CrazedProfessional
Member
Guys, what's a good value for money case, I was looking at the Shinobi XL, thoughts?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
- Thread starter Hazaro
- Start date
- Status
fatigues_gasolini
Member
My 7950 died a few weeks ago, so my gaming pc died. I have since picked up a laptop for school and was hoping to convert my gaming pc into a media center pc. I have a power supply and hard drives. I was hoping for pc, mb, and video card suggestions. I am aiming to play games on my tv via hdmi at 1080p. the case would have to fit in my entertainment center, so more horizontal than vertical Any suggestions would be welcome!
TheRedSnifit
Member
(I've asked this in the laptop thread, but I need an answer *fast*, so I'm putting it here too)
Laptop GAF, I need help. I'm getting a laptop, and I'm looking at a Dell New Inspiron M531R, which I can get for $550 bucks. Will it be capable of running most games? Which games won't it be able to run? I'm not really concerned about maxing out graphics and such - as long as they function, I'm perfectly happy. My alternative is a Dell Inspiron 15, which I can get for $350.
Laptop GAF, I need help. I'm getting a laptop, and I'm looking at a Dell New Inspiron M531R, which I can get for $550 bucks. Will it be capable of running most games? Which games won't it be able to run? I'm not really concerned about maxing out graphics and such - as long as they function, I'm perfectly happy. My alternative is a Dell Inspiron 15, which I can get for $350.
BeekleMatter
Member
Looks like there are a bunch of variations in terms of hardware. Some models come with an integrated graphics, discrete, dual gpu and different processors. Which one exactly would you be picking up?
TheRedSnifit
Member
For the M531R (discounted from $730 to $550):
Processor
AMD Quad-Core A8-5545M Accelerated Processor
Operating System
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Memory
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz (4GBx1 + 2GBx1)
Hard Drive
750GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Display
15" LED Backlit Display with Truelife and HD resolution (1366x768)
Primary Battery
65 WHr, 6-Cell Battery (removable)
For the Inspiron 15 (discounted from $380 to $340):
Processor
Intel® Celeron® processor 1017U (2M Cache, 1.6 GHz)
Operating System
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Memory
4GB Single Channel DDR3L 1600MHz (4GBx1)
Hard Drive
320GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
Video Card
Intel® HD Graphics
Display
15.6 inch LED Backlit Display with Truelife and HD resolution (1366 x 768)
Looking at those, the M531R doesn't list a GPU, so I assume it's integrated with the processor - whether this is good or bad, I do not know. The M531R also uses an AMD CPU, which I hear is bad. I can also fit the Inspiron 15 with a 3rd Generation Intel® Core i3 Processor and a touch screen, if it matters.
I have the money for either one, so it's not a huge deal if I have to go with the M531R, but if there isn't mych difference between the two, I'd rather get the less expensive option.
BeekleMatter
Member
Do you have a link for the M531R? Integrated graphics is bad. It doesn't have a dedicated GPU, its just combined with the CPU and is just there for watching videos and stuff. Definitely not with gaming in mind.
What kind of games are you looking to play? Do you have a minimum FPS? What graphics settings?
Whoever said "AMD is bad" is a dork since there are many different types of processors and saying "oh and Intel is better than an amd" makes no sense because the Intel could be a 2 core p.o.s. and the amd could be a 4 core processor with all dem bells and whistles. It all depends.
TheRedSnifit
Member
I'd liiike to be able to run somewhat recent games, but if that's an impossibility then I'm fine with just running older games (ie FEAR 1, TF2, etc.). My standards are "playable": I'm perfectly happy running everything at minimum settings.
The page for the M531R is here:
http://www.dell.com/us/p/laptops#!everyday-laptops
Now that I look at the main page again, I'm seeing a laptop that didn't show up before. It costs the same ($550) and has a discrete GPU: http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-17-3721/pd?oc=fncwd229h7&model_id=inspiron-17-3721
And thanks for the hand-holding, man. I'm kind of helpless on my own
RMA the 7950 and get a replacement. Use your warranty.
I'm upgrading my PC.
From a AMD Phenom II 955 to a FX 8350
But I can't decide what graphic card I should buy. I currently have an AMD Sapphire HD6950 1GB and want to upgrade to:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 OC 2GB GDDR for 299
or
Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X 3GB GDDR5 for 279
I can buy a Sapphire R9 290 4GB GDDR5 Battlefield 4 Edition too for 355.
The only problem I have is that my Motherboard doesn't have PCi 3.0 support:
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Any advise?
From a AMD Phenom II 955 to a FX 8350
But I can't decide what graphic card I should buy. I currently have an AMD Sapphire HD6950 1GB and want to upgrade to:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 OC 2GB GDDR for 299
or
Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X 3GB GDDR5 for 279
I can buy a Sapphire R9 290 4GB GDDR5 Battlefield 4 Edition too for 355.
The only problem I have is that my Motherboard doesn't have PCi 3.0 support:
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Any advise?
PCIe 3 won't matter for any of those cards.
290 is the best card on the market for value and performance imo but without the non-ref coolers I can't recommend one, so it comes down to the 770 and 280X. I'd side with the 280X unless you want G-Sync and the other Nvidia niceties.
290 is the best card on the market for value and performance imo but without the non-ref coolers I can't recommend one, so it comes down to the 770 and 280X. I'd side with the 280X unless you want G-Sync and the other Nvidia niceties.
Ok thanks!! Just to complete my post: I play in 1080p, not higher.
Oh I see. How would you connect the CPU cooler fans if you had two? One in the CPU_FAN and another in SYS_FAN3/4? I tested the fans out and the CPU cooler fans are easily the reason why I feel my PC is a bit loud, it's running at full speed; the case fans quiet to me while adjusting the speeds using the fan controller. I'm just worried about the difference in air flow due to having the two CPU cooler fans are different speeds.Making this post from the PC
Do you have a CPU_OPT header on your motherboard, next to CPU_FAN? I guess you could connect the CPU fan to the case controller... Just make sure to monitor the temps if you put it in low.
As far as I know, CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT run at the same speeds at all times.
cyen
Member
Go for the 290, if you can stand the noise the performance is vastly superior to both. Pci 2.0 is compatible and you wont lose performance.
A question guys, i am putting a new pc together, with a Asus SaberTooth X79 and Intel Core i7-4820K. Will the next CPU that will be 14 nm fit on the mobo, or will they have a different socket ? Was thinking of buying now so i could buy and resell as the newest stuff comes out while everything has a warranty to sell for a good buck, to stay current.
SneakyStephan
Banned
wow that is a ridiculously expensive motherboard you are recommending there
you can knock 40-50 pounds off the price right away by going for a cheaper z87 mobo that still has all the features he'll ever need and then some
also man it feels good to see hdd prices having returned to normal at last
Is the Dell US U2312HM worth a look at $159? I know it's 23" but I don't think I'll really notice the difference between 16:9 and 16:10 seeing as how I've been on 5:4 for 3+ years
Primarily used for gaming (Dota 2, DayZ SA of late, CS:GO etc) and browsing/word processing.
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/pro....aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-2807
Primarily used for gaming (Dota 2, DayZ SA of late, CS:GO etc) and browsing/word processing.
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/pro....aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-2807
It's a pretty middle of the road priced motherboard, and it's a great price for what it offers.
I wouldn't drop down to a board as low priced as that, the cheapest I'd go is something like the MSI G45 Gaming or the Gigabyte D3H. Pity the Biostar boards have disappeared over here.
OCUK has the MSI TF4 280X for £220 for today only. 83 left, I've seen 12 go in the last hour or so
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-225-MS
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-225-MS
so my family helped me out a ton. basically threw money at me to buy computer parts.
was gonna get an i5 but turns out that microcenter is having some kinda in-store sale on chipsets.
i7 haswell chipsets are only $250 in-store
tomorrow, i begin building
was gonna get an i5 but turns out that microcenter is having some kinda in-store sale on chipsets.
i7 haswell chipsets are only $250 in-store
tomorrow, i begin building
Felix Lighter
Member
Litecoin miners.
Yeah, I have a CPU_OPT header next to CPU_FAN. Based on the manual, I think can adjust the speed through the voltage? It says "+12V /Speed Control" in Pin #2 whereas the CPU_FAN's Pin #2 says "+12V".
I won't put the case controller on low, I would keep it on medium. However I'm making a habit of checking the temperatures frequently. Idle temperature has been 25 C, haven't checked what temperature it would go up to when under load.
This is interesting...switching the fan controller to any other setting (high, medium, low) would cause my PC to restart. Does anyone know why this happens?
I just wanted to pop in since I just got a new monitor for Christmas and wow having a 2nd monitor is amazing! Having a view of the entire map while I'm playing Battlefield 4, being able to go on the internet while I'm playing a full screened game, not having to be stuck on a tab when I watch a YouTube video or Twitch stream, being able to see my iTunes window, etc; I can't go back to one monitor!
Piercedveil
Member
Speaking of dual monitors, what is the best software to use to manage everything? A few issues I'm having:
Any ideas?
- New Chrome windows always open on the display with a chrome window already open. Any way to make it always open on the primary monitor?
- Some games won't go fullscreen or are detecting the wrong monitor. My new monitor is 1080p while my old one is 1600 x 900. Now when I set the rendering resolution for DayZ (for example) on my new monitor, it says 1080p is over 100% rendering resolution, so it thinks I'm using my secondary for some reason.
Any ideas?
My previous post detailing what I'm building the PC for:
Here's my updated parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pLVO
First of all, is this everything I would need to do what I'm looking to do? I'm not super knowledgeble about the what parts of a computer are best for different things, so any help you guys can give me would be super appreciated.
Second, I'm really, really trying to keep this under $1K, and ideally I wanted originally to pay around $800. Is there anything I could replace with a cheaper alternative without sacrificing too much on quality?
Here's my updated parts list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2pLVO
First of all, is this everything I would need to do what I'm looking to do? I'm not super knowledgeble about the what parts of a computer are best for different things, so any help you guys can give me would be super appreciated.
Second, I'm really, really trying to keep this under $1K, and ideally I wanted originally to pay around $800. Is there anything I could replace with a cheaper alternative without sacrificing too much on quality?
What you could do is drop the video card for now and just use the onboard video for a bit.
As a bonus it would let you save up longer to get a 780 or another higher end card
Other than that you're going to be sacrificing on perf/eventually buying things twice.
Well that's not right. Your CPU fan, correct? What motherboard do you have?
I wonder if, when you change the controller, that stops the CPU fan for a second, and somehow the motherboard knows this and reboots as a safety measure? But then, if they're directly in to the controller, the PC shouldn't be able to read that.
Someone who's smarter than I can hopefully shed some light.
Nope, the case fans are only connected to the controller. CPU fans are connected directly to the motherboard, Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H, which is why I found it to be weird.
I'm trying to finish my first ever build, but I still can't decide on a motherboard. Which would you guys choose?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128594
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979
Leaning towards the Asus just because I've heard that they're more reliable. The MSI has Sound Blaster, but that's only for gaming, right? Other than gaming, I want to mess around with music production and recording. I don't know if that will make a difference.
If it'll help, here's what I purchased so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128594
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979
Leaning towards the Asus just because I've heard that they're more reliable. The MSI has Sound Blaster, but that's only for gaming, right? Other than gaming, I want to mess around with music production and recording. I don't know if that will make a difference.
If it'll help, here's what I purchased so far:
Wait, so when you change the fan speeds on the CASE fans, it restarts? I have the same motherboard/case as you, and (as far as I know, I plugged them in to the mobo about a day after) there were no issues.
A quick look at this thread suggests it might be an issue with your PC, and the 7v switch Fractal use.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Super budget build is a success so far. Memtest complete with no errors.
Heatsink on that XFX 7850 looks pretty dinky, but the case has good airflow and it's not going to be OC'd.
Now to get those rebates sent off before the end of the year, and get Windows on it.
Heatsink on that XFX 7850 looks pretty dinky, but the case has good airflow and it's not going to be OC'd.
Now to get those rebates sent off before the end of the year, and get Windows on it.
What you could do is drop the video card for now and just use the onboard video for a bit.
As a bonus it would let you save up longer to get a 780 or another higher end card
Other than that you're going to be sacrificing on perf/eventually buying things twice.
So I'd still be able to edit video and stuff like that without a graphics card?
Yeah, but it'll be slower than if you had a graphics card. And don't expect to play 3D games.
Yep. Renders will take a few hours longer. Games aren't amazing on the 4600 but some stuff is passable.
Dunno if it's the right thread to ask, but here I got:
I need to buy a new graphic card for my PC cause the old one is dying (No, it's not dust, I'm 101% sure) and having problems with a lot of games even at low settings.
This is my current PC:
I don't need a particularly powerful one, I just need it to be cheap and decent. I really don't know much about these stuff, so sorry if it's a dumb question.
I need to buy a new graphic card for my PC cause the old one is dying (No, it's not dust, I'm 101% sure) and having problems with a lot of games even at low settings.
This is my current PC:
I don't need a particularly powerful one, I just need it to be cheap and decent. I really don't know much about these stuff, so sorry if it's a dumb question.
Dunno if it's the right thread to ask, but here I got:
I need to buy a new graphic card for my PC cause the old one is dying (No, it's not dust, I'm 101% sure) and having problems with a lot of games even at low settings.
This is my current PC:
I don't need a particularly powerful one, I just need it to be cheap and decent. I really don't know much about these stuff, so sorry if it's a dumb question.
What PSU do you have?
Since audio seems to be important I'd grab a Gigabyte UD3H or the Biostar HiFi Z87X and bung in an Asus Xonar DGX for around $35.
... I don't know what it is and or how to see it. D:
ebullientprism
Member
I am trying to build a PC on a bit of a budget. Is an AMD 8320 an acceptable solution for the next few years as far as a processor is concerned?
It's not the best. Save more and go Intel, either the 3570K or the 4670K.
Open the side panel and take a photo of the label on it and show us.
Just_myles
Member
Ok GAF, I attempted to hash out what I need and cost. Looking for something on the cheap but, can get the job done roughly $500-$700. I went on my own and got something going.
What i'm working with.
What say you GAF, did I do alright?
What i'm working with.
What say you GAF, did I do alright?
Please don't get that PSU in the left column. Mobo in the right doesn't work with those chips.
PCPartPicker is great btw for stuff like this http://pcpartpicker.com/
Just_myles
Member
Thanks man,
PC part picker has a lot going on which is I opted to just do it bit by bit. So the Antec Power supply will work fine?
PC part picker has a lot going on which is I opted to just do it bit by bit. So the Antec Power supply will work fine?
Yep, changing the fan speed of the case fans using the case's fan controller restarts my PC. I think I'll take the time to connect all the fans to the motherboard and control the fan speeds from the BIOS instead. Just a minor problem, no big deal. Thanks for the responses
Cable management good enough? Pictures are from yesterday. Should I reroute the 24-pin connector from another opening or the way I have it doesn't really disrupt air flow? I don't like how the PCI-E cables connecting the GPU are, looks messy to me.
It's a fine unit. Going by that build on the left for top end money there is this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($160.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $675.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-25 20:20 EST-0500)
Wanting to spend less there is this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($160.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $570.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-12-25 20:21 EST-0500)
If you've a Microcenter nearby good savings on CPUs to be had.
Just_myles
Member
kharma45 said:
Thanks Kharma, yeah I was having trouble with the compatibility bits. I really just started picking at the best price.
Sir Abacus
Member
Cable management good enough? Pictures are from yesterday. Should I reroute the 24-pin connector from another opening or the way I have it doesn't really disrupt air flow? I don't like how the PCI-E cables connecting the GPU are, looks messy to me.
Am I seeing things or do you have the GPU plugged into the HDD molex connectors using an adapter?
That's bad mojo if you did. Your PSU should have proper cables.
PCP will help there as it automatically filters parts based on compatibility.
GPU wise if you're serious about gaming the lowest I'd go for is the 650 Ti Boost or the 7850. CPU wise you're best with an unlocked i5 and a Z series motherboard. It's not cheap though as you saw in that first build but the 4430 isn't bad at all if you're looking to save money. No real need for a sound card now either.
Sir Abacus
Member
Except for case compatibility. PCP refused to show me a 330R saying it was incompatible with the "EATX" Rampage IV Extreme despite the case would easily fit a 305mm motherboard.
- Status