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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP

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kennah

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Typing this from the CM QuickFirePro I just picked up. The MX Browns are louder than I thought they'd be, so I wonder how the other switches are.

Also can't wait to install the H100. Too bad it just plain wouldn't work in my Lian Li, maybe I'll run it externally.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Buying a new mouse this week - my rebranded Logitech Alienware "Tact-X" mouse can no longer single-click correctly. It's driving me insane. I've had the mouse for about three years now, so it's time to upgrade, anyway.

I use a G700 for work and love it, and I used a G9X and G9 before getting this here Tact-x. I've had a couple Razer mice (still have an Orochi), and I just hate the way they track. I don't know if it makes sense - but it just feels like no matter how hard I try, the cursor feels a tad floaty.

So, this week I'm heavily leaning (almost definitely) toward getting the G700s. But will just always use it wired.

However, everyone seems to praise the Sensei from Steelseries. Can anyone comment on its tracking versus Logitech and Razer?
It uses a better sensor than either of the others. G700 uses interpolation at a lot of the CPI settings.
 
Should a 6+2 PCI-e fit into an 8 pin extender? I had a bit of trouble fitting the +2 into it but that was because the shapes didn't match but I managed to get it to fit. It should work fine right? I just want to make sure so I am prepared for my 680 tomorrow :p
 

Dave_6

Member
Ok I have finally been able to play Bioshock Infinite, Crysis 3 (and some Portal 2) on my newly built PC and I feel much better. I still have a few issues namely the PC seems to power off when left alone; sleep mode issues or power save issues? I really don't know. I played Infinite for ~20 minutes earlier and went I finished and went back to the desktop, I had a window open and it asked me if I wanted to change the color scheme of Windows because my system was not performing well...?

Also I installed MSI Afterburner last night; how do I get it to run the on screen display in the upper left corner while I'm playing a game?
 

scogoth

Member
Should a 6+2 PCI-e fit into an 8 pin extender? I had a bit of trouble fitting the +2 into it but that was because the shapes didn't match but I managed to get it to fit. It should work fine right? I just want to make sure so I am prepared for my 680 tomorrow :p

If it doesn't fit don't force it. You most likely have an 8 pin EPS extension (the 8pin plug on the motherboard for CPU power) which is not the same as an 8pin GPU extension. Buy a proper extender or plug the 6+2 directly into the GPU.
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
It uses a better sensor than either of the others. G700 uses interpolation at a lot of the CPI settings.

I trust your recommendations, so I just made a quick trip to the good ol' Best Buy.

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First impressions are:

The shell feels a little cheap - not what I was expecting.

The LEDs are actually pretty nice looking.

Braided cord is the norm nowadays, but looks pretty nice and is a tight weave.

Mouse is bigger than I was expecting - but that's a good thing - I have large hands.

A big strange going back to an ambidextrous mouse after all these years.

Tracking is, indeed, pretty smooth. Exactly what I was looking for - way less "jittery" than Razer. However, its default speed is a bit fast for me - time to dive into the software.
 
If it doesn't fit don't force it. You most likely have an 8 pin EPS extension (the 8pin plug on the motherboard for CPU power) which is not the same as an 8pin GPU extension. Buy a proper extender or plug the 6+2 directly into the GPU.

Bollocks your right I just wasted a load of money. I didn't read what it was for.
 

mhayze

Member
Anyone have experience with the Logitech M905?
logitech-m905.jpg


Looking to replace my M310 (bundled with the MK520), because it absolutely sucks. It has trouble picking up surfaces until I used my Wacom as a mousepad which worked alright. It's still very jittery if I try to draw a straight line even with a ruler. The main appeal I had with the M905 is with the any surface part which I hope would improve traction.

I'll be using this mostly for gaming and yes I'd rather use wireless. I also need the sidebuttons to be programmed as PTT key.

This is not a good gaming mouse. Quite a few complaints about lag. All logitech mice with the 'universal adapter' are bad gaming mice. Only a few wireless mice (including one by logitech) are OK gaming mice.
 
Hi!
I'm in the market for a new GPU. I currently have a GeForce 560 Ti which is slowly but surely dying (the fan seems to be broken since it makes a ton more noise than it used to and my PC crashes due to the GPU from time to time) and I want to switch it out.

My price range is about 200-250€ (I can go a little higher maybe) and I've done a bit of research, but now I'm kinda stuck. I've looked at the GTX 660 Ti, the AMD 7870 and I just found that the 7950 starts at around 270€ which I'm still okay with paying if the performance increase is significant in some way. Then there's all the weird editions (7870 GHz edition, 7950 Boost, 7870 XT) which confuses me.

I don't really have any preference for either AMD or Nvidia, I used to prefer Nvidia because their Linux support was better (as far as proprietary drivers go) but from what I've heard AMD have caught up a little.

edit Since it might be helpful, the rest of my PC's specs:
Intel Core i5 2500k
8 GHz RAM
Crucial M4 SSD
650W PSU
 

The Light

Member
If i were to build a htpc for the bedroom to watch movies and to do some gaming would a trinity apu get too hot in those media center cases that are on newegg?
 
Should I buy a 7950 instead of a 7970? Will I get similar performance for a cheaper cost and will it be a sustainable choice for potential to upgrade in the future? I'll be buying Haswell for my build.
 

Ken

Member
Not sure if this is the right place for non-gaming stuff but:

Your Current Specs: Only had a laptop with i7, A 6990m GPU, and 8 GB RAM I think. Looking to replace it.
Budget: Around $1000, preferably. US Territory.
Main Use: Mainly doing 2D art on photoshop (5) and general usage (4)with very light gaming (2) (League of Legends, Skullgirls in the future).
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or higher.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run: Adobe Photoshop CS5
When will you build?: I can wait a few months.
Will you be overclocking?: No.

Mainly just want something that runs Photoshop well. Gaming isn't a top priority since I find myself doing it less and less nowadays.
 

Ken

Member
Do any of the sites ship internationally?

Apparently TigerDirect and maybe BestBuy can ship to me. Are those reliable?
 

M3z_

Member
I've never had a problem with Tiger Direct. I tend to use them over Newegg when I can just because they don't charge tax in CA. However I don't know what they are like for international shipping, and I have never received a dead/faulty product from them so I don't have experience with how they handle things when they go wrong.
 

Ken

Member
It would help if we knew where you were?

Guam.

The local stores here don't have a wide range of parts to pick from. They have some pre-built desktops but I'd have to walk in and get a flyer to know their specs and price. I may be going to the States in a few months but only for a few weeks; tossed around the idea of ordering then but faulty parts and it being my first PC I attempt to build made me hesitant.
 

iavi

Member
This is not a good gaming mouse. Quite a few complaints about lag. All logitech mice with the 'universal adapter' are bad gaming mice. Only a few wireless mice (including one by logitech) are OK gaming mice.

Can you actually point me towards a good wireless mouse for gaming? My comfy couch gaming is a little lacking when having to be tethered to where the machine is anytime a config box opens up.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Can you actually point me towards a good wireless mouse for gaming? My comfy couch gaming is a little lacking when having to be tethered to where the machine is anytime a config box opens up.
Nothing exists. G700 is oft recommended but I find it to have annoying lag. Battery life is bad too. But it's the best.
 

scogoth

Member
Guam.

The local stores here don't have a wide range of parts to pick from. They have some pre-built desktops but I'd have to walk in and get a flyer to know their specs and price. I may be going to the States in a few months but only for a few weeks; tossed around the idea of ordering then but faulty parts and it being my first PC I attempt to build made me hesitant.

SoCal probably.

I do beleive there are some forwarding services for Guam but that might be a hassle. Have you looked at any Taiwanese sites? Not sure if they do much business in Guam but might be worth a look.
 

Demon Ice

Banned
Should I buy a 7950 instead of a 7970? Will I get similar performance for a cheaper cost and will it be a sustainable choice for potential to upgrade in the future? I'll be buying Haswell for my build.

How much VRAM is on the 7950? The 7970 is a good bit faster and it has 3 GB of VRAM on a wide 384 bit bus, which is great.

Edit: If you're comfortable with overclocking and you can get a 3 GB 7950 you will most likely be able to OC it to match a 7970's (stock) performance. But the 7970 is also a great overclocker. Comparing both at stock speeds, it seems the 7970 is about 15 - 20% faster than the 7950.
 
So, my old CPU PSU seems fried...I was thinking of getting a new PC anyway. I can't build on my own so looking at AVADirect. What do you guys think about:

DESKTOP PC Core™ i5 / i7 Z77 2-way SLI® / CrossFireX™ Performance Custom Computer System $1237.46 $1237.46
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1) Mid-Tower Case, ATX, No PSU, SECC/Plastic
SEASONIC M12II-750 Bronze 750W Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 80 PLUS® Bronze, 24-pin ATX12V 2x EPS12V, 4x 8/6-pin PCIe, Retail
ASUS P8Z77-V LK, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-2400 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 3Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 6Gb/s /2, DP + HDMI + DVI + VGA, USB 3.0 /6, HDA, GbLAN, ATX, Retail
INTEL Core™ i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4 - 3.8GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 6MB L3 Cache, DDR3-1600, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST VT-x XD, Retail
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, Socket 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum
CORSAIR 8GB (2 x 4GB) Vengeance™ LP PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD, GeForce® GTX 670 980MHz, 2GB GDDR5 6008MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI + HDMI + DP, Retail
WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB WD Caviar® Blue™ (WD10EZEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB cache, OEM
RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
ASUS DRW-24B1ST Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
NONE No Operating System (Choose OS or subject to Limited Support)
WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)

I have a Samsung SSD on my current PC that I can plug in
 
This is not a good gaming mouse. Quite a few complaints about lag. All logitech mice with the 'universal adapter' are bad gaming mice. Only a few wireless mice (including one by logitech) are OK gaming mice.

Bummer. :/ I guess I'll have to go wired, but keep my wireless for casual stuff. I'm looking at Logitech's gaming mice lineup and not really feeling it. I'm more of a claw grip rather than palm grip.
<G500 - eh
G500 - very ugly
G600 - don't need all the buttons
G9x - looks big/noisy; is it usable without the shell?

I'm not hearing a lot of great things about Razer, though I read their pads are actually nice. Their products still strikes me as being expensive mainly due to marketing.

I was also looking at the Corsair M60, which has a sniper button that would be perfect as PTT.
 

xJavonta

Banned
hey guys what do you think about amds cheaper quadcores, versus i3 now that games will be moving towards more cores and both next consoles having amds?
I have an i3. Honestly, I'd just wait until Haswell releases but if you need it now go with the i3 I'd say. Mine has been a little trooper for the past year and a half. I was planning on upgrading a few months after I got it but I really didn't even need to. It's handled everything flawlessly.
 

AndyBNV

Nvidia
I was also looking at the Corsair M60, which has a sniper button that would be perfect as PTT.

There's a newer version called M65 that fixes a few of the issues present on the M60. Or you can go for the M95 which has a ton of buttons and is classified as a MMO/RTS mouse.
 
Hello! I'm in the market for a new PC, and since I have been a mac user for the longest time I'm in dire need of advice.

Current specs: iMac early '08, core2Duo, 8800GS. Went poof after a thunderstorm while I was away.
Price range: around 700 euros (Italy)
Use: Gaming, video recording-streaming, and some video editing. I don't plan to overclock.
Monitor: I need a new monitor as well. My iMac was 1920x1200, but 1080p is more than enough for me.
Programs that have to run well: Video recording software, and video editing software like adobe premiere.
When will you build?: I don't have immediate necessity for a new PC, but at the same time I don't feel comfortable waiting for Q3/Q4 for new parts, especially since I don't really know if there's going to be something for my price range.
PS: I never built a PC, so I need to know if there are hidden costs.

After some research, I found this site called eprice.it . Looks a bit like an Italian version of newegg, lots of parts on sale for 100&#8364; less for CPUs and GPUs.

Here's what I came up with:
CPU: AMD FX 8350 piledriver (191&#8364; down from 262&#8364;. The i5 is at 214&#8364; but it looks like its worse for video recording...?)
GPU: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (181&#8364;, down from 358&#8364;, which is crazy...?)
Motherboard: ASROCK - Motherboard Z77 Pro 4 socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel Z77 ATX (101&#8364;, down from 130&#8364;)
Storage: WESTERN DIGITAL - WD Blue 1 TB Sata III 6 Gb / s 3.5" Buffer 64 MB 7200 RPM (63&#8364;, down from 96&#8364;)
Power Supply: CORSAIR - 600 Watt Serie CX CX600 - ATX 80 Plus Bronze (67&#8364;, down from 98&#8364;)
RAM: G.SKILL - Dimm Ares 8 Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600 Mhz CL9 Non-ECC (61&#8364;, down from 77&#8364;)
Case: http://www.eprice.it/case-COOLERMASTER/d-4718470 (37&#8364;, down from 51&#8364;. there's probably something better around though)

Total: around 712&#8364;, sans screen. I did some research and the site seems trusted. Feel free to add it to the OP.

Do I need a heatsink? Or anything else?
 

Whooter

Member
Hello! I'm in the market for a new PC, and since I have been a mac user for the longest time I'm in dire need of advice.

Current specs: iMac early '08, core2Duo, 8800GS. Went poof after a thunderstorm while I was away.
Price range: around 700 euros (Italy)
Use: Gaming, video recording-streaming, and some video editing. I don't plan to overclock.
Monitor: I need a new monitor as well. My iMac was 1920x1200, but 1080p is more than enough for me.
Programs that have to run well: Video recording software, and video editing software like adobe premiere.
When will you build?: I don't have immediate necessity for a new PC, but at the same time I don't feel comfortable waiting for Q3/Q4 for new parts, especially since I don't really know if there's going to be something for my price range.
PS: I never built a PC, so I need to know if there are hidden costs.

After some research, I found this site called eprice.it . Looks a bit like an Italian version of newegg, lots of parts on sale for 100€ less for CPUs and GPUs.

Here's what I came up with:
CPU: AMD FX 8350 piledriver (191€ down from 262€. The i5 is at 214€ but it looks like its worse for video recording...?)
GPU: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (181€, down from 358€, which is crazy...?)
Motherboard: ASROCK - Motherboard Z77 Pro 4 socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel Z77 ATX (101€, down from 130€)
Storage: WESTERN DIGITAL - WD Blue 1 TB Sata III 6 Gb / s 3.5" Buffer 64 MB 7200 RPM (63€, down from 96€)
Power Supply: CORSAIR - 600 Watt Serie CX CX600 - ATX 80 Plus Bronze (67€, down from 98€)
RAM: G.SKILL - Dimm Ares 8 Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600 Mhz CL9 Non-ECC (61€, down from 77€)
Case: http://www.eprice.it/case-COOLERMASTER/d-4718470 (37€, down from 51€. there's probably something better around though)

Total: around 712€, sans screen. I did some research and the site seems trusted. Feel free to add it to the OP.

Do I need a heatsink? Or anything else?

Right off the bat I can say that CPU won't fit in that motherboard. You either need to change to an Intel 1155 CPU (recommended) or to an AM3+ socket motherboard.
 

Anton668

Member
so... um... funny thing happened over the weekend...

My brother in law comes over and asks if I will take a look at his computer
Long story short, kids pretty much messed it up.
Ya know it kinda bad when you open a browser window and half the screen is taken up with toolbar add ons.....
went through and deleted everything I didnt like the looks of and ran malware and ccleaner.
Runs much better now.
Anyway... next day he asks if I will look at a computer for a coworker of his, older gentleman prollly around 60ish. (and prolly spends too much time hitting the porn sites)
Got it yesterday(tower only).... and.... damn....

EMachines T1090
Microsoft Windows XP Preinstalled
900Mhz Intel Celeron Processor
128MB SyncDRAM
CD-ROM 48X Max CD Drive
20GB Hard Drive Ultra DMA/66
3D AGP Graphics Intel Direct AGP
56K Data/Fax Modem ITU V.92 ready
Mfg Date: 2001
only 1 working USB port left on the machine

Fired it up and first thing I get is the "Your copy of windows may not be legitimate"
And to add to the fun, my old keyboard/mice have died long ago and what I have here now do not register on it.
He also has no discs for it and my copy of XP somehow got scratched to hell...
So now im waiting here to see if I can get his KB/mouse to even do anything.
One thing I have learned is I need to go get a crap KB/mouse with PS/2 plugs to keep around just in case.
Also, Can I d/l XP ISO and use that with whatever key is on a machine or were XP copys keylocked? I forget.
 

kennah

Member
Xp was way worse about key locking than 7 is. Ugh. But the particular version you are looking for might not be hard to find/there are reconstructed isos that contain all versions of xp on a single disc, you just select which flavour you install on boot.
 

kharma45

Member
I am too old to understand how to use Reddit

The comment system is a mess so proper discussion is hard to follow. Plus downvoting can be a pain too, I posted a thing about not going Crossfire using the FCAT data and I was told that was wrong and was downvoted so no one could see my post.

Hello! I'm in the market for a new PC, and since I have been a mac user for the longest time I'm in dire need of advice.

Current specs: iMac early '08, core2Duo, 8800GS. Went poof after a thunderstorm while I was away.
Price range: around 700 euros (Italy)
Use: Gaming, video recording-streaming, and some video editing. I don't plan to overclock.
Monitor: I need a new monitor as well. My iMac was 1920x1200, but 1080p is more than enough for me.
Programs that have to run well: Video recording software, and video editing software like adobe premiere.
When will you build?: I don't have immediate necessity for a new PC, but at the same time I don't feel comfortable waiting for Q3/Q4 for new parts, especially since I don't really know if there's going to be something for my price range.
PS: I never built a PC, so I need to know if there are hidden costs.

After some research, I found this site called eprice.it . Looks a bit like an Italian version of newegg, lots of parts on sale for 100&#8364; less for CPUs and GPUs.

Here's what I came up with:
CPU: AMD FX 8350 piledriver (191&#8364; down from 262&#8364;. The i5 is at 214&#8364; but it looks like its worse for video recording...?)
GPU: Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (181&#8364;, down from 358&#8364;, which is crazy...?)
Motherboard: ASROCK - Motherboard Z77 Pro 4 socket LGA 1155 chipset Intel Z77 ATX (101&#8364;, down from 130&#8364;)
Storage: WESTERN DIGITAL - WD Blue 1 TB Sata III 6 Gb / s 3.5" Buffer 64 MB 7200 RPM (63&#8364;, down from 96&#8364;)
Power Supply: CORSAIR - 600 Watt Serie CX CX600 - ATX 80 Plus Bronze (67&#8364;, down from 98&#8364;)
RAM: G.SKILL - Dimm Ares 8 Gb (2x4Gb) ddr3 1600 Mhz CL9 Non-ECC (61&#8364;, down from 77&#8364;)
Case: http://www.eprice.it/case-COOLERMASTER/d-4718470 (37&#8364;, down from 51&#8364;. there's probably something better around though)

Total: around 712&#8364;, sans screen. I did some research and the site seems trusted. Feel free to add it to the OP.

Do I need a heatsink? Or anything else?

As has been said, you need an AM3+ mobo for that CPU. I'd also avoid the CX 600, go for something more quality like an XFX, Be Quiet or a Seasonic.
 
The comment system is a mess so proper discussion is hard to follow. Plus downvoting can be a pain too, I posted a thing about not going Crossfire using the FCAT data and I was told that was wrong and was downvoted so no one could see my post.



As has been said, you need an AM3+ mobo for that CPU. I'd also avoid the CX 600, go for something more quality like an XFX, Be Quiet or a Seasonic.
something like this? http://www.eprice.it/alimentatori-XFX/d-3602682
And I may go intel after all, even if it mean spending some 20 bucks more.
 

scogoth

Member
The comment system is a mess so proper discussion is hard to follow. Plus downvoting can be a pain too, I posted a thing about not going Crossfire using the FCAT data and I was told that was wrong and was downvoted so no one could see my post.

You were wrong to go to reddit. Reddit is about what is popular not what is true and not listening to proof is popular. Welcome back
 

brentech

Member
Sold my old 2009 system for just over $200 on ebay. Monitor which was a 1440x900 sold for $30. glad to just get them moved out of the house.

Unfortunately, I think my AIO printer is dead now. So I gotta try to find something. If anything I should probably be happy that we had an HP printer actually last 4 years. Just hate printers. I almost never use the damn thing.
 

kharma45

Member
something like this? http://www.eprice.it/alimentatori-XFX/d-3602682
And I may go intel after all, even if it mean spending some 20 bucks more.

Yep exactly like that. That range of XFX models is just the Seasonic S12II inside.

As for going Intel, the 3570K is the better CPU but the AMD 8350 is perfectly good if you want it instead.

You were wrong to go to reddit. Reddit is about what is popular not what is true and not listening to proof is popular. Welcome back

I had nowhere else to go ;_;
 
Yep exactly like that. That range of XFX models is just the Seasonic S12II inside.

As for going Intel, the 3570K is the better CPU but the AMD 8350 is perfectly good if you want it instead.
Alrighty, I may order these parts today, since I get a good 70 bucks discount for the i5. Will be using the ASRock Z77 Pro4 with it. Thanks for the help, I almost made a 100€ mistake :p
 

kharma45

Member
If you're getting a 3570K with that ASRock look into a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler to overclock the CPU. Also, bump it to a Z77 Extreme 4 if you've the wiggle room in your budget, bit better for overclocking. If you can't don't worry too much.
 
If you're getting a 3570K with that ASRock look into a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler to overclock the CPU. Also, bump it to a Z77 Extreme 4 if you've the wiggle room in your budget, bit better for overclocking. If you can't don't worry too much.

I may cave in for the extreme 4, but I think ill wait a bit for the CPU cooler till I have some extra cash. I'm not in a hurry to attempt to melt my future PC :p
 

mkenyon

Banned
Bummer. :/ I guess I'll have to go wired, but keep my wireless for casual stuff. I'm looking at Logitech's gaming mice lineup and not really feeling it. I'm more of a claw grip rather than palm grip.
<G500 - eh
G500 - very ugly
G600 - don't need all the buttons
G9x - looks big/noisy; is it usable without the shell?

I'm not hearing a lot of great things about Razer, though I read their pads are actually nice. Their products still strikes me as being expensive mainly due to marketing.

I was also looking at the Corsair M60, which has a sniper button that would be perfect as PTT.
I used the button for PTT too, and it was perfect for that. My thoughts on the M65:
While at Fry's a week ago, I picked up the Corsair M65 for $40 on a whim. It's pretty, so it got me there.

Pros

-Avago ADNS9800 Sensor, it's the best out there.
-Fit and finish - best looking and constructed mouse I've ever used.
-Comfort - extremely comfortable to use for an extended period.
-Software that allows for rebinding of all the buttons as well as user defined DPI settings that you can select with the lower middle mouse buttons.
-Adjustable weight
Cons

-RMB and LMB are way too sensitive, taking almost no force to depress.
-Native acceleration above and beyond the standard 9500/9800 issue, and there was no option for removing it in the software.
-Can be a bit bulky for those preferring smaller mice.​

A bit more depth

It's a very well built mouse with some random issues that prevent me from suggesting it over the Sensei, but there can be an instance where it is recommended. Mainly, if you have big hands.

The RMB and LMB being so easy to depress actually had me laying my fingers straight over the buttons and depressing them with my knuckle to prevent accidental clicking. This was not something I was doing consciously either.

The built in acceleration was way too heavy. Even at 800 CPI, I would be overshooting dramatically on whips in Warsow and Quake Live. Turning down the CPI further did not alleviate the issue either.​

Conclusion

Sensei still king.​
 

kennah

Member
God this hobby is a sickness.


Put an offer in on a 2600K, Gigabyte board, SG05 and RAM.

I don't need it

Why would i do this?
 
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