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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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I know, but with the rumours they will announce stuff in taipei it might become more accurate soon.
This is the last thing that I saw about release dates: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-700-Maxwell,21918.html
Sure, but some of it isn't that bad, how much should I proximately value it?
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31077-desktop-geforce-7-comes-by-computex
From what i can see the CPU is the part that is worth the most, anywhere between 50-100 euro's (according to ebay). Maybe the PSU 50/60, but the rest isnt really worth anything worthwhile.
I've got $10 that says it's a Titan SE (scaled down, less expensive).
$300 sounds fair.
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My oh my.....
Looks good.
*edit* Realized it was a Q9xxx
$300 sounds fair.
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My oh my.....
Looks good.
Heck, even if they announce anything it may end up being nothing more than a rebrand in an attempt to combat AMDs game bundles. I'm not holding my breathe either.
TerryLee81
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I've got $10 that says it's a Titan SE (scaled down, less expensive).
*edit* Realized it was a Q9xxx
$300 sounds fair.
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My oh my.....
Looks good.
Looks very nice. Damn it. I already bought 2 cases this year
MadOdorMachine
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MadOdorMachine
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For one thing, they're pretty much unavailable and two, the 690 has better performance for the same price.
Edit - Unless I'm wrong. Is the Titan a better choice? I'm really wanting to future proof my PC until Volta & Haswell comes out. Either way, the Titan's seem impossible to find and the 690 has a slight edge from what I've read.
You can use a PCI-e 3 card on a PCI-e 2.0 board, since PCI-e is fully backwards compatible.
Still you might as well get a titan if you're going to spend that much money on a graphics card. Or go with something more budget conscious like a gtx680 or hd7970, since those cards will also be a massive upgrade from a 560ti. Furthermore if you go with the titan make sure to overclock your CPU, if you haven't done so already, since it will be a big performance bottleneck otherwise.
MadOdorMachine
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Thanks for the help. I'm curious, why go with Titan though? The 690 is more powerful correct? It's also the same price and actually in stock.
cpp_is_king
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Just bought the ASUS VG248QE. This 120Hz stuff better live up to the hype!
I don't think I'll be getting 120 FPS in games with all settings at max with just my single GTX 680, so what's the sweet spot that you guys typically aim for in terms of FPS where going higher doesn't really make much more of a noticeable difference?
I don't think I'll be getting 120 FPS in games with all settings at max with just my single GTX 680, so what's the sweet spot that you guys typically aim for in terms of FPS where going higher doesn't really make much more of a noticeable difference?
theSlacker
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Looks good.
Yeah that isn't bad. Didn't like how that style of front looked on the 900d, but looks nice on a smaller case. Still wish they would have went with the angled door front that the 650d has, but this is pretty good too. Also don't all their other D series cases have some sort of door opening mechanism instead of thumb screws? Guess the small space may have prevented that for this.
Looks like room for 2 hard drives and then some new mounting thing for SSDs. Would like it if they gave another cage for like 2 more hard drives that fill up the space of the second video card. Still really nice, but will have to wait for more details to see if it is a better buy then the TJ08B-E.
More looking forward to seeing if they turn the 250d into a mitx case that doesn't have the mb at a weird position so that you have all the options with video cards open.
The 690 is technically more powerful, but limited by two things - 2gig of video ram and all of the SLI potential problems. Titan is powerful single gpu with 6gigs of ram, so it likely won't run into issues with the ram during its entire life cycle and there is no worry of microstutter or games not working on release date. The minor speed advantage that the 690 has I think is countered by the rest of the features of the Titan.
Goodness gracious. Who would pay that much? I'll take LD PC-V7 or Caselabs SM8 instead thank you.$200 shipping to your door
Get a Titan, they come back in stock fairly regularly.
690 gives you a frame of input lag. If you are unfamiliar with SLI, then you might lose out on half of your video card's ability in newer games, betas, etc. Other times it can just be a bit wonky. Those issues are definitely not the norm, but can and do exist. Your PCI-E 2.0 will also bottleneck it slightly. If you are comfortable with all of that and don't mind tinkering a bit when it comes to do so, then it's an outstanding card. It does also only have 2GB of VRAM, which may be a limiting factor at some point in the future.
The Broken Ska Record
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I just got my computer parts in a whole day earlier than I expected. Sadly, my case is still not for a few days. Very tempted to use my old, ugly case in the mean time because I'm impatient.
CreepingFear
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You could at least do an outside test boot to make sure your mobo,cpu,ram,gpu, psu are working.
Case itself is $350. If you really want one, wait for it to come back in stock at Amazon and use Prime for free shipping
That's what I'm saying.Case itself is $350. If you really want one, wait for it to come back in stock at Amazon and use Prime for free shipping
$550 for that when you could have a PC-V7 or SM8 is madness.
The Broken Ska Record
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You could at least do an outside test boot to make sure your mobo,cpu,ram,gpu, psu are working.
Good point. Although I'm pretty sure I'll just say "fuck it" and just set up my rig in my old case.
Quick question, store where I ordered my sapphire 7970 still hasn't received it and I must travel to pick up the rest of the PC on Wednesday, and that store seems to have gotten http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R7970-TF-3GD5-BE.html#/?div=Overview one in stock, is it good? Should I pick it up instead of waiting for sapphire which I think costs more, not to mention asus which is like 50e more.
CreepingFear
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ha ha, I'd probably do the same.
Woo! Nice!
With my 7950 I've just had to turn a few of the most taxing features down to medium or something and not get too crazy with AA to get 120fps on the more demanding games. I'm incredibly pleased with how easy it is to get the most out of the 144hz monitor while still keeping the games looking quite nice (do keep in mind that I came from a terrible setup, so my "quite nice" could very well be different for you). But yeah, I've been aiming for 100-120fps on the games that I can't simply max out. I'd say that once you're getting a consistent 80fps, you're into diminishing returns. It all depends on how much you value good graphics over ultra-smoothness.
I find that ultra smoothness is becoming the most important factor when it comes to graphical fidelity. Ultimately, graphics are all trying to create the illusion of motion. While image quality can certainly make it more pretty and lifelike, smooth motion is a paramount factor for me personally.
MMBosstones86
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Thanks. Ordered!
Who the heck is charging $200 in shipping?
cpp_is_king
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If you read the thing, it's a special thing because they're saying they're just getting the first shipment from Hong Kong to their warehouse, and then they'll ship from their warehouse to customers. But for people who can't wait a few extra days, they can pay $200 and have it shipped directly from HK to their house.
Might be easier to try it out with the stock fan. Those Corsair units have some nice thermal paste on them but you might have to re-apply some new stuff if you end up having to take it it off before getting it in your case.
I was really considering that 900D a few weeks ago. I figured I would never run into a space issue again. Then I saw the actual thing in person... hell no. Thing is an eyesore. Well, that goes for all full towers I guess. They all look just ridiculous.
Ended up going for the 650d.
Whoops... should have read the second paragraph. I stopped reading to see the videos that were linked.
Luckily, I'm a patient man. I'm waiting for Maxwell and Broadwell... As for now.. I have my build money collecting interest in a savings account. By the time I get ready to use it I'll have a whole extra 240 bucks to play with... Definitely not worth the wait. Since I don't think highend Maxwell GPUs will cost more than 800 (that's including a water block) I'm thinking of dropping cash on the new GTX780m laptops hitting the streets soon to satisfy my hunger a little bit.
So confused with CPU coolers, I've been jumping back and fourth but I was going to go with the Corsair Hydro Series H100i CPU Cooler which is $145, but I've been recommended to go with the Cooler Master Hyper 212.
Why is their a $100 difference? Surely the Corsair one would be more effective, but then again I can only judge by prices since I know nothing about prices.
Why is their a $100 difference? Surely the Corsair one would be more effective, but then again I can only judge by prices since I know nothing about prices.
That's like an apples and steak comparison. You have yea, a nice effective air cooler in one hand, but in the other hand, you have a super efficient liquid cooling system.
Liquid cooling has more parts, a bit more complex, but far more effective.
Justifies the cost difference.
The Broken Ska Record
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I am utterly confused and I'm not sure what to do at this point. My computer is not showing my SSD. I've tried connecting it to both types of SATA ports (3.0Gb/6.0Gb). Not only that, but I can't seem to find any documentation about how to fix the issue either.
Mobo: P8 Z77-V LK and SSD: Samsung 840 120GB.
It does read my HDD though, so it can't be the ports on the MOBO.
Mobo: P8 Z77-V LK and SSD: Samsung 840 120GB.
It does read my HDD though, so it can't be the ports on the MOBO.
Ohhh okay, got it. Thanks for the response. Might just stick with the H100i.
Is it worth getting the $145 H100i with this build?
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 OC 4GB
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black 2TB WD2002FAEX
CPU Cooler: Enermax Liquid CPU Cooler ELC240
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DGX
Optical Drive: Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SSD
RAM: Corsair Vengeance CML16GX3M2A1600C10 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl
MOBO: MSI Z77 MPOWER Motherboard
PSU: CoolerMaster Silent Pro Hybrid M850 850W
I'm assuming your replacing the bolded product with it? If so than yes, if your planning to overclock or even live in warm climate. Cool cpu is a longer lasting cpu, or capable of over clocking higher.
Does it see it n the Bios? Is this all fresh build, not adding it on after the fact?
Alright sweet, cheers for the speedy response. Just want this build finished.
Edit: Just called, he's going to see if the H100i will fit in the Fractal Design Define R4 case, hopefully it does.
Does it show up in the Bios? If yes, most likely, you need to go into Disk Management and activate/format the SSD before it will show up /be usable in Windows.
I_D
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HELP!
I just upgraded my computer and used a fresh Windows install and now it has random lockups.
I've been using it with an i3+gtx560 without any hassle for a few months. I just upgraded to an i7, gtx670, new RAM, and a wireless card. It has a 700w PSU.
It doesn't slow down or get hot. It'll be running perfectly then suddenly have a complete lockup.
I've tried reseating everything, making sure the fans work, making sure the RAM is reading properly, tried changing the RAM speeds, the hard drive is fine. I don't know what else to do.
Any ideas?
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568
Wiress: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166021
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152042
SDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211603
OLD GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130758
OLD CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775
OLD RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148194
I just upgraded my computer and used a fresh Windows install and now it has random lockups.
I've been using it with an i3+gtx560 without any hassle for a few months. I just upgraded to an i7, gtx670, new RAM, and a wireless card. It has a 700w PSU.
It doesn't slow down or get hot. It'll be running perfectly then suddenly have a complete lockup.
I've tried reseating everything, making sure the fans work, making sure the RAM is reading properly, tried changing the RAM speeds, the hard drive is fine. I don't know what else to do.
Any ideas?
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568
Wiress: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166021
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152042
SDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211603
OLD GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130758
OLD CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775
OLD RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148194
First thing, run memtest to test your ram. Everything at stock specs, CPU, RAM, GPU and etc? Are the lockups random or does it happens more often while doing intensive stuff, like gaming, benchmarkings and etc?
Infinite Justice
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Does the bios see it but its not found in windows?
if so go to Disk Management and activate it (had to do that with my 1TB HDD)
cpp_is_king
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Disclaimer: This is why I hate building my own computer. Sigh...
Anyway, I did a very mild overclock of my Core i7-3930k to 4.1GHz. I did it through the ASUS AI Suite Auto Tuning option and just choosing the "Fast" option, not the extreme. Today I tried to resume my computer from sleep and after a few minutes of black screen I had to do a hard power off. When I restarted my computer and got an "Overclock Failed" failure at POST. After a few reboots and restarts it finally worked and is still overclocked, I didn't have to reset BIOS or anything. I'm using this liquid cooling system.
I feel like this is a pretty mild overclock given that I'm using liquid cooling, so I don't think I should be having this problem. And it's not like the CPU or anything else was under load at the time anyway, as the problem happened on a cold boot after resuming from a sleep.
Any ideas?
Anyway, I did a very mild overclock of my Core i7-3930k to 4.1GHz. I did it through the ASUS AI Suite Auto Tuning option and just choosing the "Fast" option, not the extreme. Today I tried to resume my computer from sleep and after a few minutes of black screen I had to do a hard power off. When I restarted my computer and got an "Overclock Failed" failure at POST. After a few reboots and restarts it finally worked and is still overclocked, I didn't have to reset BIOS or anything. I'm using this liquid cooling system.
I feel like this is a pretty mild overclock given that I'm using liquid cooling, so I don't think I should be having this problem. And it's not like the CPU or anything else was under load at the time anyway, as the problem happened on a cold boot after resuming from a sleep.
Any ideas?
Don't use the auto tuning for overclock. There are some settings that an overclock ruins in regards to sleep mode. They need to be disabled in BIOS. You can still have sleep mode, but some energy saving modes probably need turned off.
Not sure if it's the same problem, but on socket 1155, there is a problem with having Internal PLL enable and crashing coming out of resume / hibernate. Try disabling it in your socket 2011 MB in the Bios. Also, it's best to manually overclock. Use the auto OC future to get an estimate what settings you need for X speeds, and then, set it manually yourself.
cpp_is_king
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So should I undo the overclock and then try to do it manually? I'm always scared of manual overclocks because I have no clue what I'm doing and every time I try to read a guide I always end up being like "screw this shit" after the second paragraph.
theSlacker
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Too bad more game developers don't feel the same way. The real blame has to be put on the gamers and consumers though who for the most part are fine with sub 30 fps dips in games in the name of EPIC GRAPHICS BRO. Not going to go looking for it, but I remember a study done by some dev a few years back that had people picking "I like it when there is slowdown because it is like a reward for doing something crazy". They determined that a higher stable frame rate didn't effect the sales or review score of a game, so it wasn't something that they were going to keep striving for. Think it was Insomniac.
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