xBladeM6x
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I knew they were Corsair, but which type they were is what I wanted to know. OP should just post the whole build he has. :3
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I knew they were Corsair, but which type they were is what I wanted to know. OP should just post the whole build he has. :3
I think those are AF120's IIRC the SP have 7 thicker blades
Usually youd want SP on the rad but it honestly doesnt matter much if you bought a pack of them for example
Which fans are those? (Performance, Quiet or Static Pressure) also, which CPU cooler is that?
CPU fans: Corsair SP 120mm Quiet Edition
Case fans: Corsair AP 140mm Quiet Edition
As you can already tell, I prefer my PC to be almost silent.
TC McQueen
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He might be living in an area where it gets hot often. I replaced all the stock fans on my Haf 912 and installed new ones in every spot I could because I live in Florida. During the day most of the year, the sun is beating on my house like crazy and raises the temperature to 80+ degrees if the AC isn't allowed to kick in.
They still move a lot of air even set at near silent with a fan controller.
I also live in Florida, but have AC on 24/7.
Quick OC results doesn't look too great.
Running Prime95:
4.2GHz @ 1.150V hitting max 87C for 30 min.
4.3GHz @ 1.200V hitting 97C and turn off asap.
Looks like, I'll have stick to 4.2GHz or get a closed loop water cooler for faster speeds. Are they near silent these days?
Another negative, my old setup was doing 3 Raid setup (0,0,1). Even though the new MB has more Sata slots, it can only do 2 Raid setup. Went with Raid 0s. Guess, I am going to have to do Windows software raid 1.
xBladeM6x
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Even with the quiet edition fans, is it actually quiet? Also, does the CPU cooler work well with the Corsair fans over the Noctua?
I think they've discontinued the XFX Black Edition and replaced it with the XTR model using the same part number, hence the discrepancy. (why? who knows...)
The only reason I know this is because I've bought a XTR model recently, read reviews on it and saw on NCIX from customer comments that they've replaced the black edition with the XTR under the same item listing.
Check out some video reviews of those fans. Below 10V they are pretty damn silent. From what I've seen, the fans perform slightly worse than the comparable Noctua fans with better aesthetics and slightly lower noise.
With the case fans, I use a fan controller to slow them down to quiet. The Corsair quiet edition fans also come with a resistor cable to make the fans run slower = quieter.
As for the corsair CPU fans, I don't hear them unless they are kicking in which only really happens while OC testing. I am not sure if the Noctua fans are better since I went straight to using the Corsairs.
Temps seem really high. You sure you got a good mount? Perhaps increase fan speed? Perhaps some better fans for the cooler?
If the cooler isn't cutting it, then yeah, you will probably want something that can dissipate some serious heat. Swiftech H220X is the bee's knees if you're willing to pay for it.
That looks like a good one, but thinking better, a 32" would be a better suit. Do you know any with those characteristics that would be a good choice? Benq has the BL3200PT which seems great, but isn't available on any of the stores here.
I think it's the cooler. That thing's not made to go much over 250W if that.
Woffls
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Ugh, god damn eBuyer. They have some memory listed as being released on Friday but the pre-order button wasn't working, so I called them to sort it and apparently the Friday stock is already allocated and they won't be getting any until the end of the month.
I ordered my X99 components based on there actually being some availability. Hopefuly other sites are getting it in stock on the same day and actually have some. I guess I'm just in awe at how it can be so difficult to manufacture and stock some memory sticks. :\
[edit] Looks like G.Skill DDR4 is pretty difficult to get hold of. Pre-ordered some from Amazon to see what their automated stock email thing says.
I ordered my X99 components based on there actually being some availability. Hopefuly other sites are getting it in stock on the same day and actually have some. I guess I'm just in awe at how it can be so difficult to manufacture and stock some memory sticks. :\
[edit] Looks like G.Skill DDR4 is pretty difficult to get hold of. Pre-ordered some from Amazon to see what their automated stock email thing says.
michaelius
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Haswell-E release was pushed forward a bit so memory suppliers weren't ready. One of company reps on [H] suggest that situation will be much better at end of September.
neurosisxeno
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Short Answer: Cheap build quality.
Long Answer: They use a generic CWT design and a lot of fairly cheap Chinese parts. They are not the worst PSU's on the market by any means, but there is almost always a better option for a similar price.
Woffls
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I don't know how I've managed to do weeks of research about upgrading and not see this mentioned anywhere. I'm going to try and cancel all my orders and just wait for everyone to get their shit together.
[edit] Managed to cancel all of it. Thanks for the heads up.
I've ordered 16Gb of the 2400 G.Skill DDR4 from Amazon, so when that's back in stock I'll order the rest.
I didn't know 16:9 32" 1440p displays existed at all. Looks really good for your purposes. Can't you order online?
My 5930K is up and running. I got a little scared after first boot up and decided to update the bios. Update supposedly went fine and it wanted to reboot. After restart, blank screen with 60 error code. After trying countless reboots and removing hardware, nothing. Thinking, RMA time. Then, I notice this MB has the new ability to flash the bios without turning on the PC. Plug a USB with bios, hit Bios USB Flashback button, wait until done, power up and success. Haven't done any OC yet. At stock, idling 28C and Prime95 60C.
I like! That might have better cable management than mine.. maybe!
I'll have to check better.
Right now I'm reading some reviews on the Benq. I'm worried about the 12ms for gaming. I would go with that 27", but going from 32" to 27" wouldn't it be a big difference? I can see clearly from bed and the couch with my 32", but I'm not sure how it would be with 27".
I hate r/buildapc
Yeah why would you want to support the company that actually makes good products when you can give money to the one you hope to one day fix their shitty CPUs. You can become an investor with no return.
I hate r/buildapc
I mean, I actually kind of agree with him. I think buying stuff like Titan Z's, etc. is remarkably dumb. But it looks like they're talking about choosing AMD CPU's instead of Intel's, and that's pretty LOL.
We are (he's replying to me). He was trying to rationalise why he buys AMD CPUs and why he wouldn't buy Intel.
Full context here http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/co...sistently_downvoted_for/ckddoxy?context=10000
xBladeM6x
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michaelius
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I only wish those people would support AMD with their own cash and not fool other people into buying them.
And unfortunatly ignorant websites like Anandtech give them plenty of ammo with badly made cpu benches.
THE:MILKMAN
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Air 240 has a ~120mm limit? The EVO 212 is 159mm?
Intel owns the fabrication plants
michaelius
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AMD is on 32nm process and yet they aren't anywhere close to Sandy Bridge.
After reading that reddit context, I'm kinda rooting for him :/ he has no illusions about what he's getting for his money
It's a long sad story of AMD's foundry dreams, you can read it in Ars Technica
I thinkCalm Killer
In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
What video card/cards should I look at for a 4 monitor setup?
I would wait a week. Signs point to new nvidia cards being revealed next weekend.
But it's entirely stupid to understand that the product is worse and still continue to purchase it when a better option is available.
Bananajama
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So having sold my rig Z97 to go X99 I'm having second thoughts.
I'm going travelling for 6 months (at least - trying to get more time off from work) next Christmas and wondering if it's really worthwhile getting a rig which is going to sit unused for that time.
So I'm back to square one.
But with a new option on the cards. (or two)
Re-buy my Z97, i5 oc'ed rig with 280X GPU for £950
Go for H81, i3 4370, 285 GPU for £650
Or go without till I get back
Not helped by the fact
Dragon Age Inquisition is coming out - and I'm a firm believer it needs to be played on PC.
And I backed Pillars of Eternity....
Anyone care to throw there opinion into the ring on what I should do?
I'm going travelling for 6 months (at least - trying to get more time off from work) next Christmas and wondering if it's really worthwhile getting a rig which is going to sit unused for that time.
So I'm back to square one.
But with a new option on the cards. (or two)
Re-buy my Z97, i5 oc'ed rig with 280X GPU for £950
Go for H81, i3 4370, 285 GPU for £650
Or go without till I get back
Not helped by the fact
Dragon Age Inquisition is coming out - and I'm a firm believer it needs to be played on PC.
And I backed Pillars of Eternity....
Anyone care to throw there opinion into the ring on what I should do?
Nostremitus
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Not if you have a problem with a company's ethics, or decide that the better product isn't worth the added price to you. I agree, though, that those should be the talking points if someone likes AMD, they shouldn't claim they are just as good as Intel.
TheFNEffecT
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I forgot to check back in here to show what I picked up
xBladeM6x
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I forgot to check back in here to show what I picked up
What a peasant. Good luck even trying to play Ultima on that garbage.
Nice.
fifasnipe2224
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Looking to upgrade my GFs PC. How does this sound:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA 1150
Memory: Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SSD
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W ATX12V / EPS12V
She will be reusing:
Video Card: EVGA GTX 570
Case: Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Mid-Tower
1) Will that Power Supply work with her case? Its an old case with the Power Supply area being on the top of the case instead of below. Also no vent for the fan.
2) Is the PSU good enough for the video card?
3) How good is the Intel Core i5-4430 for gaming? Any other CPUs near its price range that I should consider?
4) Any other tweaks / parts I should consider?
CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA 1150
Memory: Corsair XMS 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SSD
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W ATX12V / EPS12V
She will be reusing:
Video Card: EVGA GTX 570
Case: Apevia X-Dreamer 3 Mid-Tower
1) Will that Power Supply work with her case? Its an old case with the Power Supply area being on the top of the case instead of below. Also no vent for the fan.
2) Is the PSU good enough for the video card?
3) How good is the Intel Core i5-4430 for gaming? Any other CPUs near its price range that I should consider?
4) Any other tweaks / parts I should consider?
Not picking on you at all. But, it would be really cool if we could avoid this line of vocabulary here.
Stop trying. I think the biggest issue is that most the folks there are really really young and don't get it. There's an intense combination of ego, self, and consumer purchases all wrapped up into one on Reddit's PC community. It's impossible to have a rational discussion about such things.I hate r/buildapc
Anandtech has an "AMD Center", and the only person who actually had something decent to say, Anand, has left. That place is now at Tom's level of quality. Which is to say, that it is lacking quality. I've had direct discussions with some editors there that have pretty much said, "yeah, I realize that this testing isn't very accurate, but to do it right was too much effort." Fuck that place. Anand, Tom's, and TekSyndicate all need to go away.
The thing is, is that they end up buying into poor testing data because it's confirmation bias for them. Then they end up giving bad consumer advice to all sorts of people. Then the trend continues.
If you want to buy their products, fine, go for it. Buy a worse CPU that gives you a stuttery experience. But shut the fuck up about it. There's literally no reason to evangelize that position.
Looks good. I'd consider the bump up to the 4460. Clock speed/IPC is still king for 99% of games. I'd maybe think about replacing the case, but that's more of a luxury purchase that isn't necessary if it's not a big deal for her.
You could probably avoid the CPU cooler, unless you're buying it specifically to cut down on the noise of the stock cooler.
Sir Abacus
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125mm. But yes, the EVO 212 is way too tall for an Air 240.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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Right, can someone help me out here, I've ordered a PSU from Scan, they've sent me the wrong one. I want to send it back and either get a refund or the proper thing I ordered. How can I do this? I've contacted them via the customer service and haven't heard anything back. I can't ring them at the moment as I'm working through the day. Why the hell aren't they getting back to me? I'm not keeping an inferior product just because they've fucked up and sent me something wrong.
fifasnipe2224
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Hows about an i5-4570 3.2 and I drop the CPU cooler?
The difference between the two is negligible, not really worth it there.
Calm Killer
In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
Sorry, I should have be more specific. What ATI/Radeon card should I look at for 4 monitors.
xBladeM6x
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Yeah, I know. Like I said, not picking. You can disregard me too, considering I'm not a mod. Avoiding that sort of thing is one of the things that makes the GAF PC Community pretty neat, IMO.I was joking, but alrighty. ¯\_(ツ
NickatNite
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Today I recive 2 corsair quiet case fans. However my motherboard only has 1 4 pin port. Is it safe to plug a 4 pin case fan into a 3 pin slot?
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