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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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Whogie
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Thanks!
Damn that is sexy.
I hope gfx card vendors start making more small sized higher end cards like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121768
so they dont have to keep making mini-itx cases super long in 1 direction(like this or FT03 Mini) to fit the cards.
I dont see why the 760 couldnt be shrunk to half sized card like that 670.
Shipping on my Splash was $85 (but there were no taxes because of NAFTA thankfully).
I like the splash better, but this does look pretty cool. The Silver is nice.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Confusion Illusion
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For those of you running Geforce GTX 700 series cards, what drivers are you using? Just out of curiosity.
326.41 beta drivers since the other ones would keep crashing Dota 2.
Can anyone tell if these BSOD are Ram related or just not enough voltage?
http://i.imgur.com/h6jLkHX.png
http://i.imgur.com/h6jLkHX.png
1600Mhz is probably the XMP setting. So technically yes manually but its not the same as fiddling with the memory voltage and testing with stability, you just select XMP setting.
Intel has a list of motherboards and CPU's and RAM kits that they verify to work with the XMP setting.
mr stroke
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I am looking to upgrade my Motherboard and CPU while still keeping my old W8 install and HDD data.
Anyone know if this its possible for me just to swap out the mobo and CPU and re plug in the old HDD and have it work just like my old PC? Or would this require a brand new install of Windows, drivers, etc....
Anyone know if this its possible for me just to swap out the mobo and CPU and re plug in the old HDD and have it work just like my old PC? Or would this require a brand new install of Windows, drivers, etc....
Eaten By A Grue
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Welcome to next gen.
KDash31987
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What can you guys tell me about Diamond brand graphics cards? I ordered a Diamond Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 a bit ago, but then I found an XFX brand version for about the same price (though with DDR3 instead, but otherwise basically the same). I've been reading not so good things about Diamond, so I'm thinking about cancelling my order and going with XFX instead (which is a brand I trust).
Like I mentioned in my other posts earlier, I don't game on PC much, so I don't need anything too powerful...but I certainly don't want something that might break easily.
Like I mentioned in my other posts earlier, I don't game on PC much, so I don't need anything too powerful...but I certainly don't want something that might break easily.
Visualante2
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Question for those who are green. When buying a new gaming PC (motherboard, cpu, ram at least) is it smarter to re-use the case and sell on any unwanted components as spares? I wonder if you would be better off just selling the whole thing complete to someone reduce overall waste.
Need to reformat. If you are antsy about it, that means you should have reformatted a long time ago
Both are meh. XFX goes cheap on some of their non-reference versions. As long as you buy reference though, it doesn't matter in the least as they are built to spec.
You get more money from parting out. It will become waste at one point though, you're just talking about kicking the proverbial can down the road.
Hey guys, I'm looking into building a new rig. I'll have about €600 to spend and I have no reusable parts except for an old monitor that I'll use until I can afford a new one later.
I want to play games like FF XIV at 60 FPS(I'll settle for medium settings, detail doesn't bother me that much)
Any Ideas? Thanks
I want to play games like FF XIV at 60 FPS(I'll settle for medium settings, detail doesn't bother me that much)
Any Ideas? Thanks
OP has builds in different price ranges. See how they compare to places you can buy from.
Ah yeah, sorry. Just saw the question part and started typing.
KDash31987
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I've read that Diamond reference cards are generally fine (though their costumer service isn't), but...how do I know for sure if it's a reference card or not?
PairOfFilthySocks
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Ok, updated build:
Case- NZXT Source 210
CPU- i5 3570K
Mobo- Gigabyte SKT-1155 Z77
RAM- 8GB low profile corsair vengeance
Cooler- Hyper 212 Evo
-So the PSU is the last thing I'm thinking about. I figure a BP550 plus would do the trick?
-Apparently OCing on that mobo tops out at ~4.4GHz, but I doubt I'd push it any further than 4.2
-I'm guessing I need thermal paste, since the 212 Evo doesn't appear to come with it
-Finally, considering it's a full-sized mobo, should I just go with normal-sized RAM, as opposed to low profile, keeping in mind I'll be sticking the 212 Evo in there?
Case- NZXT Source 210
CPU- i5 3570K
Mobo- Gigabyte SKT-1155 Z77
RAM- 8GB low profile corsair vengeance
Cooler- Hyper 212 Evo
-So the PSU is the last thing I'm thinking about. I figure a BP550 plus would do the trick?
-Apparently OCing on that mobo tops out at ~4.4GHz, but I doubt I'd push it any further than 4.2
-I'm guessing I need thermal paste, since the 212 Evo doesn't appear to come with it
-Finally, considering it's a full-sized mobo, should I just go with normal-sized RAM, as opposed to low profile, keeping in mind I'll be sticking the 212 Evo in there?
Get low profile RAM, otherwise the fan on the heatsink could hit it.
Hyper 212 comes with thermal paste
BP550 will be fine for pretty much any build
edit: You can get a G45 for £8 http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007JRGVUA/ and really it would be worth the £8 just for the reliability under overclocking and then push further later if you ever wanted. edit2: I am blind, £13 more
Eaten By A Grue
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I was going more for a framerate boost than a 1400p resolution.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Might be 'optimized for Haswell', as Haswell's Internal Memory Controller is really strong, allowing for higher clocks than on previous chips. They did something really similar with Ivy.
But, I've also heard rumblings from a friend that works at a custom pc shop that RAM prices are headed down over the next few months. Could be a result of that.
In either case, it doesn't really matter. Faster memory will give you an imperceptible difference in gaming performance.
But, I've also heard rumblings from a friend that works at a custom pc shop that RAM prices are headed down over the next few months. Could be a result of that.
In either case, it doesn't really matter. Faster memory will give you an imperceptible difference in gaming performance.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Odd. So, could I be looking at any sort of downside as a result of opting for the faster memory?
PairOfFilthySocks
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Super. One last thing before I pull the trigger on this stuff; any recommendations for a ~90GB SSD? 64 is a bit too small, 128 a bit too costly and I need something to tide me over until I get a big-ass HDD. Samsung doesn't seem to have this size range in their 840 range, though.
How much can you spend on it? £77.98? http://www.ballicom.co.uk/mz7te120b...e--120-gb--internal--25--sata600.p956032.html
http://www.ebuyer.com/266526-crucial-128gb-m4-ssd-ct128m4ssd2 £69.99?
maneil99
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Mine is Ivy but that still applies I guess. Thing is my temps are 5-7c worse at a lower vcore then my 212 +. At stock its within 4 c of my OCed 212 + at 1.28v/4.5ghz
PairOfFilthySocks
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I'm looking at the 840 120GB for £75 right now...it's pushing it a bit. I might just wait for a possible price drop like mkenyon said, I need to wait for the RAM to arrive in store in a week anyways.
The fan speed is based on CPU temp. Try making it consistent perhaps? Not enough case airflow mebbe?
1.28v isn't that much higher than stock, FWIW.
M4 at £69.99 is the better buy. Same price at Amazon too, but delivered within 2-4 weeks. Prices could go lower on the 840 basic if a store has excess stock, but outside of that SSDs don't really go cheap here. The best deal on a 120GB I could find was a Kingston at £65 and that was a while ago.
Why didnt you get the 24'' model? The ppi loss.
EVOs are newer and better and just launched. Waiting a little bit for some hands on impressions, but they should be replacing the 840 Pro's.
I'd say to buy this 7770:
$70 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
Comes with a game code of your choice (Sleeping Dogs, FC3, Deus Ex) to help offset your cost. I'd recommend it since it's basically twice as powerful, only a tiny bit more power hungry, and in your price point if you can swing the rebate. You can buy used 7770's straight for $80 off eBay as well.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?266589-The-OverClockers-BSOD-code-list
I'll add (having looked at these the past 3 days) that the 1A can crop up on Vcore as well so just max it and make sure it's not a limiting factor.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Aaaand ordered! All that's left is a powers supply and monitor. Thanks to Azulsky, Addnan, , mkenyon, kennah, kharma45, Anton668, Zaph, Jakfu, Kamakazie! and claviertekky for helping a clueless gaffer out. No doubt I'll be back to badger you all with questions again once I inevitably fail to put this shit together.
I've had a couple of bluescreens since I had this computer. The latest episode gives the following output from WhoCrashed:
On Fri 16/08/2013 15:49:18 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\081613-6286-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x75B80)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x403, 0xFFFFF680000B18A0, 0xB4000002D0AA8867, 0xFFFFF680008B18A0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred.
This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.
On Fri 16/08/2013 15:49:18 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: dxgmms1.sys (dxgmms1!VidMmInterface+0x23D6E)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x403, 0xFFFFF680000B18A0, 0xB4000002D0AA8867, 0xFFFFF680008B18A0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\dxgmms1.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: DirectX Graphics MMS
Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred.
This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
So it sounds like nVidia drivers are the culprit? Are there updated drivers to fix this? I'm on 320.49, Geforce Experience says this is up to date even though it's from July.
On Fri 16/08/2013 15:49:18 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\081613-6286-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x75B80)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x403, 0xFFFFF680000B18A0, 0xB4000002D0AA8867, 0xFFFFF680008B18A0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred.
This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.
On Fri 16/08/2013 15:49:18 GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: dxgmms1.sys (dxgmms1!VidMmInterface+0x23D6E)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x403, 0xFFFFF680000B18A0, 0xB4000002D0AA8867, 0xFFFFF680008B18A0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\dxgmms1.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: DirectX Graphics MMS
Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred.
This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
So it sounds like nVidia drivers are the culprit? Are there updated drivers to fix this? I'm on 320.49, Geforce Experience says this is up to date even though it's from July.
Run memtest 86+, check for errors, bump VCCIO / Memory voltage and check they are running at spec.
Are you overclocked?
No, not overclocked. CPU-Z seems to think the RAM is running at 666MHz, though the Asus motherboard utility claims it's running at twice that. I'll do a memtest86+ later. It'll be annoying if it's a memory problem as I'll have to send the memory back :/
DDR is double data rate so those numbers are correct.
Infinite Justice
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Gotta be more positive
but seriously that's what the thread is for, take full advantage. (I need to get back in here but Saltybets plus work
)Double Data Rate, just multiply that CPU-Z number by 2 to get the advertised number
I want to get into PC gaming, I need some GAF advice. Should I build my own or go with a pre-made system? I've never built a PC so I'm a bit nervous. Also how prevalent is the out of the box support for the Xbox 360 controller on PC titles? Is it a pain to deal with driver issues on specific titles on PC or does Steam take care of a lot of that with automatic updates? I don't want a shit PC that will run games poorly but I don't want to spend much more than $500 on it either.
So how do I set up a game to run at 120fps and anything under it drops it to 60fps? I can cap battlefield 3 at 120fps but having trouble with fps drops in Witcher 1...
Thank you.
Thank you.
Can I ask why you would want to do this? What if you render a game at 100fps, you want to throw away 40% of your performance?
Building your own is pretty simple nowadays. 360 support is right out of the box, most PC games auto detect it and give you actual 360 prompts.
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