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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Terbinator
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you don't need as 800MHz is the "right" speed. As its DDr RAM it doubles, so 800=1600MHz.
Not really, a few weeks ago there was this article on AV-Test that it wasnt safe enough.
I always recommend using Kaspersky, but there are other brands that will probarly perform well enough (just make sure its compatible with W8). I find it weird that people spend 1000's of dollars on hardware and dont want to pay 25$ for a decent AV tool.
The only virus protection you need is common sense, in my opinion
But if you absolutely do need something, MSE is a good bet.
The only virus protection you need is common sense, in my opinion
Fully agree. I went years without a virus protector during the Windows XP era and I was never hit a with a virus. Worst case, maybe a browser toolbar which I accidentally forgot to uncheck during an installation of a program.
These days, I run MSE because they are very lightweight, yet effective.Hey, I just have a few questions if anyone is able to answer them, that'd be appreciated.
1. How do I know/check how many spots I have left on my MOBO for fans? Here's my MOBO,
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21537
If you scroll down there's a large image of the MOBO. I have one fan at the front, one at the back, and a two fan CPU cooler at the top. Do I have any more room for more fans on the MOBO or no? Greatly appreciate any help.
And secondly, anyone know why my LED light on the front of my fractal design define r4 case keeps twitching/flashing, and doesn't stay on?
1. How do I know/check how many spots I have left on my MOBO for fans? Here's my MOBO,
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21537
If you scroll down there's a large image of the MOBO. I have one fan at the front, one at the back, and a two fan CPU cooler at the top. Do I have any more room for more fans on the MOBO or no? Greatly appreciate any help.
And secondly, anyone know why my LED light on the front of my fractal design define r4 case keeps twitching/flashing, and doesn't stay on?
For a really long set of years I used AVG free virus scanner along with zone alarm firewall, then zone alarm starting packing virus scanner in with their firewall so I was only using their products.
With my new system I'm just using windows firewall and Microsoft Security essentials for virus scanner. Easy, small updates. No complaints.
But I'm not one to download random shit. I haven't downloaded a single torrent or anything. I only use retail software or more realistically, open source software.
I use GIMP for photo editing past the RAW stage, which I simply use canon's utility to convert from. I do own a copy of light room, but don't use it.
I might eventually pay for a bluray movie playback suite, but not a big concern. Everything else for my needs I just go to Open Source Alternatives.
There is quality open source software for almost any need now.
With my new system I'm just using windows firewall and Microsoft Security essentials for virus scanner. Easy, small updates. No complaints.
But I'm not one to download random shit. I haven't downloaded a single torrent or anything. I only use retail software or more realistically, open source software.
I use GIMP for photo editing past the RAW stage, which I simply use canon's utility to convert from. I do own a copy of light room, but don't use it.
I might eventually pay for a bluray movie playback suite, but not a big concern. Everything else for my needs I just go to Open Source Alternatives.
There is quality open source software for almost any need now.
Dave_6
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I'd personally redo the build (Sucks I know). There could easily be something stuck behind a plate and shorting, or some half plugged in connector, maybe a bad power connection.
Oh well. I think I'm going to just let it sit for a couple days. I got way too frustrated with it last night; it's the fact that I spent ~$1400 and in my mind it's already fucking up.
The first game I downloaded and installed was Hotline Miami and it launched and worked fine. Then Bioshock won't do anything...
GHG
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Is your motherboard SLI capable? I'd recommend spending that extra money towards another 660. Its the setup I have and it blasts through everything smooth as butter, downsampling and all.
If not then I would say just get a custom bios and overclock your 660. If you've got a good chip you can get performance that sits between the 660ti and 670. I wouldn't recommend spending $170 on what will be an incremental jump.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...HD-7870-plus-HD-7790-HD-7850-GTX-650-Ti-BOOST
Hard drive activity (or ssd)
Oh okay, thought it was supposed to remain on. That's good then, thought it was broken or something.
Yea. Since the R4 only has one LED on the case, the builder has the choice of linking said LED to the motherboards power LED header or HDD activity header. They probably thought that more useful. It's just a personal choice, no harm.
I ended up just linking mine to the power so it's always on when machine is on. /shrug
Do you have to go through the case to change that? Or can you do it through settings or something?
Dave_6
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Yeah you have to do that with the plugs on the bottom of the board. Yours sounds like it is done the same way I did mine (I have an R4 too).
Damnit, what a pain haha. Guess I'll leave it as it is and change it later.
Does anyone know a good monitor brand, that's sort of cheap? Is BenQ any good? o.o
Shouldn't be that bad... I unplugged my power and HDD LEDs since they were bright and blinked too damn fast in standby.
I thought I'd share my build pricing experience since I heavily used the information from this thread due to not having built a system in over 3 years (and not staying current with trends over that span).
Anyways, just thought the general idea of what type of price someone was looking at for a full system build to get up and running (OS included) on recent US market prices would be helpful. (only thing not shown is speakers, as I've had my surround set since about 2002). Prices fluctuate, but if you have any amount of patience you can get better prices on certain parts.
My build is closest to the Excellent build sheet. GPU is a little lower than those used in that build, but that was a deliberate choice and the 660/OC works fine. I want to wait to see what comes out next.
While my degree is in Computer Science Engineering, I don't work in the field any longer and got out of touch with some things over the years, but this thread and my build have re-ignited the enthusiast portion in me. It's fun to play with and tinker again.
I'm likely to replace all case fans to get rid of sleeve bearing fans, and also might switch to closed loop CPU cooling just for fun/design aesthetics. It's hard to say the 212 Evo doesn't do a good job (it's quite good really).
Props to OP and collaborators on all the info.
Anyways, just thought the general idea of what type of price someone was looking at for a full system build to get up and running (OS included) on recent US market prices would be helpful. (only thing not shown is speakers, as I've had my surround set since about 2002). Prices fluctuate, but if you have any amount of patience you can get better prices on certain parts.
My build is closest to the Excellent build sheet. GPU is a little lower than those used in that build, but that was a deliberate choice and the 660/OC works fine. I want to wait to see what comes out next.
While my degree is in Computer Science Engineering, I don't work in the field any longer and got out of touch with some things over the years, but this thread and my build have re-ignited the enthusiast portion in me. It's fun to play with and tinker again.
I'm likely to replace all case fans to get rid of sleeve bearing fans, and also might switch to closed loop CPU cooling just for fun/design aesthetics. It's hard to say the 212 Evo doesn't do a good job (it's quite good really).
Props to OP and collaborators on all the info.
RumblingRosco
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Any speculation/rumors about when the next wave of GPUs will be launching? My 560 Ti has been fine, but 1 GB of RAM even on 1080P has me nervous with some newer games coming out. As a rule of thumb, I never upgrade a PC component that is within 1 generation of each other (so, I'm basically skipping the 600 series/AMD equivalent and waiting for 700 series), so this info is somewhat pertinent to me!
The Teachinator
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This is cool. Almost bought a Titan. The price is just too ridiculous right now. Would this replace the 680 price wise?
The only virus protection you need is common sense, in my opinion
Nobody knows for sure, but it looks no new cards till 2014 (besides the titan le)
I thought I'd share my build pricing experience since I heavily used the information from this thread due to not having built a system in over 3 years (and not staying current with trends over that span).
Anyways, just thought the general idea of what type of price someone was looking at for a full system build to get up and running (OS included) on recent US market prices would be helpful. (only thing not shown is speakers, as I've had my surround set since about 2002). Prices fluctuate, but if you have any amount of patience you can get better prices on certain parts.
My build is closest to the Excellent build sheet. GPU is a little lower than those used in that build, but that was a deliberate choice and the 660/OC works fine. I want to wait to see what comes out next.
While my degree is in Computer Science Engineering, I don't work in the field any longer and got out of touch with some things over the years, but this thread and my build have re-ignited the enthusiast portion in me. It's fun to play with and tinker again.
I'm likely to replace all case fans to get rid of sleeve bearing fans, and also might switch to closed loop CPU cooling just for fun/design aesthetics. It's hard to say the 212 Evo doesn't do a good job (it's quite good really).
Props to OP and collaborators on all the info.
I will never trust ASRock...
Gigabyte and ASUS always for me. Build quality is not something to compromise on.
Because their single threaded performance and per clock performance are vastly better than AMD. For heavy multi threaded apps (basically only media creation) AMD can offer better price/performance but for gaming and regular computer use Intel is way better.
Future proofing your PC for next-gen - Digital Foundry
Interrrresting
Pretty good read
Avalanche Studios said:
Interrrresting
Pretty good read
Infinite Justice
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Its as mkenyon said in a earlier discussion, AMD bet on multithreading last round and it didn't pan out as much as they had hoped (only a few PC games really take advantage of them iirc).
Now I wonder if it work out this time especially since the next-gen consoles have all AMD stuff and hence their philosophy.
Now I wonder if it work out this time especially since the next-gen consoles have all AMD stuff and hence their philosophy.
JetBlackPanda
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hey guys my brother in law wants a budget gaming PC for around $550 I put this together from the guide in this thread? anything I should add or change??!?! Any sales I don't know about?
this one comes to $560
this one comes to $560
Interestingly enough every ASUS board i've ever owned (actually almost every Asus device ive ever owned) has had to have been RMA'd for one reason or another. Every ASRock mobo i've owned however has worked fine. Different experiences for different people i guess but i actively avoid any ASUS computer parts now.
After changing all my fans around and trying different configurations found that my PSU fan was the loudest..... so I replaced it. Then I realized its a 135mm fan. Who uses a 135mm fan?!?! Nothing drilling can't fix!
Now my pump is the loudest thing in my case...... hmmmmm the battle continues.
Hero_of_the_Day
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N/M.
mastershake
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Any chance AMD releases a single GPU card to compete with Titan?
Rumored Titan 'lite' might be the perfect card until maxwell hits (depending on price)
Rumored Titan 'lite' might be the perfect card until maxwell hits (depending on price)
Not till 8000 series next year.
Same here. Replaced every damn fan in the system and I'm down to the pump being the loudest.
Hawk269
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DRAM frequency in BIOS is 1600 MHz, while in CPU-Z it's 800 MHz.
How do I change this?
EDIT:
NVM, apparently CPU-Z reports half the speed, while BIOS reports it all.
I should probably google before i post again
lmao. Yeah, Google/Bing can come in handy, but you are going through new PC excitement and I think most of us here don't mind the numerous posts for some stuff.
cartman414
Member
Nintendo's still sticking with IBM for their CPU.
But yeah, I wonder if Intel will bother responding by finally upping the stakes once again.
Fanless FTW!
Anyone here BTW who has a serious fanless rig? Seems really awesome not just with noise, but also dust.
With the way they're billing their upcoming 7990 as the fastest single slot gpu, I doubt it.
Hey I am buying new parts and doing a reformat..just to make sure..what important stuff should be back'd up? Especially gaming wise.
Also for dual channel memory...does it work like this if I get same speed but better memory in dual channel slot 1 than my not so great memory at slot 2..that be fine?
Also for dual channel memory...does it work like this if I get same speed but better memory in dual channel slot 1 than my not so great memory at slot 2..that be fine?
Infinite Justice
Member
In the OP there is a BenQ monitor recommended in the 120hz group. I'd say you're probably safe as long as the model has decent reviews out there.
killertofu
Member
I feel kind of bad having a great gaming PC and playing Age of Empires II 90 percent of the time.
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