why not use a boutique like ibuypower or cyberpower? although I must say the PC being sold at craigslist is pretty good. you could buy and build a current better one, but if you don't want the hassle of building (and let's face it, sometimes it's a bit, A BIT of a pain) this is pretty good.
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If you want to get ripped off, fine, do it. Not my money. But I will always do my best to give you solid suggestions on getting the best for your money.
Solid suggestions are good. But having to put together the whole thing piecemeal and wait around hoping that I get lucky on some incredible sales is another deal altogether. I'd like to go out and buy a steak dinner for $25 and you're telling me that's a ripoff because you can buy steak and cook it at home for $7. I ask how and you tell me that I have to sit around waiting for steak for steak to go on sale for half off and constantly monitor the prices at every butcher in the area. I'm not opposed to making dinner at home, but it's too much hassle to do it that way.
Plus if I wanted to watch prices and research every single part there would be no point in this thread, which I thought was meant to be a sort of shortcut for others looking to evaluate and buy. If I can build a much better rig for less, then it needs to be with regular, everyday prices and not every single component bought at some rock-bottom closeout.
Boxed (NOT OEM) CPUs come with a Heatsink.Do I need an additional heatsink with that build? I don't plan on overclocking.
2 weeks for 7 series hopefully. Check back then. Anandtech Bench in OP can help you compare.Okay, I want to post before I checkout.
I currently have an i7 920 setup built the week of the i7 launch. My GPU from the build is a Radeon 4870 and it's getting old. I'm looking at getting the Radeon 6950 OC from Gigabyte but I don't know if I should pay a little extra for the 560ti 448 or wait for the new AMD lineup.
Does anyone know when the new AMD GPUs are being released? OC 6950 vs 560ti 448?
edit: I was looking at the 1GB 6950, should I be looking at more VRAM or is 1GB sufficient?
Looks fine to meTrying to help a friend pick together a gaming PC. He wants it as cheap as possible and able to run Skyrim well, here is what I have come up with so far (prices in Swedish krona).
Please share any opinions you may have!
Absolutely. ~60fps high settings for most titles you want to be playing at 1080p. SC II is a lot more CPU demanding so it'll probably drop a bit there, but overall very good.So the budget build is definitely a capable rig? Basically all I want to do is play Blizzard and Valve games. I don't need to be able to run Crysis 2 on the highest settings. Thinking of jumping in on that build right now.
Find out your PSU wattage first
Looks fine to me
Alright, PC GAF, I'm finally jumping into the pool. First time builder so I need pretty much a new everything. Looking for 1080p, some emulation, getting most of the big name multiplatform stuff (BF3, Arkham City, Skyrim, Deus Ex, etc. etc.). Looking to keep it around $1500, and am open to suggestions:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Processor ($180 @ Microcenter around me)
Motherboard: ASUS LGA 1155 Intel Z68 ($170)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8 GB PC3-12800 1600mhz 240-Pin DDR3 ($42)
GPU: ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II ($350)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM ($157)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast Series 750TXV2 ($105)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R ($122)
Optical Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST ($20)
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus ($20)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit ($100)
Mouse: Logitech G400 ($35)
Moniter: ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch LCD Monitor ($144)
+ Controller: Xbox 360 Wired ($34)
Total: $1480 before tax.
How does this look? Also, am I forgetting something in typical nub fashion?
The cons are you are buying into a no longer supported motherboard socket and a now two generation old value level graphics card.
I thought the 5770 was top-of-the-line in its own time?
Thanks for the info, though. I never really cared about upgrading processors. It seems like by the time I want and am ready to upgrade, I might as well get a whole new system anyhow. But just in case, is there a decent mobo+CPU I can buy and be sure of support for the next couple years?
So Im looking to build or buy a PC that can last me a couple years of gaming.
I can get this from the Dell Outlet for $580 before taxes (Maybe even less if a coupon comes out)
Dell Studio XPS 8300
I7 2600
500gb HDD
8gb RAM
460W power supply
What would be the best graphics card I would be able to put in there? And does anyone know if I could upgrade its power supply if I want to put in a better card?
The 4870 which the 5770 is a rehash of was the top of the line ATI/AMD when it was released IIRC.
That's a horrific deal. I built my rig that's over 2x as powerful as that one for under $500. Huge ripoff. It's hard to recommend buying a PC on Craigslist, the prices are so inflated. I would pay maybe $250 for that rig at most.
Intel® Core™ i7 860 Processor, stock 2.8ghz but it believe it's overclocked 3+ ghz.
8gb DDR3-1600 memory
Asetek liquid cooling
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB graphics card.
ASUS P7P55D LE Motherboard with Intel P55 Chipset that supports crossfire.
500gb hard drive (I'm not a big space guy)
700w PSU/SLI ready
Windows 7 home premium installed (unless you wanted the drive formatted)
NZXT Tempest EVO case
Running a Fractal R3 with an open side is kind of wasteful. The whole point of the R3 is sound dampening.
edit: ooooh, there's glass?
What's the box to the left of your 360? I recognize that...
You're blowing things out of proportion. It's not a great deal, but he's not really getting ripped off either. And sorry, but you're not building something 2x as powerful for $500.
Let's take a look:
Let's approximate the component pricing:
CPU: $150
Motherboard: $80
RAM: $30
GPU: $100
HDD: $80
PSU: $50
Case: $80
OS: $100
You're looking at $670 new to equal that build. Considering it's a used system, it's definitely overpriced, but I just wanted to shine some light on the situation.
For the $500 you're touting, you're not getting the OS or a hard-drive included at that price.
Already built something 2x more powerful for $500.
Who the hell would buy a 5770 for $100 when a 6870 is $130 on Newegg? Who would spend $80 on a case for a budget build? etc
Trying to rationalize the price of that system is silly.
List me your build for that price. I'm curious.
i5 2500k + Asus z68 $190
GTX 570 = $60
HAF 912 = $50
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile RAM 2x4GB DDR1600 = $50
PC Power & Cooling PSU 760w Silencer Mk II = $70
(Misc)
NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller = $25
5x Scythe Kaze 120mm fans = $25
Hyper 212+ = $20
Total = $490
Threw in my old X-Fi and my Vertex 2 SSD. Had Windows 7 already too. Skipping the 'flair' (fans + conttoller + cm212), it would've been $420.
Anyways, I'll piece together an example build for border.
I don't know how you bought the GPU at that price but most people can't buy at that price.
Anyone have a sec to help me with my sound card? I have a Sound Blaster X Fi titanium...(Best Buy gift card) I got it because my receiver only does spdif, and I wanted DTS 5.1 for my PC games.
it does DTS Connect/DD Live, but I can't get it going with my receiver. Whenever I click the DTS Connect option under encode in the sound blaster control menu, it moves back to non supported, and the connection seems to doing 2 channel audio. I've been doing DD/DTS with consoles on this receiver for many years, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
i5 2500k + Asus z68 $190
GTX 570 = $60
HAF 912 = $50
Corsair Vengeance Low Profile RAM 2x4GB DDR1600 = $50
PC Power & Cooling PSU 760w Silencer Mk II = $70
(Misc)
NZXT Sentry Mesh Fan Controller = $25
5x Scythe Kaze 120mm fans = $25
Hyper 212+ = $20
Total = $490
Threw in my old X-Fi and my Vertex 2 SSD. Had Windows 7 already too. Skipping the 'flair' (fans + conttoller + cm212), it would've been $420.
Anyways, I'll piece together an example build for border.
You got your GTX 570 for $250 less than it should cost. You did not have to buy an OS or hard drive. It's not a fair comparison.
Hmm I kinda remember something about 2 channel audio being forced for some reason. You know how you can switch between Entertainment mode, Game Mode, and Audio Creation mode? I think one of the modes forces 2 channel audio. Try switching.
Oh, and use these drivers: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/pax-d...hd-driver-suite-v1-20-release-redownload.html
I use these with my old X-Fi XtremeMusic. They blow away stock Creative drivers and are more stable, with more featureset and much better audio quality.
So I might be building a new computer soon. And here is what I was thinking. Any suggestions?
The card and black case is free so disregard the price on those lol.
Well, kind of embarrassing but I can't find the actual link for the drivers.
So my build that I posted earlier didnt get any feedback and Id like some before I bite and do this. But now Im not so sure on spending so much if someone can build a better computer for $400-500? Disregard the 4gb card price and straight black case, those are free for some reason.
Uninstall your Creative drivers, use Phyxion's Driver Sweeper in Safe mode to clean them out.
http://dl.technewshw.com/driver/PAX/PAX MASTER PCIe Titanium HD Driver Suite V1.20.7z
There's the download link. These drivers work wonders. The author is constantly updating them and tweaking them. I hope they fix your problem.
Word of advice: Drop the 1 TB HDD. Look on Slickdeals for HDD deals. I have seen deals on there where you can get 2 TB drives for $80-100.
Also, the HAF 932 for $160 is kinda ridiculous. Get the 922, I think it's like $70-80?
Alright thanks, the 922 is a mid tower case, would that cause any problems space wise?
really shittin on us here with your $60 570. . .
i paid some over 300!!
Absolutely not. I have the 912 and it's very spacious, and the 922 is even bigger. Even when I had 2 GTX 570's in there + my sound card + the Hyper 212+ cooler, still plenty of room. All the HAF 9x2 cases are awesome.
Awesome. Video card wise is the 560 ti still a good option? Price to power ratio. Not like I can get a 570 for $60 lol
Depends on your games. The 560 Ti is a great card, but the 560 Ti 448 Core is basically a $280 GTX 570, so I'd look into that too if you have the budget. It has a bit more VRAM too.
If you're playing Skyrim and you want to load up on high res texture mods, I gotta recommend the 6950 2 GB. With all my high res texture mods + 4x MSAA, I'm hitting the 1280MB VRAM limit on my GTX 570 and it causes slowdown, so I had to take out one of the texture mods.
Just a warning if you're doing anything that'll use over 1280 MB VRAM (which Skyrim will if you do texture mods.)
Well game wise its the usual, steam, skyrim, battlefield 3, some racing sims, probably get the witcher 2. Im coming from a 9800gt so this will still be a substantial upgrade I would imagine.
Hm... it's really, really hard to recommend the 560 ti with 1 GB of VRAM over the 6950 2 GB. The 6950 might unlock to a 6970. Yeah, Nvidia has some nice perks, but 2 GB VRAM is very useful.
I'm not biased towards Nvidia or AMD, I like them both a lot, so you can't go wrong either way.