Seems like we're in the same boat
I'm really torn. The price is what's really swaying me. $265 is really the right price for a video card for me. I don't spend more than $300 on a card. It's never been worth it to me.
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Seems like we're in the same boat
I'm really torn. The price is what's really swaying me. $265 is really the right price for a video card for me. I don't spend more than $300 on a card. It's never been worth it to me.
Xdrive05
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Seems like we're in the same boat
I'm really torn. The price is what's really swaying me. $265 is really the right price for a video card for me. I don't spend more than $300 on a card. It's never been worth it to me.
Yup. Same here. My last five cards have been: 6800, 8800GT, GTX 260, GTX 460, GTX 560 TI, LOL. So I like my $200-$250 price range. And each time I flip the previous card for about $150 on craigslist or ebay, so $50-$100 in the hole for a new mid-range card each year or two.
The 660 takes its knocks at higher resolutions, but my monitor is only 1680x1050 so it should be a great fit there. Especially at $264.
Two (maybe stupid) questions. I have never build a pc before, so I don't know the set up process. My keyboard might not arrive today, but everything else will.
1- is there a way to set it up without a kb/m?
2- can you set it up using a wireless kb?/m? Or does it have to be a wired one?
Thanks.
1- is there a way to set it up without a kb/m?
2- can you set it up using a wireless kb?/m? Or does it have to be a wired one?
Thanks.
Done and done.
Need kb at least, can be wireless as long as PC recognizes the dongle no problem which nowadays shouldn't be an issue.
Same boat indeed. lol
I went 6800, GTX 260, GTX 460 now GTX 660ti. My monitor is only a 1680x1050 too. To be honest even the 460 is still doing the job. I rock high settings most games.
I just ordered it. The ASUS cooler gets really high marks from HardOCP and the benchmarks are great. For the price it's pretty much perfect for me. Instead of selling my 460 though I may try to use it as a dedicated PhysX card for shits and giggles.
done
and since I am now registered I also added my own rig
http://www.cooledpc.com/build/318
btw 20 prizes available for Limited CSQ, with only 14 contestants ? lol @ anyone who qualifies but doesn't register
done
and since I am now registered I also added my own rig
http://www.cooledpc.com/build/318
btw 20 prizes available for Limited CSQ, with only 14 contestants ? lol @ anyone who qualifies but doesn't register
Voted. Clean up that desk cabling!
I don't get some of the top ones in Limited CSQ. The danger blue one is actually quite ugly and not that well done.
Guys, do you know why Windows Vista isn't stretched out my entire 24" screen? There's black bars at the left, right, bottom and top.
It says it has the latest driver and I'm running VGA>HDMI cable.
It says it has the latest driver and I'm running VGA>HDMI cable.
Try the scaling in nvidia control panel/catalyst control or your monitors built in scaling controls. Also how/why? VGA to HDMI wouldn't work with out an active converter and why not use your graphics cards DVI or HDMI port?
Xdrive05
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Just ordered it too. I even wanted AssCreed3, so win-win. That 460 will make one hell of a PhysX card man. Enjoy it.
Done! I am a big fan of the green and white.
Sorry for using flash, bad lightning in this corner of my room and I didn't have any tape to put over the reflectors, but holy crap the FT03 mini is tiny!
The rest will come later this week along with a Sugo Pack* and I was wondering:
If I carried the PC in a bag as hand luggage on a short plane trip, would it be wise to take the GPU out and put it somewhere else in the antistatic bag with something soft around it or will it be ok inside the computer? GPU will be an OEM 7870.
*Didn't know my backpack would fit it when I bought it, but I still don't think the zippers will last carrying it
The rest will come later this week along with a Sugo Pack* and I was wondering:
If I carried the PC in a bag as hand luggage on a short plane trip, would it be wise to take the GPU out and put it somewhere else in the antistatic bag with something soft around it or will it be ok inside the computer? GPU will be an OEM 7870.
*Didn't know my backpack would fit it when I bought it, but I still don't think the zippers will last carrying it
Registered and voted. I appreciate all the info you post in this thread.
hehe all the cables for TV/Receiver/Speakers/Lights are already cleaned up, and I rather keep the PC cables a bit loose so I can disconnect them easily without having to disassemble my entire desk. Desk itself is pretty clean imho
(slanted walls so basically I had to do all cabling while moving around like a baby seal ... getting the receiver properly connected from that position was a nightmare lol)
as for the votes ... well ... check out the names of the owners and the nationalities of the people posting comments. Not all votes have been 100% objective probably
Sorry for using flash, bad lightning in this corner of my room and I didn't have any tape to put over the reflectors, but holy crap the FT03 mini is tiny!
The rest will come later this week along with a Sugo Pack* and I was wondering:
If I carried the PC in a bag as hand luggage on a short plane trip, would it be wise to take the GPU out and put it somewhere else in the antistatic bag with something soft around it or will it be ok inside the computer? GPU will be an OEM 7870.
*Didn't know my backpack would fit it when I bought it, but I still don't think the zippers will last carrying it
haha that's awesome
you need to make sure the GPU is secure and doesn't move ... it can damage the PCI-e connector on the card or on your motherboard if it shakes it around too much. Just the regular screw on the I/O panel probably isn't enough, but it depends on the weight of the card itself as well.
I've seen those boutique PC builders ship their systems with special "air pockets" around the CPU heatsink and GPU so that they don't move during transport, but I can't really find any examples right now
They have barely launched their mid-low tier cards a couple of months ago (HD 7750 and Nvidia 650) and their mainstream cards like the 7850 weren't out until March 2012 and hitting mass market price more or less now so unless you plan on buying top of the like cards (HD 8950/70 or Nvidia 780/90) at an outrageous price (>500$) you're going to wait for at least one full year.
If you really NEED to upgrade in less than 3 months, a current card is your best bet.
Azzurri
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I believe we will see high end video cards April/May
I believe we will see rumours of a April/May launch only to be pushed back to August.
Yeah, in this NCIX vid they show off a shipped computer with zip wires around the GPUs and bubble wrap everywhere. With 5800 series cards (back then the 58XX where high end cards like the 79XX while 59XX (5970) was dual GPU) they shipped them with the GPU outside the case and it had to be mounted.
A bag carried by a person will of course not be dropped unlike a box during shipping, but to be safe I think I will carry it with the GPU somewhere else. I could have an accident and drop the bag and those Dash 8's can have some bouncy landings sometimes ^^
Don't forget the prices. 7850s and 7870s weren't very good value untill the 650ti/660/660ti came forcing price drops. Back then the 6870 was the value card to go for even though the 7770 and 7850 where out.
Looks really good man. I hear a lot of positive things about the bgears 140s, but you do need to spin them down a bit. Noctua has a new 140mm out that works really well too, doesn't fit your theme at all. Spectre Pro 140s would work wonders, but again, run pretty loud at stock speeds. Otherwise you could get some 140->120 shrouds. I know that noiseblocker is working on 140mm versions of the eloops too.
Thank you!
I think you need to make your own account to post one, but am not certain. Automotive quality paint jobs are fairly pricey, and you need to know how to remove all of the rivets in your chassis as well as put it back together. I think a good option for this is to get a CaseLabs SM8, since they can ship it unassembled with just primer. That saves a bit of money on a good paint job. The SM8, for the price, is a pretty outstanding product. I'm not a fan of their aesthetic, but a great paintjob would certainly help.
Also keep in mind those automotive grade paintjobs will scratch fairly easily, which is why most folks opt for powdercoating.
Just about any non-budget case from the OP.
Thank you, and I voted for yours too! You can vote for as many as you want.done
and since I am now registered I also added my own rig
http://www.cooledpc.com/build/318
btw 20 prizes available for Limited CSQ, with only 14 contestants ? lol @ anyone who qualifies but doesn't register
It's more of a popularity contest than a proper judging of good jobs. If it were the latter, the RedHarbinger and 800D would be #1 and #2 by a long shot.
Thank you all!
Willkiller
Banned
Building my first PC.
Should I go for Windows 7 or 8?
Should I go for Windows 7 or 8?
Willkiller
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Almost exclusively a gaming machine!
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah I figured it was a decent set up for that. Also I'm a huge fan of the total war series which are very processor intensive so the 12 threads won't hurt.
OP is still up to date. I don't know what you are looking to spend on a keyboard, but the only thing I was going to update in there is the budget headset section and the high end keyboard part. CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid can be found for $50-70 at a number of stores right now.
OP has a Small Form Factor Guide. Should help with a lot of your questions. tl;dr, it is slightly more expensive than a standard build because enthusiast ITX motherboards are a new thing still, and you have to be more careful with PSU/cooler selection, which brings up the price by about $100-150.
Zalman clip on mic + best headphones you can find.
Total War engine is quad threaded, which means that anything above 4 threads won't be used.
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Also, games like that, which are able to take advantage of more cores than games which typically place the bottleneck on the CPU like UE3 stuff which only uses 2 cores, almost always have a very tiny amount of CPU scaling. Shogun 2, for example, doesn't perform much differently on a low end Bulldozer (bad at gaming), than a 3930K/X with the same GPU. In fact, it's pretty much on par with a $100 i3.
Cannon Goose
Member
I have this case (CoolerMaster Elite 334U) and it came with one fan in the top rear corner. It's got room for a bunch more fans and I was wondering where I should put them to create the best airflow.
Also there's no spot for a fan on top of the case, am I really missing out by not having the air come out the very top?
Also there's no spot for a fan on top of the case, am I really missing out by not having the air come out the very top?
Putting together the parts for my first Gaming/HTPC. Please let me know if I'm overlooking anything.
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core
Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155
Memory: SAMSUNG MV-3V4G3D/US 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Case: nMEDIAPC HTPC 5000B HTPC
Power Supply: SeaSonic USA SSR-550RM
OS: Windows 8 (64 bit)
Do I need an additional heat sink/fan for this build? I did get some ARCTIC MX2 Thermal Paste.
Any opinions on the Logitech K400 Wireless Keyboard? Just looking for a small keyboard since I'll be using it to control XMBC (and mainly 360 controller comfy couch gaming).
For those with PCs hooked up to your main TV, how are you getting your internet? I already have a modem/wireless router hooked up to another computer. Was thinking about adding a Powerline since I want to stream media off of it.
Any easy guides for overclocking an i5 2500k?
Would ideally like an SSD to put the OS, XBMC and Steam on and at least a 1TB HDD to store games and media on. Is this how most allocate their memory? Could I get away with a smaller GB size SSD (<128) to save money?
Thanks for the help. I have lots more stupid questions, but will leave it at this for now.
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core
Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) Micro ATX LGA1155
Memory: SAMSUNG MV-3V4G3D/US 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Case: nMEDIAPC HTPC 5000B HTPC
Power Supply: SeaSonic USA SSR-550RM
OS: Windows 8 (64 bit)
Do I need an additional heat sink/fan for this build? I did get some ARCTIC MX2 Thermal Paste.
Any opinions on the Logitech K400 Wireless Keyboard? Just looking for a small keyboard since I'll be using it to control XMBC (and mainly 360 controller comfy couch gaming).
For those with PCs hooked up to your main TV, how are you getting your internet? I already have a modem/wireless router hooked up to another computer. Was thinking about adding a Powerline since I want to stream media off of it.
Any easy guides for overclocking an i5 2500k?
Would ideally like an SSD to put the OS, XBMC and Steam on and at least a 1TB HDD to store games and media on. Is this how most allocate their memory? Could I get away with a smaller GB size SSD (<128) to save money?
Thanks for the help. I have lots more stupid questions, but will leave it at this for now.
From what I understand, it's all about picking the right kind of amplifier for your headset. Otherwise, the DACs on almost all motherboards nowadays are pretty good.
One on the front, one in the top/rear.
You have an H61 motherboard and a 2500K. If you want to overclock (which you should if you are going to game on it, it's why sandy/ivy are such great processors), then you will need to get a Z68/Z77.
1) If you want it to run more quietly, or overclock, yes.
2) No opinion. I don't know enough about wireless kb/m
3) With a Cat 5E cable that goes through my wall.
4) Yeah, OP. ctrl-F overclock
5) I don't find myself hurting for room with 128gb for everything except media storage.
2500k and H61 motherboard dont make sense. You need a P67 or Z77 motherboard in order to overclock the 2500k
opticalmace
Member
Would it be stupid to replace my Antec 900?
It just feels so cramped. The 6950 is huge, the cabling is everywhere, and I have a bunch of drives in there. If there's no benefit to upgrading it (thermals, ease of access maybe?) then I can just ignore it.
Any thoughts one way or the other?
It just feels so cramped. The 6950 is huge, the cabling is everywhere, and I have a bunch of drives in there. If there's no benefit to upgrading it (thermals, ease of access maybe?) then I can just ignore it.
Any thoughts one way or the other?
Motherboard has already been covered, change your GPU to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127706
I find cases mostly an aesthetic thing. Thermals/noise can vary but unless you have reallllly bad temperatures or OC a ton it wont make a huge difference. As for ease of access unless you tinker a lot (like i do almost every week) then once its built its built so its fine till you decide to upgrade in a few years.
I had an Antec 900 with a NH-D14, two GTX670s, 1000W PSU, fan controller, 6 hdds and fans on every spot possible. That case can fit a lot
Good catch on the vid card, good $10 savings there.
So yeah, I'd definitely suggest an upgrade.
I try to avoid generalizations towards brands, as it betrays some irrational behavior. But my distaste for Antec is pretty fierce. They're benignly predatory, as their designs are pretty much terrible, but they know they can bank on brand recognition and the fact that they are sold everywhere.
So yeah, I'd definitely suggest an upgrade.
ashbash159
Member
Does anyone have a good solution for Wi-Fi using PCI Express? I'd love it if you could link to a page to buy it (UK £££ prices please).
I currently have a Linksys WUSB100 v2 and it's shit. I only get 10 Mb/s (full signal though) out of my normal 30 Mb/s I get on every other device.
Thanks!
I currently have a Linksys WUSB100 v2 and it's shit. I only get 10 Mb/s (full signal though) out of my normal 30 Mb/s I get on every other device.
Thanks!
blackprophesy
Member
I use the TP-Link TL-WN951N (£20.60 on Amazon) and it's great. I have a 100Mb/s fibre connection and I have no problems getting 7-8MB/s.
Ugh. So how screwed would I be performance-wise if I stick with the H61? Know my wife already purchased it as a Christmas gift. Also, according to PCPartpicker, the case I'm getting does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports, but Z77 motherboards have an onboard USB 3.0 header; how much of an issue is this?
It'll be a constraint in some games, not in others. UE3 engine games (Borderlands 2, Batman, lots of others) and SC2 will be bottlenecked heavily. Other games, you wouldn't notice a difference at all.
There's no issues with missing USB ports, it just means you don't get to use any.
Great. Now how do I tell my wife to return a gift I'm not really supposed to know I'm getting in exchange for a more expensive one? :/
With chocolate.
I can't get any video with the Ivy Processor. The fans all boot up and such, though the processor seems to get hot very quickly (all the fans turn to full speed within 15 seconds or so)
Is the BIOS set to IGP output for graphics?
I'm not sure. It's currently outputting from my video card with the Sandy processor installed. I guess I'll see if I can find that setting.
I see and IGD setting in a couple places, but can't find this "IGP".
Does your current motherboard BIOS support Ivy Bridge?
I updated to the BIOS version that is supposed to.
I'm on version E7750IMS V5.0 which is supposed to be Ivy compatible.
Well, plugged my video cable directly into my mobo and not it displayed.
What do I need to do to use my video card though?
I would actually prefer a powder coating. I went to CaseLabs and checked out the SM8. I really LOVE how accessible it is. But the STH10 is the one that really caught my eye. That tower looks so elegant, but it's taller than the Cosmos II and with such a big tower I feel like all that space would go to waste. I would go with the SM8 or SMH10, but they look so... fat. Never thought I'd be tempted to buy a $600 case. I'm definitely doing research between CaseLabs and Little Devil. They seem like the best case manufacturers on the market
Have you tried both the motherboard and the video card after a full restart? As in, plug it into the mobo output, restart. If no video, plug it into the videocard output, restart. If this is not working, try going into BIOS with the SB chip in there and disabling onboard video. Then put the IVB chip back in there and try booting with video out from the videocard.
Yeah, they're made for high end watercoolers. Both Caselabs and Little Devil. For a similar high end chassis meant for more standard systems (as in, you don't need space for 3 radiators), Lian Li is where it's at.
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