Those six pin to 8 pin don't always work, especially if the powersupply isn't pushing enough power.
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Those six pin to 8 pin don't always work, especially if the powersupply isn't pushing enough power.
OP has links. Overclocking in the BIOS is the easy/safe way. Any other way is a lie and you should ignore them.
Sectorseven
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I'm confused.
Is all this flocking to AMD just hysteria or is there substance to it, or do we not know yet?
Is all this flocking to AMD just hysteria or is there substance to it, or do we not know yet?
People jumping without any evidence. Wait for things to settle down and let the people benchmark etc.
Yes, No, Yes.
You adjust voltage for stability and multiplier for clock speed. If the CPU overheats it will shut down automatically, if the voltage is too low it will just crash Windows. If you mess something up you can reset the bios settings without even booting the computer.
Google overclocking instructions for your motherboard and it will tell you what settings to modify and what they do. Then it's a matter of testing how stable the computer. Prime 95 is a common one, but for me KSP quickly told me 4.4 was unstable as it kept crashing
Yeah, FPS as a way to accurately measure performance is dead. Here's Crysis 3 for you though. (Thanks GAF for showing me the light on this)Try some newer games that are optimized for 8 cores.
The middle graph there shows the amount of time the game dips below 20 FPS. The bottom graph shows the amount of time the game dips below 60 FPS. This kind of data is what is hidden when you rely on FPS.
You can read more here..
You should also know, that despite being called an "8 core" chip, the FX-8350 is basically a quad core that happens to have each core split in half. In reality, it works like hyperthreading.
IPC is king with gaming, not threads.
You adjust voltage for stability and multiplier for clock speed. If the CPU overheats it will shut down automatically, if the voltage is too low it will just crash Windows. If you mess something up you can reset the bios settings without even booting the computer.
Google overclocking instructions for your motherboard and it will tell you what settings to modify and what they do. Then it's a matter of testing how stable the computer. Prime 95 is a common one, but for me KSP quickly told me 4.4 was unstable as it kept crashing
Yeah, I'm worried about having to mess about on the motherboard proper to reset it!
I've set my voltage to 1.2, and my CPU to 4.2, as that seems to be a common one. I remember 1.3v being too high for air cooling? I'll run Prime95 for a bit and see what happens.
1.3 is only too high if your temps get to high, otherwise 1.3 is within safe limits. Only issue is as you up voltage temps also rise. Just keep your eye on that.
Half way through replying and i got bsod, at only 60c... I've upped the voltage to 1.25 instead.
I remember I tried the gigabyte program to do it months ago and that set it to 1.3v and 4.5ghz, and everyone here freaked out and told me to get a fire extinguisher, so I stopped... Watchdogs specs is making me try again though
Edit: although CPU-z I'd reporting 1.272v for some reason
I remember I tried the gigabyte program to do it months ago and that set it to 1.3v and 4.5ghz, and everyone here freaked out and told me to get a fire extinguisher, so I stopped... Watchdogs specs is making me try again though
Edit: although CPU-z I'd reporting 1.272v for some reason
Felix Lighter
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That cooler is fine for OCing but I think your temps are a little high for that clock speed. Where is your voltage set?
I hit those temps with Prime95 with my i7 930 at 3.9Ghz and my voltage is set at 1.215v (I think that's a little lower than most are able to go voltage-wise though).
Erebus
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I'm currently stress-testing with Prime95 running at 4100MHz with 1.16Vcore. I can't go higher than that before I install a decent cooler.
What are C-States for? Does disabling them stop the CPU from stepping down the frequency when the system is idle? For example, CPU-Z usually reports 1600MHz when I'm sitting idle on the desktop but 4100MHz right now that Prime95 is running.
1.16 or 1.6? 1.6 is wayy too high.
Erebus
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My bad, I meant 1.16
Pjsprojects
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Even the Corsair GS psu only have two six pin not eight pin so whats the deal?
Budget is anything below $500 or so. I'd like to reach 60fps at 1080p in new games. What do you mean by timeline? When I need it? I'm not in a rush if that's what you are asking. Current powersupply is a 850 or 800w by corsair, silver certification on it iirc. Current cpu will be upgraded too, will probably get a i5 or i7.
Are there any cards by Nvidia that are similar to the 290 in that price range? One old game that I want to be able to play doesn't work on my 6950 with up-to-date drivers.
Crimsonclaw111
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I still don't know if a GTX760 4GB card or R9 280X will be better for me. From what I've read the 760 cannot use the 4GB effectively due to a lower memory bus (I think).
Well in any case my build should be done in the next two weeks, so I'll post pics of my very first build to GAF
Well in any case my build should be done in the next two weeks, so I'll post pics of my very first build to GAF
AIDA64 has been running for 2 hours now, but my temps haven't gone over 60c. Surely they should be going higher if the CPU is at 100% all this time? Or does it mean I'm safe to increase from 4.2 to 4.3?
Edit: Oh, I cancelled it, and decided to test FPU instead of CPU, and temps shot to 73c. I think we're in business now
Edit: Oh, I cancelled it, and decided to test FPU instead of CPU, and temps shot to 73c. I think we're in business now
I hate people who just go with the latest trend without any real knowledge of the subject. A statistics class should be mandatory in high school.
FPS is still a very valuable tool. It provides an average frame rate, the same thing as 1/frame latency (the thing every benchmark place includes now). The thing is, it's not the ONLY thing you need to consider. What you also want to look at is a histogram of the frame latency distribution. A 99th or 95th percentile frame latency only shows you a slice of this, and is just as incomplete a picture as FPS. Ultimately, FPS is a mean. A mean is a single value designed around condensing the data gained from a population into a single number. It's not about giving the whole story, it's about providing something quick to provide a general idea of what's going on. To get a really complete picture of the situation, you'll also want to look at how those frame latencies are distributed throughout time, so you can if your latencies at the edges of the distribution are due to one area or it's a persistent problem.
TL;DR: FPS is a valuable tool for providing a concise summary of a lot of data. It doesn't provide the whole story and that's OK.
FPS is still a very valuable tool. It provides an average frame rate, the same thing as 1/frame latency (the thing every benchmark place includes now). The thing is, it's not the ONLY thing you need to consider. What you also want to look at is a histogram of the frame latency distribution. A 99th or 95th percentile frame latency only shows you a slice of this, and is just as incomplete a picture as FPS. Ultimately, FPS is a mean. A mean is a single value designed around condensing the data gained from a population into a single number. It's not about giving the whole story, it's about providing something quick to provide a general idea of what's going on. To get a really complete picture of the situation, you'll also want to look at how those frame latencies are distributed throughout time, so you can if your latencies at the edges of the distribution are due to one area or it's a persistent problem.
TL;DR: FPS is a valuable tool for providing a concise summary of a lot of data. It doesn't provide the whole story and that's OK.
Ok, thanks for the advice. I might just get a 780 then. =)
theSlacker
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Friend got it and sent it back. Picture looked washed out no mater what we did to it. Only way we could make it look good was putting it on the movie or picture settings, then messing with the other settings, but both of those completely fucked the black levels.
Felix Lighter
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The 280X looks to be a 7970 GHz Edition rebranded and is priced at $300. The 7970 GE is currently being sold for around $350 so I think it's likely that the 7970 will drop in price. I think the 7950 doesn't have a lot of room to drop and it should out perform the 270X which is being sold for about the same price.
Protip - the $300 one is a rebadged 7970. The only 'new' cards are the 260, 290 and 290X (they are the only ones with the new sound chip)
batman2million
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I didn't mess with the voltage. I think it's still on auto.
Felix Lighter
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Don't leave it on auto. It overcompensates and increases the voltage beyond and sometimes way beyond what is necessary.
Frame smoothness is just as, if not more important that frame rate. FPS is an out of date tool that is useless in an era of when each second of data will contain 60 (or even 120 for some people) data points. If we were talking about economics you might have a point but we're talking about visual effects, or more specifically how our eyes and brains interpret light. This is nowhere close to the same as taking population, income, or medical stats.
batman2million
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How much should I put it on?
Pjsprojects
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Anyone heard of Aerocool PSU? I just paid fifty quid for a 650w 42amp single 12v rail that has both six pin and the eight pin pcie connectors that I need.
Could not find other brands with eight pin config.
Could not find other brands with eight pin config.
Unknown One
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That's for you to find out. Every CPU is different. Overclocking takes time because you got to test out if the voltage is stable. So you run Prime 95 or Intel Burn Test or Aida64 to test out the stability of the overclock.
Head of Vengarl
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Thanks for the tips guys. You were all a great help. Here's what I ended up ordering:
Just doing a follow-up post. Mostly everything works great; I can run most of my games (Dota 2, TF2, CS:GO, Smite) on max graphics with great FPS. The only real bummer so far is my Asus monitor which already has a permanently red pixel. -_-
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I'm pretty bummed. A couple of weeks ago my P8Z77-LX had an overloaded USB port. I had to send it in for RMA. In the meanwhile I bought a shitty little ASRock mATX board to get me through.
The P8 came back to me a few days ago so I put everything back together and couldn't get to post and none of the USB ports were powered. Tried to switch back to the ASRock so I could send the P8 back again and now I can't get to post with it either.
I've tried 1 memory stick, onboard video only, no sound card, clearing cmos, I'm kinda stuck now and have no idea what I should do. I would rather not go out and buy another board.
Anyone have any tips. This is only the 3rd or 4th system I've built so maybe I'm missing something simple. This whole experience this week makes me want to say fuck it and just get a ultrabook and spend my gaming time with Vita + PS4.
The P8 came back to me a few days ago so I put everything back together and couldn't get to post and none of the USB ports were powered. Tried to switch back to the ASRock so I could send the P8 back again and now I can't get to post with it either.
I've tried 1 memory stick, onboard video only, no sound card, clearing cmos, I'm kinda stuck now and have no idea what I should do. I would rather not go out and buy another board.
Anyone have any tips. This is only the 3rd or 4th system I've built so maybe I'm missing something simple. This whole experience this week makes me want to say fuck it and just get a ultrabook and spend my gaming time with Vita + PS4.
Felix Lighter
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Here's the guide I used when overclocking my i7 930 years ago. It explains a lot of the details so it can seem overwhelming but it's pretty simple. In that same thread are a lot of people's results as well.
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx...e&id=20081220191040237&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Spiritreaver
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So I've got a problem with my PC that I've had for about a year now.
Today we had a few power outages in my area and since getting power back my PC has been shutting down randomly while playing FFXIV. I thought it might be overheating, but temps are normal and I cleaned the case filters/fans.
It just shuts off, then I can't do anything with it for about a minute (it won't power up at all( then it will power on itself.
I'm guessing it's a PSU issue. There were no issues whatsoever before. I've got a Corsair TX750 V2.
Been searching around, and it's not an uncommon problem, guess I'll call Corsair tomorrow.
Today we had a few power outages in my area and since getting power back my PC has been shutting down randomly while playing FFXIV. I thought it might be overheating, but temps are normal and I cleaned the case filters/fans.
It just shuts off, then I can't do anything with it for about a minute (it won't power up at all( then it will power on itself.
I'm guessing it's a PSU issue. There were no issues whatsoever before. I've got a Corsair TX750 V2.
Been searching around, and it's not an uncommon problem, guess I'll call Corsair tomorrow.
Schweinehund
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You may remember me from "my cpu is running at 80 degrees Celsius" thread!
I have decided to order my new parts tonight from newegg. I used to have a 955 BE Phenom II processor, 3.4 ghz, upgraded to Haswell i-5 4670k and the MSI-G45 mobo, also getting a high tower. I think I'm good for the next 5 years, sitting on 8gb ram, 7950 Radeon HD (plan to crossfire down the road) and now this new mobo and cpu.
Thinking of making my old computer into a home entertainment center.
I have decided to order my new parts tonight from newegg. I used to have a 955 BE Phenom II processor, 3.4 ghz, upgraded to Haswell i-5 4670k and the MSI-G45 mobo, also getting a high tower
. I think I'm good for the next 5 years, sitting on 8gb ram, 7950 Radeon HD (plan to crossfire down the road) and now this new mobo and cpu.Thinking of making my old computer into a home entertainment center.
Jzero
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Lots of Power supplies have a whine.
Yup. Every single power supply I've tried does a buzzing sound when I run STALKER SoC. Enermax, Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic...multiple builds. Never figured that one out.
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