Bucket-o-roadkill
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Hey guys. When getting a new PSU is there a way I should test it before hooking it up to my rig to ensure I don't kill my system if it's faulty? Or do you just connect it up and cross your fingers
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Inferno313
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What should it be set to?
Nostremitus
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Google the paperclip test.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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I was worried this would be suggested.. Haha. It seems a bit.. Primitive!? Do you guys actually do this!?
I need some help with picking out a new monitor.
I'm moving and leaving behind my 55" tv on which I had PC connected, but will bring my old 24" benq monitor which feels so small now but I'll get used to smaller screen, what always bothered me was the colors didn't look vibrant at all so I'm gonna just use it as 2nd monitor.
I was thinking about buying some TV but after researching decided on monitor. What I know is I want at least 24" but would prefer 27", not sure about 1440p, I think I want 120hz and IPS panel. I really want good looking colors, tired of washed out look on my monitor and using this new tv for past few months have been refreshing, but then again I barely gamed on it mostly movies and tv shows but huge difference there. 3D wouldn't hurt either but not required I guess, just got used to downloading anything 3D ever since I've got 3d capable tv last year.
Besides regular PC use and gaming on PC I also plan on using the monitor for ps3/360 and PS4 once I buy it next year, and of course to watch movies/tv shows which I probably do more than gaming at this point, but that might change.
So what are your recommendations? Price range, not sure, cheaper the better but wouldn't sacrifice quality for bit less $.
I'm moving and leaving behind my 55" tv on which I had PC connected, but will bring my old 24" benq monitor which feels so small now but I'll get used to smaller screen, what always bothered me was the colors didn't look vibrant at all so I'm gonna just use it as 2nd monitor.
I was thinking about buying some TV but after researching decided on monitor. What I know is I want at least 24" but would prefer 27", not sure about 1440p, I think I want 120hz and IPS panel. I really want good looking colors, tired of washed out look on my monitor and using this new tv for past few months have been refreshing, but then again I barely gamed on it mostly movies and tv shows but huge difference there. 3D wouldn't hurt either but not required I guess, just got used to downloading anything 3D ever since I've got 3d capable tv last year.
Besides regular PC use and gaming on PC I also plan on using the monitor for ps3/360 and PS4 once I buy it next year, and of course to watch movies/tv shows which I probably do more than gaming at this point, but that might change.
So what are your recommendations? Price range, not sure, cheaper the better but wouldn't sacrifice quality for bit less $.
Are you overclocked? I have the same cpu and running the stress test only pushed it to 41 degrees. Idle I run around 28-33 degrees, I am not overclocked however. Like The Llama said check the voltages.
Inferno313
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I'm not overclocked. I looked at my Bios settings and couldn't really make heads or tails of it. Everything was set to auto though. Do you have a guide on what I should look at? My Mobo is a Gigabyte, for the record.
Nostremitus
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It works.
The temps you listed above are totally normal, do not fret in the least bit. Those aren't high at all.
Also, the 4790K is basically overclocked to 4.4GHz out of the box, which is why you see temps in the 70s. Haswell gets hot.
You don't really need to worry about temps until you get in the mid-high 80s for the average of four cores.
I filled my first 5 water cooled builds by papercliping my PSU to get it to power the molex.
Inferno313
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One more question. I'm using my computer on a 1080p TV and for the most part everything looks real crisp. But certain things look really pixelated, for instance, my Spotify and Quicktime icons look like ass.
Is that just because those icons were made at such a low-res? I'm coming from Macland, so pardon my ignorance but I didn't see anything like that on my macbook.
Is that just because those icons were made at such a low-res? I'm coming from Macland, so pardon my ignorance but I didn't see anything like that on my macbook.
Is the TV big?
Inferno313
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32 Inches. I can provide a screen-cap. Give me one sec.
EDIT:
See, the Steam icon and and Chrome ones are crystal clear, while the Spotify and Logitech icons are assy.
Yeah, whoah, that's weird as hell. I have no idea what's up with that.32 Inches. I can provide a screen-cap. Give me one sec.
EDIT:
See, the Steam icon and and Chrome ones are crystal clear, while the Spotify and Logitech icons are assy.
Mine, for comparison:
I was thinking about picking up this guy to run my pump during filling. Wish it had a switch, but I might mod one in later.
CurlySaysX
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Hooooolllly!!! CRAPP!!
I just bought and installed a noctua NHU14S, and either the stock intel HSF is utter shit or Noctual know their shit.
Playing certain games would push my cpu to almost 70C, with the noctual the thing doesn't even hit 40C -- 35C is the highest I saw it at. I have my front case fan to speed up when the CPU hits 40C, and because it's not getting anywhere near 40C my GPU temps are getting a little high.
AMAZING.
WTF!!! shit is voodoo.
I just bought and installed a noctua NHU14S, and either the stock intel HSF is utter shit or Noctual know their shit.
Playing certain games would push my cpu to almost 70C, with the noctual the thing doesn't even hit 40C -- 35C is the highest I saw it at. I have my front case fan to speed up when the CPU hits 40C, and because it's not getting anywhere near 40C my GPU temps are getting a little high.
AMAZING.
WTF!!! shit is voodoo.
I use literally the same exact one. Works like a peach.
Alright, final (hopefully) FrozenPC list. I'm off to bed. I'll order everything in the morning if no one spots anything missing/any problems. The extra tube is because I couldn't decide between the two sizes and just decided to get both. I'll figure it out when it gets here.
Cannon Goose
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Are cheap(er) Korean monitors still a thing? I've been wanting to get a 1440p monitor for a while now and I came across this one.
It's almost $200 cheaper than the cheapest 1440p monitor I can find here in Australia, so to me that's pretty attractive! If that one is no good I'll happily take some recommendations.
It's almost $200 cheaper than the cheapest 1440p monitor I can find here in Australia, so to me that's pretty attractive! If that one is no good I'll happily take some recommendations.
Dries
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How would you explain that N-forced gets 41 degrees on load? Same CPU and both not overclocked. Seems like a huge difference to me. Only thing I can think of is that one has much better CPU cooling? Or different stress testing software.
@Inferno313
It is worth looking into setting your voltages manually. Basically, the only thing you'll need to be adjusting is your Vcore value. But that's a whole other story and involves some (trial and error) testing. It's your choice if you want to invest time in it. The outcome is an overall cooler CPU though.
They steal this stuff from sites like chiphell.
So it depends if you trust Chinese sites or not
lmao nice. What CPU?
I got a UH14S on my 4790K, it idles around 50C, but even under load (extended BF4 lol), it doesn't go over 60C. I'm confused at idle temps, (all this according to AI Suite 3). I have it on the "quiet" setting. Probably botched the heatsink install, kinda put paste, then put heatsink, then removed, then re-attached a bit later, so paste probably dried or something. xP
Hi peeps,
I have a few parts I want to recycle in a simple setup for some gaming (I deported much of the gaming onto PS4) but also some serious video editing.
I have an X4 955 BE that has been performing very well ever since I changed the stock heatsink for a CM 212 EVO. Since it's not worth much selling it, I want to keep it and try some o/c until it dies.
I also have a MA790XT UD4P but since I want a small tower (at least micro ATX), this will need to be changed. I already have the HDD, the SSD and the RAM.
For thr GPU, I had a 560 Ti that started overheating like crazy. I bought a Twin Turbo III but it didn't help. So I want cut the losses and just get a new card with even more CUDA cores.
Thanks !
I have a few parts I want to recycle in a simple setup for some gaming (I deported much of the gaming onto PS4) but also some serious video editing.
I have an X4 955 BE that has been performing very well ever since I changed the stock heatsink for a CM 212 EVO. Since it's not worth much selling it, I want to keep it and try some o/c until it dies.
I also have a MA790XT UD4P but since I want a small tower (at least micro ATX), this will need to be changed. I already have the HDD, the SSD and the RAM.
For thr GPU, I had a 560 Ti that started overheating like crazy. I bought a Twin Turbo III but it didn't help. So I want cut the losses and just get a new card with even more CUDA cores.
Thanks !
Mobo: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 is good matx for the price
GPU: 750Ti or above depending on budget
michaelius
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Nope - for desktop you can use any mix of displays you want. I have 1200p and 1080p display connected at the same time.
Inferno313
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Fixed my weird icon issue. My computer had icons, window and text size set to "large." Changing everything to small looks much more like how I expected everything to look.
FreddieQuell
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I've got a tech support question for you guys. My laptop's internet connection regularly goes to garbage around 8-9 pm. To the level where YouTube drops down to 144p, while in the morning/afternoon I can have two twitch source streams running at once.
The really confounding thing is that in the evening when my laptop becomes unusable I can stream video on my phone, which is running off the same WiFi, no problem.
Anyone have any ideas?
The really confounding thing is that in the evening when my laptop becomes unusable I can stream video on my phone, which is running off the same WiFi, no problem.
Anyone have any ideas?
Stab in the dark. It's possible your router has set up a QoS daily limit.
Log on to your wifi router and poke around.
Thanks for the mobo.
For the GPU, I can get my hands on a 670 with a twin Turbo III on it for 130e :
I just don't know what case can I take to make it fit (along with the "955 + 212EVO") and also how much Watts the SPU should be able to provide.
Do live you closely to other people who are also using WiFi? The first part makes it seem like you might be getting interference during the busy hours when everyone is using their internet. You could use some WiFi analyser to see if more people are on the same channel. There are phone apps that can do this too. It looks like this:
Let's say that yours is yellow, which is overlapped by teal, then you're better off switching it to channel 3 or 4. You can do this stuff by logging into the router.
The weird thing is that your phone seems to be working fine. Did you try updating the network card's drivers? Sometimes that may help when you're not getting a good signal.
FreddieQuell
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I'm looking again now, but I don't remember seeing anything like that in the settings.
Do live you closely to other people who are also using WiFi? The first part makes it seem like you might be getting interference during the busy hours when everyone is using their internet. You could use some WiFi analyser to see if more people are on the same channel. There are phone apps that can do this too. It looks like this:
Let's say that yours is yellow, which is overlapped by teal, then you're better off switching it to channel 3 or 4. You can do this stuff by logging into the router.
The weird thing is that your phone seems to be working fine. Did you try updating the network card's drivers? Sometimes that may help when you're not getting a good signal.
Yeah, I've been looking at that. First of all all 3 of the main channels are similarly full, I live in an apartment. Also I forgot to mention that I recently hooked up a powerline adapter, same exact performance/behavior on that. Network card drivers are also on their most recent version as of a week or two ago.
I'm looking at choosing a case and I like the look (and price and quietness) of this one, the Aerocool DS200:
I was planning to buy this motherboard+CPU and a GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 780 Ti WINDFORCE 3X OC graphics card (although I'm waiting to see the new Nvidia cards), with a 750W PSU. Would this case be able to fit those components and keep them sufficiently cool? There are reviews of the thermal performance here: http://www.kitguru.net/components/cases/leo-waldock/aerocool-dead-silence-ds200-review/6/ and here: http://www.play3r.net/reviews/cases/aerocool-ds200-chassis-review/7/ but I don't know how good/bad those results are or how close they would be to the temperatures using the components I'm looking at. Also, would I potentially be able to fit a second GPU in there later down the line, or is there not enough room? (I know one card should fit if I remove some of the drive cages, but I don't know if a second would).
Does anyone have any ideas about this? More generally, what should I be looking out for in terms of temperatures when reading case reviews? Some sites give temperature values, some give the change between ambient and load, some between idle and load, and they all use different components, coolers, fan speeds etc.
So yeah, it looks like my video card was the culprit so I'm now in the market for a new one!
What is good currently available (or upcoming since I can wait) sub-$300 replacement for a GTX 660 2GB?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
770 is still >$300 and is outperformed by the 280X. 285X should be coming soon, which will perform similarly to the 280X with an updated architecture and all of AMD's new features (TrueAudio, FreeSync, etc.) at $300. I'm doubting the new 970 will be sub $300, but the 770 might get a bit of price drop when the 970 is released.
CurlySaysX
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xeon 1231V3.
My idle temps haven't changed much. I was idling at 30C with the intel HSF, it's idling at 22C with the noctua.
I have the full speed mode enabled since my case fans are way louder than anything else on the pc.
The HSF is so easy to put in that if you think you've botched up the paste, it might be worth doing again.
Give me this. I'm all for running 1080p 60fps more efficiently and with less noise.
Basically. I want to throw this in my HTPC/Steambox build.
Yup me too!
Burgess_101
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Well I decided to overclock my CPU today as I never really had time to get round to it. For some reason it keeps reporting the wrong clock speed, this isn't anything to do with power profiles or any sort of speed boosting thing (as far as I can tell).
My i7 2700k sits at 4.1ghz idle then when I stress test it it lowers to default 3.5ghz but I have the multiplier set to 4.4ghz. What is going on? I'm stumped.
My i7 2700k sits at 4.1ghz idle then when I stress test it it lowers to default 3.5ghz but I have the multiplier set to 4.4ghz. What is going on? I'm stumped.
Generally all the reputable case manufacturers produce cases that dont suffer from any air flow issues. Therefore its not even needed to be concerned in this area. If your buying some cheap budget non-brand desktop case then you need to be worried, but you are buying something well above that. So the only things to look out for, is space efficiency, case layout, case cable management features and of course aesthetics. And you may also be concerned about the fan noise.
Did you set the Turbo multiplier to 44 for all cores? There is an option that lets you change each Turbo core individually, enable this, then you should be able to set 44 multi for all 4 cores.
And whats the temperatures like, possible overheating?
Use CPUz to read the clock speeds and use HWMonitor or Realtemp for CPU Core temps.
They steal this stuff from sites like chiphell.
So it depends if you trust Chinese sites or not
I need for it to be real because I want that 980m laptop.
Burgess_101
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I turned turbo off but ill try that, temps are fine as far as I can see, I have a custom watercooling loop.
Thats the problem, you overclock by Turbo on this platform. Enable Turbo and itll work as expected.
Burgess_101
Member
Well I enabled it and it is still playing up... I had turned it off before and overclocked fine with out it.
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