
Mobo - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-278-GI

£90. Seems good.

Anyone got a better suggestion? I'm okay paying that much and the reviews for both are great, but this thread is always good with advice so yeah :)

Unless space is at a premium in your case, I'd swap the CPU cooler for the Cooler Master Hyper 212. I have almost zero doubt that it would outperform the 92mm AC unit, and it's only £1 more.
 

-viper-

Banned
Dont purchase your PC parts from overclockers unless you like to send money to bigots and racists. Scan, aria, microdirect and ebuyer are better alternatives. Cheaper too.
 
I used to use Ebuyer, but had horrible experiences with their deliveries, so I've used OCUK for the last year or so. I really like their service, and it's only £7 more.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
sk3tch said:
I love Acer monitors. Based on MLG opinions and Digital Versus reviews, I bought an H233H (23") for my 360 (at my desk) and I'm using an H243H (24") for my MacBook Pro right now. I was also able to snag the best (in terms of responsiveness) monitor for gaming - Acer GD235HZ - 120HZ for a great deal on eBay last week.

That particular model is not reviewed at digitalversus.com (the site I trust for gaming monitors) - but they are a yourup site so perhaps the model #'s are different (i.e. my Acer GD235HZ is a GD245HQ there).

Hmm, well for $130 it is worth a shot. Anything is better than this 8 year old Dell monitor. No HDMI on it, but DVI should work just fine. May pull the trigger.
 
-viper- said:
Dont purchase your PC parts from overclockers unless you like to send money to bigots and racists. Scan, aria, microdirect and ebuyer are better alternatives. Cheaper too.

Erm no ebuyer is a complete rip off avoid at all costs
 
Fixed1979 said:
Board design "leaked" earlier.

147a.jpg


I'm cautiously optomistic about these and hope that it's a worthy successor to the 295.

I love the removable cover and don't know why this wasn't done a long time ago, hopefully this will be a new standard.
The only thing is that's a really early sample in that photo (around Sept./Oct. 2010). Looking forward to seeing the finished card. I agree on improvements working their way into future cards. For one, Nvidia followed ATi with vapor chambers, so hopefully AMD adds some larger/quieter fans.

Even for a dual GPU, the 590 going to be a premium item, so we'll have to see how things shake out.



BloodySinner said:
·feist· said:
Nothing like paying relatively high shipping costs, and then watching your order sit in the same warehouse for days without being processed.
Don't you just love that?
And just like that, the delivery gods took mercy on me.

b7z8lj.jpg


Not a moment too soon, either. The particular PC they went into was driving me nuts.
 

iNvid02

Member
UnblessedSoul said:
Erm no ebuyer is a complete rip off avoid at all costs

its not for all items, you just gotta shop around. never heard of OCUK being racist but i dont exactly visit their forums, never ordered off them simply because of their price.

my fav places, just look for best price because service is always good for these sites

dabs
scan
ebuyer
novatech
aria
ccl computers
lambdatek
kikatek
crescent electronics
 
Corky said:
What's the word on :

Corsair Cooling Hydro H70 vs Noctua NH-D14?

Anyone have experience with either?

D14 is a fucking beast of a heatsink. I dont want to put my computer standing upright. it has to be 5-6 pounds. It fits inside my antec 300 case with maybe 3/4 inch clearance from the lid(side). It does not make a noise, and my 2500k temps are never above 50c usually high 40s at max and im running at 4.6ghz.

posted this earlier in the thread.
Thats the noctua next to my CPU (you can see it on top of the mobo wrapping) and the mobo.
WTF.jpg
 

Corky

Nine out of ten orphans can't tell the difference.
Krauser Kat said:
D14 is a fucking beast of a heatsink. I dont want to put my computer standing upright. it has to be 5-6 pounds. It fits inside my antec 300 case with maybe 3/4 inch clearance from the lid(side). It does not make a noise, and my 2500k temps are never above 50c usually high 40s at max and im running at 4.6ghz.

posted this earlier in the thread.
Thats the noctua next to my CPU (you can see it on top of the mobo wrapping) and the mobo.
WTF.jpg

thats awesome, well other than it weighing as much as a small child. Also this seem to be the perfect opportunity to ask : could you point out to me how you reached 4.6ghz? Because that's pretty much what I'm aiming at. Did you follow a guide or something? Or do you perhaps have a motherboard which is easy to OC with?

Thanks in advance
 
That heatsink is a beast.

Yeah, anyone have the Corsair H70 and have any opinions on it? Been thinking about doing that instead of getting a beast sized heatsink.
 
Can't say how the H70 is, but I've got the H50 on my i7 920 at 4.2ghz and it's great. I went with it mainly because it's just 2 relatively thin pipes above the mobo and allows a lot of airflow through the case, which is why I got the HAF 932 in the first place. Temps are great, set-up was easy etc.
 

rc213

Member
Fredescu said:
Is that a special bundle, or would you save money by getting a non K processor? You can't overclock with the H67, so no need for a K processor. If you want to overclock to help along your encoding, get a P67 based board.
I need the K otherwise I can't use the onchip video with the H67?
 
DeadRockstar said:
Can't say how the H70 is, but I've got the H50 on my i7 920 at 4.2ghz and it's great. I went with it mainly because it's just 2 relatively thin pipes above the mobo and allows a lot of airflow through the case, which is why I got the HAF 932 in the first place. Temps are great, set-up was easy etc.

Thanks for your input.
 

Shambles

Member
rc213 said:
I need the K otherwise I can't use the onchip video with the H67?

The K processor has the faster HD3000 integrated graphics and it allows overclocking.
H67 motherboards allow you to use the integrated graphics
P67 motherboards allow you to overclock

You cannot at this time get the K processor, overclock it, AND use the integrated graphics on it as well.
 

iNvid02

Member
Krauser Kat said:
D14 is a fucking beast of a heatsink. I dont want to put my computer standing upright. it has to be 5-6 pounds. It fits inside my antec 300 case with maybe 3/4 inch clearance from the lid(side). It does not make a noise, and my 2500k temps are never above 50c usually high 40s at max and im running at 4.6ghz.

posted this earlier in the thread.
Thats the noctua next to my CPU (you can see it on top of the mobo wrapping) and the mobo.
WTF.jpg

your d14 fans will always run at max speed because they're 3pin and the mobo needs 4pin for voltage control. you wont be able to change the speed but its so damn quiet dont really need to. i have the exact same setup. you could attach the extra cables which lowers speed to 900rpm (down from 1300rpm) if you want.
 

Fixed1979

Member
black_vegeta said:
That heatsink is a beast.

Yeah, anyone have the Corsair H70 and have any opinions on it? Been thinking about doing that instead of getting a beast sized heatsink.

I'm waiting for my H70 to show up later this week so I can share some thoughts then. Finally getting rid of my V10 which has been nothing but headachs since the start. Size doesn't always matter.

I wouldn't worry too much about the size of heatsinks as far as weights go. MB's are strong as hell and as long as they're secured properly (the MB to the case and the HS to the MB) then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
 
Corky said:
thats awesome, well other than it weighing as much as a small child. Also this seem to be the perfect opportunity to ask : could you point out to me how you reached 4.6ghz? Because that's pretty much what I'm aiming at. Did you follow a guide or something? Or do you perhaps have a motherboard which is easy to OC with?

Thanks in advance
I have an asus p8p67 standard as you can see in the picture. First thing is to lock your BCLK to 100. any overclocking of this number will severly limit the life of your processor. If you do the auto overclock it actually raises this. So lock that to 100. set your bios to manual and turn turbo mode on. Set your turbo multiplier to 44-46 and leave everything else auto. Let your system boot and then restart it. See what the current setting are and switch to manual for your voltage and start dropping it down bit by bit to see what your lowest stable voltage is. The lower this is the better off your cpu will be in the long run. switch your load line to high. everything else should be good to go mostly, you can get a finer tune but that will put you in the right direction.
 
Fixed1979 said:
I'm waiting for my H70 to show up later this week so I can share some thoughts then. Finally getting rid of my V10 which has been nothing but headachs since the start. Size doesn't always matter.

I wouldn't worry too much about the size of heatsinks as far as weights go. MB's are strong as hell and as long as they're secured properly (the MB to the case and the HS to the MB) then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Oh ok. The weight was one thing I was worried about.

Also, one thing about the water cooling is the fear of leaks. Last thing I need to have the fluid leak on my mobo and ruin it. :/
 
·feist· said:
The only thing is that's a really early sample in that photo (around Sept./Oct. 2010). Looking forward to seeing the finished card. I agree on improvements working their way into future cards. For one, Nvidia followed ATi with vapor chambers, so hopefully AMD adds some larger/quieter fans.

Even for a dual GPU, the 590 going to be a premium item, so we'll have to see how things shake out.



And just like that, the delivery gods took mercy on me.

b7z8lj.jpg


Not a moment too soon, either. The particular PC they went into was driving me nuts.
What am I looking at here? /curious
 
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