Canis lupus
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When you move your pc parts and motherboard from one case to another and assemble it back, do you have to do a system installation or is everything the way it was?
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Opus Angelorum
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Every should be fine, some additional drivers might be installed if the new case has some external connections (USB/Firewire).
If you're just transplanting the guts from one case to another? You shouldn't have to.
Canis lupus
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Thats good to know. I currently have a htpc case and thinking of replacing it for a normal case for convenience sake.
Because the pc is 5 meters away from my future gaming monitor I need a wireless keyboard(mechanical preferred) and mouse that will work from that range, I plan on playing BF3 with it. Will they work from that range without losing response time?
Because the pc is 5 meters away from my future gaming monitor I need a wireless keyboard(mechanical preferred) and mouse that will work from that range, I plan on playing BF3 with it. Will they work from that range without losing response time?
Just want to say that I built my new computer in large part thanks to the guide in this OP, and I am VERY pleased with the results. Honestly, they far exceeded my expectations. You know, when it comes to PC hardware there are so many choices that it can be overwhelming and hard to filter through everything, but the build guide really helped me to narrow down what I should be looking at. Thank you to everyone who made this possible.
btw, in case you're curious:
Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition ($52)
i7 2700k ($230 at Microcenter)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO ($36)
Asus P8Z77-V LK ($150 at Newegg)
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) (For free, bundled with mobo by Newegg)
Samsung 830 SATA III SSD ($70, from the deal I posted in this thread)
$538 USD total, $548 if you include Windows 8 (yeah, I got it for $10 legit from Microsoft, long story but I had a 75% off coupon)
The PSU (a quality 550W) and GPU (Radeon 4850) are from my old comp, and I'm going to replace both of those soon. They probably need to be replaced together anyway - I'm just not sure what I'm going to go with yet.
Thanks again everyone. You made my first computer build a blast!
btw, in case you're curious:
Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition ($52)
i7 2700k ($230 at Microcenter)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO ($36)
Asus P8Z77-V LK ($150 at Newegg)
Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) (For free, bundled with mobo by Newegg)
Samsung 830 SATA III SSD ($70, from the deal I posted in this thread)
$538 USD total, $548 if you include Windows 8 (yeah, I got it for $10 legit from Microsoft, long story but I had a 75% off coupon)
The PSU (a quality 550W) and GPU (Radeon 4850) are from my old comp, and I'm going to replace both of those soon. They probably need to be replaced together anyway - I'm just not sure what I'm going to go with yet.
Thanks again everyone. You made my first computer build a blast!
If you have a good 550w PSU you don't need to replace it at all.
An i5 is overkill if you aren't gaming. You can easily get away with some AMD APU option in an mATX or smaller config. i7 won't help at all.
I'd go for a BP550 since it's modular although there are some 400w modular options now that can do the job.
Samsung 30nm low voltage RAM.
A 660Ti should be coming close to the $250 mark after rebates and the 7950 deals around $300 include 3 games to help lessen the blow. Both are great upgrades.
Shouldn't need to replace a good 550w unit. I ran my computer on my 520W Corsair for a good amount of time.
I'm having more of a hypothetical question. I don't plan on upgrading right now, but I guess I'll need to at least next year.
I've always upgraded selectively and tried to have my system as future-proof as possible, since I can't afford just buying a complete new system every couple of years. Thus, I'm looking for a partial upgrade and need some opinions on what would be the most effective way to do so. I'm not that much into PC gaming anymore, and rather need something with a good price/performance ratio.
My current system looks like this:
Phenom II X4 945 (Deneb, AM3) w/ Freezer 64 Pro
Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3H (AM2)
Radeon HD4850
4 GiB of RAM (DDR2)
400w PSU (be quiet)
My plan was keeping the CPU and switching to an AM3 Board with DDR3 RAM along with a new GPU (and possible PSU), which should cost me around 330 Euro according to the Falcon Guide from the OT. Is that a viable option? Any new fancy hardware generations to look out/wait for?
I've always upgraded selectively and tried to have my system as future-proof as possible, since I can't afford just buying a complete new system every couple of years. Thus, I'm looking for a partial upgrade and need some opinions on what would be the most effective way to do so. I'm not that much into PC gaming anymore, and rather need something with a good price/performance ratio.
My current system looks like this:
Phenom II X4 945 (Deneb, AM3) w/ Freezer 64 Pro
Gigabyte GA-MA69G-S3H (AM2)
Radeon HD4850
4 GiB of RAM (DDR2)
400w PSU (be quiet)
My plan was keeping the CPU and switching to an AM3 Board with DDR3 RAM along with a new GPU (and possible PSU), which should cost me around 330 Euro according to the Falcon Guide from the OT. Is that a viable option? Any new fancy hardware generations to look out/wait for?
You need a rehaul. New CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU/PSU.
To get the most out of your system NOW just overclock the CPU as high as you can (Swap to a CM 212+ for a heatsink) and drop in a 7850/7870. Will do you well until you can upgrade everything else.
If you aren't upgrading for months come back and see if the next gen of cards is out (Which will drive the prices of the old stock down).
Don't bother with an all new motherboard and RAM unless you are going to get an i5 along with it.
Do videocard now, save for mobo/proc/ram. Haswell might be coming out in March-June 2013, but it's not looking like it's going to be some huge generational leap performance wise. The focus is all on power savings and doing more with less.
Do videocard now, save for mobo/proc/ram. Haswell might be coming out in March-June 2013, but it's not looking like it's going to be some huge generational leap performance wise. The focus is all on power savings and doing more with less.
GoldenEye 007
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All my parts came in last week. Everything looks to be working well except the power supply I had to return due to it being DOA. Amazon sent a new one already and I should have it once I return home from work.
Now it is a matter restoring my data and just getting used to the Win8 interface more.
Now it is a matter restoring my data and just getting used to the Win8 interface more.
Canis lupus
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Does having your wireless keyboard and mouse 4-5 meters away from your pc affect your response time?
Gigabyte
Question for some experts. I replaced my 560Ti's stock cooler with the Arctic Twin Turbo II. I have idle temps of around 41 degrees now, but when I plug my second monitor in, it shoots up to around 81-86. Is this normal? I cant even game with the second monitor plugged in, it overheats and crashes.
Sorry for the german link, but do you mean this one? http://www1.hardwareversand.de/2048...+2GB+GDDR5,+2x+DVI,+HDMI,+DisplayPort.article
I've used USB 2.0 stuff in the back USB 3.0 ports from my PC and everything works good so there might be something wrong in your side. Just some questions:
- Where are those front 3.0 ports connected? Directly to the mobo? With a long cable to a back 3.0 port as a kind of "extension cord"?
- Have you tested them with an USB 3.0 capable device?
- Have you checked the bios settings just in case? Maybe you have to enable some kind of backwards compatibility mode that is not ON by default or something.
- Have you installed USB 3.0 drivers? They should come with your mobo's installation CD (or the manufacturer website). If Windows automatically installed them, it might be a good idea trying to override the generic ones with the ones from the CD.
sorijealut
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I want to learn/try to build a PC in the near future, but for now it's all too overwhelming.
OP's guide seems wonderful for me, and I may go for a $600-800 range later.
I will keep reading the thread and wait until prices go down.
OP's guide seems wonderful for me, and I may go for a $600-800 range later.
I will keep reading the thread and wait until prices go down.
At this point in the generation, prices are likely to stay where they are until the next video cards launch, which could be as short as a few months, or as far out as six. Processor/motherboard prices will remain constant, even after a new set is launched. Older motherboards might come down a bit, but processors (Intel at least) are stagnant.
Mad Hatter
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How about Crysis 2?
Anton Sugar
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Potentially beyond stupid question here: can I switch out/upgrade my comp's motherboard and CPU without anything "bad" happening? As in, I wouldn't even touch the existing hard drives--I'd just swap out the motherboard and CPU for new parts and reconnect the hard drives and everything else. Is this...ok?
- Yeah, directly to the mobo. Both USB3 cable and also a USB1/2. No extension cords are used.
- Don't actually have any USB3 to test with, I'll to get try to get one to test.
- I installed the ones on the CD from Intel, but I haven't checked for any updates. Will do it now.
Thanks so far!
EDIT: The newest drivers gives me an error:
The setup program failed to install one or more device drivers.
Setup will exit.
Go into device manager and delete the drivers from there. Reboot, reinstall.
If the parts are the same ones, just different physical versions, then no prob. If they are different parts, even within the same chipset type, you will want to reformat.
Anton Sugar
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Canis lupus
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So much that it will affect how I perform online?
I'd like to know this as well. Since I'm setting up an HTPC in an entertainment room I pretty much have no choice but to sit 10+ feet away from the computer when using it. They don't make keyboards with 15' cords do they?
If you do it from USB, it should only take about 30 mins including driver installation.
I say build youself, and if you can't, get an Alienware X51.
Absolutely, yes. I don't mean to draw lines in the sand and sound like a snob, but if you're not serious about competitive gaming, it's not something that a lot of people notice or care about. If you are serious and like precision, then it's going to be frustrating.
Infinite Justice
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I've heard about some places were you buy the parts offering a fee to assemble what you bought. Sounds like a really interesting proposition imo.
Also remembered that i didn't even post i picture of my build (before and after) as an appreciation for the great help/advice i got from this thread but GODDAMN do my camera devices suck massive balls.
So i won't be able to post them yet
plus with that my next step is to get a good digital camera.So how do I get myself 15+ foot keyboard and mouse cables?
Thanks, I will look into a 7850 then. Is the power consumption significantly higher compared to the 4850?
You buy a 12' USB extension cable.
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Nice, been playing Hotline Miami all week. Great game, I'm about 2/3rds of the way through.
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oh my goodness
Turns out my USB3 problem is something the Prodigy have issues with.
I found this guide: http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/f...3-0-front-io-malfunction-on-bitfenix-prodigy/
Tried it, didn't work which I guess is because Windows install the same drivers again when i reboot. Will fidle with it tomorrow, just good to know nothing needs to be returned.
I found this guide: http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/f...3-0-front-io-malfunction-on-bitfenix-prodigy/
Tried it, didn't work which I guess is because Windows install the same drivers again when i reboot. Will fidle with it tomorrow, just good to know nothing needs to be returned.
Anton Sugar
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The reinstall itself isn't the problem--I lost my install CDs for some software that I need to use, so I was hoping I could just swap out parts, and finish up my work. I have a friend who can lend me his discs, but not until a week or so. The mobo is a new one (upgrade, not the same chipset), so I don't think that will work.
Ah well--I'll just get the work done on my current build. Thanks!
Anton Sugar
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I...don't know why I didn't think of that. Haven't used torrents in forever due to general paranoia, but I'll check it out, thanks.
A lot lower, Anandbench only gives the 4870 for comparison but it'll be close enough. According to them you're talking about 50 watts less or so, as well as running a lot cooler.
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Torrents are better than they've ever been. Speaking of which is there a premium torrent client for windows? I got waaaay too used to all the beautiful and amazing torrent clients on osx. I'm using the free version of utorrent right now on windows and dont like it. I would definitely pay good money for a well designed and clean app.
Well, I would not say that.
My microsoft x8 mouse does not have any noticeable input lag.
Depends, sometimes it can work, some times it does not.
e.g Going from a C2D on an Asus motherboard to an i5 2500K on an Asrock motherboard worked, but going from one ASUS C2D motherboard to an other did not.
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