iSurvivedTheOutage
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Got a manhattan 500w power supply for 15 bux...anyone have any experience with these as to how they hold up? I passed up on a gold 680 watt power supply because the build in the 500w one looks better
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"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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Hyperthreading, meaning it tricks the computer to thinking it has 8 cores rather than 4. In any program that is designed to be multi-threaded (meaning taking advantage of all available cores), you'll see a performance gain. There are very few games out there that will do so, Civ V being the only one off the top of my head.Mully said:
Hey guys, first post! Just about to build my first gaming rig... I have a £1000 ($1620) budget - that may seem quite a lot, but things are a little more expensive over here in the UK :/
I've thoroughly researched everything, so all I need now is the opinion of experienced fellows such as yourselves. All of these prices are £ -VAT.
Case (67.70):
NZXT Tempest EVO Midi Tower Case (6 fans)
PSU (75.52):
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W Modular
GPU (182.75):
ASUS 2GB 6950
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(195.28):
PNY XLR8 GTX 570
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(£275.13):
PNY XLR8 GTX 580
CPU (186.16):
Intel Core i7 2600K
Motherboard (111.58):
ASUS P8P67 EVO
RAM (52.57):
G-Skill 8GB XL Ripjaws X
HDD (36.98):
1Tb Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache
DVD drive (10.41):
LG GH22NS50.AUAA 22x SATA DVDRW Drive
Water cooling (42.28):
Corsair CWCH50-1 Water Cooler
Mouse (18.33):
Logitech MX518
Keyboard (28.25):
Sidewinder X4
I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on the GPU... 6950 or 570? Or should I just go nuts and get the 580?
I'm a little worried about stock with some stores so I haven't posted links, PM me if interested!
I've thoroughly researched everything, so all I need now is the opinion of experienced fellows such as yourselves. All of these prices are £ -VAT.
Case (67.70):
NZXT Tempest EVO Midi Tower Case (6 fans)
PSU (75.52):
Cooler Master Silent Pro 850W Modular
GPU (182.75):
ASUS 2GB 6950
-OR-
(195.28):
PNY XLR8 GTX 570
-OR-
(£275.13):
PNY XLR8 GTX 580
CPU (186.16):
Intel Core i7 2600K
Motherboard (111.58):
ASUS P8P67 EVO
RAM (52.57):
G-Skill 8GB XL Ripjaws X
HDD (36.98):
1Tb Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache
DVD drive (10.41):
LG GH22NS50.AUAA 22x SATA DVDRW Drive
Water cooling (42.28):
Corsair CWCH50-1 Water Cooler
Mouse (18.33):
Logitech MX518
Keyboard (28.25):
Sidewinder X4
I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on the GPU... 6950 or 570? Or should I just go nuts and get the 580?
I'm a little worried about stock with some stores so I haven't posted links, PM me if interested!
Saren is Bad
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Fuck not the EVO board, go with the Pro or Deluxe if you really need it.Jibbed said:
Also, I'd go for the 580, I have one and I'm a 60 fps loser and it's awesome.
iSurvivedTheOutage
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the 680 watt power supply was a echo star...yuck
Seems a lot of people see a properly calibrated image and think it's washed out, or dull because they're used to years of overly sharpened image viewing with a fair amount of push (usually red). The bleeding and inaccuracies you get from old light sources, or poorly implemented LED doesn't help. Plasma is great, but even with all the advances, I wouldn't use one with certain types of viewing.ithorien said:
I'm still sad that SED was stillborn. Remember when it looked like laser may have had a chance of leapfrogging LED?
Intel's LightPeak (aka Thunderbolt) is about the only mainstream solution that can displace USB 3.0 from becoming the next go-to standard.jarosh said:
You have external storage moving to USB 3.0, for instance.
USB 3.0 chip shipments to show 120% CAGR to 2015, says Digitimes Research
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110211PR201.html
I'm assuming the 50% difference includes VAT. The premium isn't that high in other regions. Apart from an occasional USB 3.0 flashdrive, I wouldn't want anything hanging off the front of an enclosure like that. Wouldn't you have at least two connectors on the motherboard? Could always use an extension cable if reaching the back is a hassle. Also an add-in USB 3.0 card would cover you if you need more ports later on.
Now you see the role that fan played in the overall case flow.jarosh said:
Saren is Bad
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You dont gain anything to warrant the extra $.Jibbed said:
As far as the Z boards, I'm pretty sure all you gain is onboard video so really just your preference and if that's worth 10$ to you.
I've got kind of an embarrassingly stupid question, but I don't have time to research at the moment and would be grateful if someone here knew off-hand.
My parents have an older (2007-2008) HP laptop that they want to hook up to their HDTV. It has a VGA port. Do I just need to get a vga to rca cable, or do I need some kind of converter box like this?
Any help is much appreciated!
My parents have an older (2007-2008) HP laptop that they want to hook up to their HDTV. It has a VGA port. Do I just need to get a vga to rca cable, or do I need some kind of converter box like this?
Any help is much appreciated!
thanks. all very good points.·feist· said:
oh feist feist feist... honey, darling, as long as you're here, could you please give me your thoughts on just a few more things:
1) modular psu in the gd05, yea or nay? necessary? wanted? needed?
2) i have downgraded my build from 8 to 4 gigs to save a few bucks. i just don't know anymore though. why have we apparently all decided 8 are too much again all of a sudden?
3) ssds. goddamn ssds. i should stop reading about them. they sound so goooood. but so goddamn expensive. should i really bother?
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
kurtrussell said:I just finished building a new rig for bitcoin mining and thought I'd drop in here and recommend a mobo
The MSI 890FXA-GD65 truly is the greatest motherboard I've ever purchased for any purpose whatsoever.
Superb Stability: Military Class Components
Unlock CPU Core: Unlock hidden CPU core and potential
DrMOS: Best power efficiency
Support USB 3.0 AND SATA 6Gb/s
Lossless 24bit/192kHz HD Audio
DDR3 Memory DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600*/1800*/2133*(OC)
PCI-Ex16 2
PCI-E Gen Gen2 (2x16)
PCI-Ex1 4
PCI 1
SATAIII 6
USB 3.0 ports (Rear) 2
USB 2.0 ports (Rear) 8
Are you using this board with a Phenom II x6 by any chance?
If so DO NOT OVERCLOCK IT. MSI's AMD motherboards have a design problem where it can't handle the power the cpu is demanding, and basically the motherboard fries itself.
Just FYI when you stress out the cpu with Prime95 with the cpu overclocked is the primary culprit.
I didn't know about this until too late and now i have to RMA my board to MSI.
Well he listed a C400 so I guessed speed might be important.TheExodu5 said:
I still agree with you in that I think you are saying 'an SSD is SSD fast'.
Check your board and cards for bulging or popped capacitors first.nextgeneration said:My pc exploded.
What PSU? Was your PC clean? Are there any burnmarks?
$15 PSU? I wouldn't plug a fan in it to test, let alone a whole computer.iSurvivedTheOutage said:
You get what you pay for.
Get an XFX Core 450/550w if you are outside the US. Those are generally as cheap as the Corsair HX/TX.
Only thing I'd sub in is the Samsung F4 2TB as it has a higher platter density. Looks solid.Ryusei said:
Not if it's bitcoining. Probably a single core Athlon.AwesomeSauce said:
leroidys said:
Funnily enough, my laptop has HDMI out but I don't have the cable for that myself. VGA cables are ridiculously cheap these days so I wouldn't worry, as for the sound...
I use a cable like this, going from the laptop head-phone port to the 'AUX' port of my sound system. I'm not sure if your TV will support something like this, so have a look first! That's pretty much as basic as a sound cable can get.
There are probably adapters out there that can combine VGA and stereo sound out to something like a SCART or HDMI, so that'd be ideal.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Not completely related to this thread but still very much related. I'll cross post it here from the MBA thread since you guys are a knowledgeable bunch.
Can someone more knowledgeable enlighten me with the differences between each processor? It's gibberish to me. I'll be getting a MacBook Air which will very likely use these processors. It's not for gaming (other than OnLive ). I'm just interested in the performance differences.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/20/intel-shipping-new-1-7ghz-1-8ghz-macbook-air-class-processors/
Can someone more knowledgeable enlighten me with the differences between each processor? It's gibberish to me. I'll be getting a MacBook Air which will very likely use these processors. It's not for gaming (other than OnLive
). I'm just interested in the performance differences.Bboy AJ said:Not completely related to this thread but still very much related. I'll cross post it here from the MBA thread since you guys are a knowledgeable bunch.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/20/intel-shipping-new-1-7ghz-1-8ghz-macbook-air-class-processors/
Can someone more knowledgeable enlighten me with the differences between each processor? It's gibberish to me. I'll be getting a MacBook Air which will very likely use these processors. It's not for gaming (other than OnLive
Well you can kinda tell by the minimal price difference... there is hardly any performance gain for the extra $50 or so. If you're not gaming and just desktop browsing/onlive streaming, the i5 would be fine. If you want a tiny bit more power, go for the cheaper i7 - if it was me in your shoes, that's what I'd go for.
Bboy AJ said:
The 'turbo mode' is essentially when the CPU boosts its' clocks from (in this case) 1.7 to 2.8ghz... this is done automatically (or manually if you wish) by the system if it feels it needs more power for applications, so it keeps things running smooth.
The cache basically reduces the time it takes for your system to access and read memory, so bigger is better, but the difference between 3 and 4 will be tiny - we're talking milliseconds.
Jibbed said:Funnily enough, my laptop has HDMI out but I don't have the cable for that myself. VGA cables are ridiculously cheap these days so I wouldn't worry, as for the sound...
I use a cable like this, going from the laptop head-phone port to the 'AUX' port of my sound system. I'm not sure if your TV will support something like this, so have a look first! That's pretty much as basic as a sound cable can get.
There are probably adapters out there that can combine VGA and stereo sound out to something like a SCART or HDMI, so that'd be ideal.
Just bought an HDMI cable for a friend, it was $2.48. Just get it.
iSurvivedTheOutage
Member
Hazaro said:
thx will look into those
anyone have any experience with a superclocked gtx460?
Amazon has them on sale and im tinkin bout grubbin me one a dem
elrechazado
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link? this interests me tooiSurvivedTheOutage said:
iSurvivedTheOutage
Member
elrechazao said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GHNEME/?tag=neogaf0e-20
only a few left..if the gaffers grab them up it wont bother me as my PC probably wont be finished till late August (my b-day)
IB was always a minimum 12 months out from the launch of SB.Mudkips said:
The three are nearly identical, down to each being 2C/4T parts, with HD3000 graphics.Bboy AJ said:Not completely related to this thread but still very much related. I'll cross post it here from the MBA thread since you guys are a knowledgeable bunch.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/20/intel-shipping-new-1-7ghz-1-8ghz-macbook-air-class-processors/
Can someone more knowledgeable enlighten me with the differences between each processor? It's gibberish to me. I'll be getting a MacBook Air which will very likely use these processors. It's not for gaming (other than OnLive
1) Absolutely. Not mandatory, but highly beneficial, particularly since you'll have a low lying case. This isn't a Corsair 600T, or Cooler Master 922 where you have acres of space for spare cables. Airflow is also key, with th eless obstructions the better.jarosh said:thanks. all very good points.
oh feist feist feist... honey, darling, as long as you're here, could you please give me your thoughts on just a few more things:
1) modular psu in the gd05, yea or nay? necessary? wanted? needed?
2) i have downgraded my build from 8 to 4 gigs to save a few bucks. i just don't know anymore though. why have we apparently all decided 8 are too much again all of a sudden?
3) ssds. goddamn ssds. i should stop reading about them. they sound so goooood. but so goddamn expensive. should i really bother?
2) I haven't. If you know for certain you won't need it at all, pocket the difference.
3) One of the best things you can do to any computer. At the least consider picking up a 40-64GB SSD to get you started. Bulky applications like Windows and Photoshop are a great deal more responsive with one.
On a related note, here's a quick reference guide for anyone looking to find out the differences with an Intel 320 series SSD.
·feist· said:
Sure, but Bulldozer was supposed to be here by now, to drive down prices.
And by the time it's out, I'll be thinking "I waited this long already, why not wait a little more for Ivy Bridge?".
I'm still rocking (as in, rocking chair) a C2D E4400 @2.4 or 2.6 GHz, don't remember which.
SE = Slow EditioniSurvivedTheOutage said:
It's a very gimped 460.
If you are spending $110 on a card and can't afford $140 then it is ok. But not if you are thinking you are getting a deal on a $160 card.
Hopefully BD comes when it says it does and offers something for the enthusiast market.Mudkips said:
Any more delay and Ivy Bridge with Tri-Gate and the promise of the 1155 socket is hard to pass up.
adam.chance
Neo Member
Your Current Specs: Intel Q6600 2.66Ghz g0 stepping (not overclocked) / 4Gb DDR2 / Gigabyte Mobo (nothing fancy) / nVidia Gtx 460 1Gb
Budget: $200 + USA
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii)
Monitor Resolution: 50" 1080p Plasma
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Star Wars: The Old Republic, Diablo III, Battlefield 3, Skyrim
I realize my rig is getting pretty old. It has been performing well. Playing SW:TOR is the biggest priority. I know I won't be able to play these games on high. I am moving to Japan in December, so I want to avoid a complete build. Is there anything I can upgrade to get enough juice out of the rig to play TOR? What do you guys think?
Budget: $200 + USA
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (PS2/Wii)
Monitor Resolution: 50" 1080p Plasma
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Star Wars: The Old Republic, Diablo III, Battlefield 3, Skyrim
I realize my rig is getting pretty old. It has been performing well. Playing SW:TOR is the biggest priority. I know I won't be able to play these games on high. I am moving to Japan in December, so I want to avoid a complete build. Is there anything I can upgrade to get enough juice out of the rig to play TOR? What do you guys think?
momolicious
Member
What is good to place a computer on instead of on a carpet? Is a hard piece of plastic good enough and safe to place on the carpet to prevent tons of dust going into the psu?
Got:
Gigabyte intel p35 mobo w/E8400, full atx
Radeon HD3850
Windows 7 64 w/4gb ram
2 HDD's
50" hdtv
Want:
HTPC case
Vid card w/hdmi audio capability
What are the best bang for the buck vid card options here? This is mostly a media machine but I would like to be able to game as well. I'd like to keep it ~$150 for the card, unless there's something much better in that range.
Also, does it make any sense to look at downsizing mobo's to a micro/mini with what I've got? I've got plenty of room in my stand, but the selection of full atx htpc case options on newegg is pretty weak. I'd rather not pay Lian Li prices, but if that's the only way to get a case that's not a piece of junk I'll pay the premium. Any better alternatives out there?
Gigabyte intel p35 mobo w/E8400, full atx
Radeon HD3850
Windows 7 64 w/4gb ram
2 HDD's
50" hdtv
Want:
HTPC case
Vid card w/hdmi audio capability
What are the best bang for the buck vid card options here? This is mostly a media machine but I would like to be able to game as well. I'd like to keep it ~$150 for the card, unless there's something much better in that range.
Also, does it make any sense to look at downsizing mobo's to a micro/mini with what I've got? I've got plenty of room in my stand, but the selection of full atx htpc case options on newegg is pretty weak. I'd rather not pay Lian Li prices, but if that's the only way to get a case that's not a piece of junk I'll pay the premium. Any better alternatives out there?
Guys, so I decided to upgrade to an Intel Core 2 Quad, but I'm not sure which one I should go with. Help me out here, please!
Q8400 2.66ghz($180) vs Q9550 2.83ghz($300)
Is it worth the extra 120 bones for a little more, um, ghz? Or should I go for the cheaper one? Are there any huge differences between the two?
Q8400 2.66ghz($180) vs Q9550 2.83ghz($300)
Is it worth the extra 120 bones for a little more, um, ghz? Or should I go for the cheaper one? Are there any huge differences between the two?
Replace the mobo and CPU then. You can get a new motherboard and CPU for the price of that Q9550.L00P said:Sadly I can't go with sandy bridge cpus. I'm stuck with an LGA775 mobo I stupidly bought
Right now I have an E5800 dual core and I just want better frame rates in games like Dead Space 2 and Assassin's Creed.
Add $100-$150 to your budget for RAM and power supply, and there you go.
That's your upgrade.
slidewinder
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Put it on eBay or Craigslist. It does not make any sense to pay that kind of money for one of those CPUs; you're just digging yourself a deeper hole.L00P said:
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