Yep
And yeah, I realize something is wrong, but I have no clue what. I just popped the case and everything is plugged in properly. I'm going to try a fresh driver install and see if that helps.
"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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And yeah, I realize something is wrong, but I have no clue what. I just popped the case and everything is plugged in properly. I'm going to try a fresh driver install and see if that helps.
Try downloading the Intel chipset drivers. Something like Intel Device Manager... forgot what exactly it's called.
Did you not put any thermal paste on? or too much?
Just used the stock cooler without changing anything.
Ok, definitely seems like some sort of throttling is going on. I'd take off the heatsink/fan and redo that.
Hm. I mean, you installed it correctly, right? Like you made sure to push everything down hard enough and to lock it into place?
NickatNite
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Hi, I'm looking for a desktop that would be Primary use for Graphic Design work. I'm primary a console gamer, happy with my PS4 and older console's.
Your Current Specs: ASUS GH73 Laptop - 8GB - 500GB - i7 1.7GHz - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 - 17.3" screen
Budget: USA - No Higher than $750 for desktop and monitor. But if desktop comes around $650-700, I wouldn't mind going little more for a monitor.
Main Use: Graphic Design work , everyday web browsing , and some gaming.
Monitor Resolution: New Monitor, 1920 x 1080 , LED , 23 - 27 Screen Size. No more than $150. If I can run 2 monitors within my budget that would be great.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Adobe Suite Programs ( Ps, Ai, Id, Ae .... ) , 3ds Max , Cinema 4d.
For gaming - Red Orchestra 2 and The Forest. But once again I'm primary a console gamer.
Looking to reuse any parts?: No
When will you build?: So as Possible / Within a Month
Will you be overclocking?: No
Your Current Specs: ASUS GH73 Laptop - 8GB - 500GB - i7 1.7GHz - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 - 17.3" screen
Budget: USA - No Higher than $750 for desktop and monitor. But if desktop comes around $650-700, I wouldn't mind going little more for a monitor.
Main Use: Graphic Design work , everyday web browsing , and some gaming.
Monitor Resolution: New Monitor, 1920 x 1080 , LED , 23 - 27 Screen Size. No more than $150. If I can run 2 monitors within my budget that would be great.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Adobe Suite Programs ( Ps, Ai, Id, Ae .... ) , 3ds Max , Cinema 4d.
For gaming - Red Orchestra 2 and The Forest. But once again I'm primary a console gamer.
Looking to reuse any parts?: No
When will you build?: So as Possible / Within a Month
Will you be overclocking?: No
Yep, I've done this several times before and this didn't go any differently. So I'm stumped.
Nostremitus
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seems like a price error?
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?sdtid=7152512&EdpNo=7025816
corsair 4x4GB PC12800 for $85 after 15 off 100 coupon
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?sdtid=7152512&EdpNo=7025816
corsair 4x4GB PC12800 for $85 after 15 off 100 coupon
The "Good" build in the OP with an i5 and a slightly better GPU would probably hit your budget perfectly.
Hey guys, I have 2 WD green 4TB drives in an external enclosure connected to my desktop through USB 3.0 (which is an add on PCI USB 3.0 Card in my desktop)
Is there a way to disable the drives from going into standby/sleep mode every so often, cause it takes forever to spin up again when I want to access it.
My windows Power settings have always been set such that the HDDs are never turned off and USB Suspend is also always off.
Seems like this must be a hardware feature in the firmware of the Greens? I never had this problem when one of the same drives was connected to my PC via eSATA before though.
Any thoughts on how I can solve my problem and turn off this stupid sleep/standby/??headpark mode of the Green?
Thanks!
Is there a way to disable the drives from going into standby/sleep mode every so often, cause it takes forever to spin up again when I want to access it.
My windows Power settings have always been set such that the HDDs are never turned off and USB Suspend is also always off.
Seems like this must be a hardware feature in the firmware of the Greens? I never had this problem when one of the same drives was connected to my PC via eSATA before though.
Any thoughts on how I can solve my problem and turn off this stupid sleep/standby/??headpark mode of the Green?
Thanks!
Not without knowing why exactly it is too close. Cross reference it with product pictures to see what it's supposed to look like if you can't see any obvious damage to anything.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/haswell-e-i7-5820k-pci-express,27507.html
The 5820K is a good value proposition if you plan to single GPU only, barring x99 mobo and DDR4 premiums
The 5820K is a good value proposition if you plan to single GPU only, barring x99 mobo and DDR4 premiums
You can keep your case open and watch how your fan runs as you play a demanding game.
All 3 fans (2 case and 1 CPU) are running fine. But 90C seems awfully hot.
paperspace
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You could look into changing how your setup functions currently. Multi monitor stands would allow you to hinge the second monitor so the setup is like this:
Really rough idea, but I think you get the concept. You could even change the secondary monitor to be in portrait mode, which would also reduce the footprint.
I'm a big fan of 120Hz, so I will always advocate their use for PCs that are primarily designed for gaming.
I disagree with folks above. Depending on budget, you might consider holding out for Haswell-E to see how it does (~$350 6 core proc, $220 DDR4 memory, $200 motherboard), but a 4790K would give you a night and day boost in the games that you're unhappy with right now.
The 670 is still good though.
Thanks y'all. Any info regarding release dates for Haswell-E and GTX 800?
Then I think your CPU's heat spreader is not in good contact with your heatsink.
RazorbackDB
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That's really high for gaming, I would check the thermal paste, also check with the task manager if you have any process using the cpu or causing high cpu usage spikes while idle.
I checked this and there was nothing.
I suppose there's no way to check the thermal paste without pulling the heatsink off the chip, right? I wanted to avoid that. And watching the temps drop 30-40 degrees within 30 seconds of me closing the game makes me think I can't have applied it entirely wrong.
adamantypants
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The default clock speed for the 4790k is 4.0ghz and it looks like some are shipping with a stock 1.273 voltage. That's probably too high for the stock cooler. Even at stock settings mobos will further increase that voltage so it's not surprising you're getting hot. You have this beast of a processor, you're gonna need a beast of a cooler. Get at least the CM 212 from OP and let that processor do what it's meant to do.
Piercedveil
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I'm having some issues. My PC has completely frozen twice in the last few days (including tonight) and I noticed both times right before it happened that my task manager says my disk usage is around 100% yet it looks like nothing is really using it. My computer also just restarted itself completely while browsing a few moments ago.
Any ideas what the issue might be? Here's what my task manager looks like, and all I have open is this tab on Chrome.
EDIT: Windows 8, btw.
EDIT #2: All good now! Had to manually set my page file for some reason all of a sudden. It seems Windows was no longer handling it correctly.
Any ideas what the issue might be? Here's what my task manager looks like, and all I have open is this tab on Chrome.
EDIT: Windows 8, btw.
EDIT #2: All good now! Had to manually set my page file for some reason all of a sudden. It seems Windows was no longer handling it correctly.
IMACOMPUTA
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Are there any cool new mini itx cases ?
Hmm I just finished building this rig with an i7 4790k in it and everything seems to be working fine, except that the stock cooler I'm using for the cpu is a bit too noisy for my taste. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be this loud (I'm used to the hyper 212 on an i5 760 in my other computer and that one is definitely much less noisy) or if something is wrong.
Edit: I found the issue, the fan was hitting slightly one of the cables I hadn't moved completely away, silly me... It's working mike a charm now.
Edit: I found the issue, the fan was hitting slightly one of the cables I hadn't moved completely away, silly me... It's working mike a charm now.
did you make sure to put it to temp target limit and not power target limit in whatever OC/fan-control app you use? or are you still talking CPU?
I think it's good to do that.
Try to run AMD's clean uninstall utility (not sure if still available) to start from a clean slate.
Arren
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In light of my current PC displaying evident signs of an imminent death, I've been contemplating the purchase of a new system and let me state first of all that this thread has been immensely helpful in all of its iterations. Without all of the insight shared here, I'd have been entirely clueless as to where to even start, so my personal thanks to Hazaro and all the tech-savvy users here on Gaf for publically providing such information.
I'm now to the point where all the little tidbits and components are starting to click together, so I'd like to share with you my current idea for an optimal configuration in order to see if there's any suggestion or correction I might apply.
One important thing I'd like to underline is that this PC is intended to be a very powerful, mostly multimedia-oriented, generally all-rounder machine, also conceived with a strong attention to gaming. I do a lot of video editing and audio production work, so certain components have been chosen with those specific intentions in mind. Budget is not a problem at the moment, or at least I can say I've saved enough money in these past months to allow myself a very wide array of options. I also live in Italy, so certain products are not easily and readily available for me to order.
What I've chosen so far:
Phew, that was long! Well, thanks in advance for any help and opinion, as always much appreciated.
I'm now to the point where all the little tidbits and components are starting to click together, so I'd like to share with you my current idea for an optimal configuration in order to see if there's any suggestion or correction I might apply.
One important thing I'd like to underline is that this PC is intended to be a very powerful, mostly multimedia-oriented, generally all-rounder machine, also conceived with a strong attention to gaming. I do a lot of video editing and audio production work, so certain components have been chosen with those specific intentions in mind. Budget is not a problem at the moment, or at least I can say I've saved enough money in these past months to allow myself a very wide array of options. I also live in Italy, so certain products are not easily and readily available for me to order.
What I've chosen so far:
Phew, that was long! Well, thanks in advance for any help and opinion, as always much appreciated.
You pretty much nailed it. Some moderate - and careful - overclocking won't hurt durability, so make sure you do it. Blu-Ray drives need particular software to work, and I'm not sure the one you've chosen will have it included, so just be aware of that.
You could maybe consider going from a Cooler Master V750S to a 650, but if the 750 isn't much more expensive, then it's a good choice. The VS series are great PSUs.
You could maybe consider going from a Cooler Master V750S to a 650, but if the 750 isn't much more expensive, then it's a good choice. The VS series are great PSUs.
Seasonic G series 550W or Coolermaster V550S is enough.
Get 16Gb CL9 1600Mhz Ram. You may notice a small improvement with 2133Mhz CL10-11 but it's not worth the premium.
Jimmy Rustle
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I've been thinking of joining Team SLI, but I have a few questions that hopefully don't cause a problem:
I have a 6gb 780 with the ACX cooler, does anyone have experience with these in SLI?
I've heard that the top card tends significantly differ in temperature, since it sucks up all of the heat from the bottom card.
How about instead buying a reference card and putting that one on top and the ACX card on the bottom? Has anyone tried this set up?
Also, how would combining a 3gb card work with my 6gb card?
I have a Mid sized Define R4 with the stock front and back fans.
The obvious advice would be to wait for the 880s, but I really want to try and get a deal on a second 780 once the 880s release and prices drop, especially during the black friday/cyber Monday deals.
I have a 6gb 780 with the ACX cooler, does anyone have experience with these in SLI?
I've heard that the top card tends significantly differ in temperature, since it sucks up all of the heat from the bottom card.
How about instead buying a reference card and putting that one on top and the ACX card on the bottom? Has anyone tried this set up?
Also, how would combining a 3gb card work with my 6gb card?
I have a Mid sized Define R4 with the stock front and back fans.
The obvious advice would be to wait for the 880s, but I really want to try and get a deal on a second 780 once the 880s release and prices drop, especially during the black friday/cyber Monday deals.
This is CPU only, and I'm not over clocking or using any sort of temp/fan control app. Everything is stock.
dapperbandit
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Hi there. Been procrastinating big time about putting a PC together but getting a prospective build at a comfortable budget would help tip me over the edge into actually doing it.
I'll just fill out bits of the blurb I can answer right now.
I'm in the UK
My budget...I'd really prefer to keep it under £700
My main use will be gaming; I'm not particularly interested in emulation and I don't do any 3D modelling or video editing.
I'd want to do it before the end of October.
As for things I have to run... it's not the best example as I'm sure there will be more demanding things I'll want to play but I definitely want Civilization: Beyond Earth to run well.
Thanks
I'll just fill out bits of the blurb I can answer right now.
I'm in the UK
My budget...I'd really prefer to keep it under £700
My main use will be gaming; I'm not particularly interested in emulation and I don't do any 3D modelling or video editing.
I'd want to do it before the end of October.
As for things I have to run... it's not the best example as I'm sure there will be more demanding things I'll want to play but I definitely want Civilization: Beyond Earth to run well.
Thanks
Do you need mouse, keyboard, monitor? If so is that within the £700 budget? And are you able to buy Windows OS from the reddit software group (~£5)?
Overclocking?
Under the assumption you don't need a monitor:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.51 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.63 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£76.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.02 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card (£203.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£30.17 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: be quiet! 530W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £699.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 11:40 BST+0100
However if you're building in October this is all kind of moot, since new stuff might (might) have arrived.
And an ITX option, no overclocking.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£150.85 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£87.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.02 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.93 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£169.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£62.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£77.37 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £699.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 11:49 BST+0100
Scan.co.uk have this offer with the Gigabyte ITX board
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£150.85 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£87.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.02 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.93 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£169.92 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case (£62.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£77.37 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £699.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 11:49 BST+0100
Scan.co.uk have this offer with the Gigabyte ITX board
dapperbandit
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Sorry I knew I left something out.
I have a monitor but nothing else, no mouse or keyboard or OS. I've heard of buying windows keys from Reddit but now that you've asked if I'm able I'm not sure.
Also I don't really intend to overclock.
Thanks for this. I may build before October, it's just the latest date I'd like to have it finished by. I think I can get by without waiting for brand new stuff - on top of that it seems like a good excuse to put things off for a couple of months and I'd rather just bite the bullet and get it over with.
Ok assuming you dont need something extravagant for a keyboard and mouse:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£150.85 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.63 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£63.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£52.02 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card (£203.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£30.17 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£54.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £675.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-22 12:12 BST+0100
Taking the mATX route and no overclocking gives a bit of headroom for the KB&M and your OS from reddit.
To get the OS, get a reddit account, then contact a member on the softwareswap group to invoice you on paypal for the Win 8 key. Pay and he should send you the serial number. The serials are usually acquired by students who get them free from Uni (1 each). There is a lot of information in the softwareswap group, so read before proceeding so you know exactly the correct process.
Edit:
Had to change that BeQuiet PSU as it has 2x12v Rails, best to have a single rail.
The Xeon does come with a cooler, but the Hyper 212 will be a lot quieter at high loads, so you could forgo the cooler till a point where you deem it necessary. That will give some more money for the keyboard and mouse in the short term.
dapperbandit
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Thanks. I was going to ask why you went for the Xeon... I was expecting everyone to suggest an i5. Is it to do with not overclocking?
Same chip slightly less Mhz
i5 4690 - 3.5/3.9Ghz ~£155
E3 1220 V3 - 3.1/3.5Ghz £150
Take your pick, for £5 may as well go 4690. Its more value with the i7/E3 1230 V3.
Fractal Design Core 1000 Case is another option too.
dapperbandit
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Okay, I'll have a look at what tweaks I could make.
So I am planning to construct a build around the i7-5930k and possibly the 880GTX. I kind of want to go balls to the wall. Do you think the added premium in price for this processor and the motherboard and DDR4 RAM is worth the cost if it will primarily be used for heavy gaming? I don't do any intensive video editing or 3D rendering or anything like that.
I would put my budget around $2000-$2250 not including monitors or peripherals. Does anyone want to either help me plan a build or try to talk me off this ledge? lol
I would put my budget around $2000-$2250 not including monitors or peripherals. Does anyone want to either help me plan a build or try to talk me off this ledge? lol
michaelius
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Wait for 29.08 and we should know more.
Nope won't be of any use for gaming. By the time I see hex cores becoming useful, there will be quad cores that outclass them. DDR4 another gimmick as of right now, there is plenty of bandwidth in dual channel 1866 CL10 that nothing is taking advantage of.
Go for a 4790K rig with dual 880's.
Woffls
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